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Horse nappies in Killarney [Merged]

  • 14-07-2009 03:00PM
    #1
    mobius42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭


    First we have a shower of morons worshipping a tree stump in Limerick and now this:http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0714/killarney.html
    Pickets have now been placed on the entrances to Killarney National Park after jarveys were banned from the area in a row over horse dung.
    Jarveys, who operate jaunting cars Co Kerry, have refused to use so-called dung-catching devices on their horses.
    The National Parks and Wildlife Service - which manages the park - has told the jarveys that the soiling of roads and pathways by their horses is no longer acceptable, but the Jarveys are refusing to use the devices.
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    The NPWS has offered to pay for the devices, but the jarveys claim they are unsafe and dangerous.
    45 jarveys have licences from the NPWS to operate 66 horse-drawn jaunting cars in Killarney National Park.
    They offer tours of Muckross, Torc and Ross Island on 15km of internal roads and paths to almost 1m people who visit the park every year.
    But the soiling of those roads and pathways by the jarveys' horses has consistently been a contentious issue.
    After 18 months of consultations and negotiations, the NPWS closed the jaunting car entrances to the park at 6am this morning.
    The parks service says the decision was taken as none of the jaunting cars hold a valid permit which requires the use of dung catchers to operate within the park.
    They say jarveys will be banned until they sign up to using the dung-catching devices.
    Killarney National Park remains open to the public.

    They're striking because they don't want to clean up their horse's ****. Really?! This is the most stupid dispute I've ever heard.


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Comments

  • #2
    genericguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Post-natal abortions FTW!!


  • #3
    Fink Goddie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    What a load of horse sh1t!!!


  • #4
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I seen something on the news a few weeks ago about this.

    They were asking tourists in the park whether or not the sh!t was off-putting and most said no.

    Its health & safety gone mad

    ...diapers on horses...GTFO!


  • #5
    delop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭delop


    Would be easier to start with a list of 'whats right with the country'

    thinking.....:confused:


  • #6
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    They could use a jarvey's head as a butt-plug.


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  • #7
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Its the banks fault!!!!!!!11


  • #8
    That_Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    What a load of TURD Ferguson


  • #9
    PinkTulips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭PinkTulips


    surely the manure is good for the national park... why shoudl the horses have to be attached to a device that's potentially unsafe.

    here's an idea.... could the NPWS not create employment by hiring someone to sweep the manure for area where it could be a potential hazard ie, where people walk, onto the grass where it will benefit the park by enriching the soil?

    stupid fight fgs


  • #10
    delop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭delop


    I grew up near killarney, and what i dont get is its been that for yrs, to be fair though it can get very messy if it dont rain in a few days, not usually a problem in kerry, and I grew up on a farm so maybe it didnt seem too bad to me

    However things are changing, One of the Department of Justice staff members called over to my dad a few yrs ago when they moved to kerry and asked my dad to stop spreading slurry, She said it was smelly.... :-)


  • #11
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Why can't those damned horses use toilets like a civilized human being? Birds **** in the air you know, it's disgusting. Nature is disgusting, it should be wiped out immediately!


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  • #12
    wudangclan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Nature is disgusting, it should be wiped out immediately!

    exactly!!
    what has nature ever done for us??


  • #13
    Kintarō Hattori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Quite rediculous alright. Horses poo.......... big deal. I was there a few months ago and didn't noticed an abundence of poo.

    Find something to really cause a stink* about.





    *Ho Ho Ho.


  • #14
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    wudangclan wrote: »
    exactly!!
    what has nature ever done for us??
    Not a damn thing. I get all my food from the supermarket. Whats the point in cows and sheep using up valuable real estate when we can get all the meat we want in Tesco?


  • #15
    Hells Belle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Hells Belle


    I went cycling through the park last year and while the horse poo/smell didn't really bother me the huge horse flys took lumps out of me. They seemed to follow you for a while just after you passed a pile of poo, which would lead me to logically think that the turds attracted them.....still though could they not just hire someone to go around twice a day and clear it up, make manure out of it and sell it, its not that hard to see really, feckin men. Wimmin would have sorted that out years ago.:D


  • #16
    Hells Belle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Hells Belle


    PinkTulips sorry didn't see your reply, great wimmin think alike lol


  • #17
    Interceptor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Interceptor


    Hells Belle wrote: »
    great wimmin think alike lol

    The wimmin of Killarney should volunteer to clean the roads. Wimmins are great for cleaning and stuff...

    'cptr


  • #18
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Hells Belle wrote: »
    its not that hard to see really, feckin men. Wimmin would have sorted that out years ago.:D
    No they wouldn't. They'd come up with a plan and then get the men to carry it out. The men would put it on the long finger leaving us in the same predicament we're now in. Women only add unnecessary bureaucracy.


  • #19
    yerayeah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 804 ✭✭✭yerayeah


    Got my jeans covered in sh1t the last time I was there but this is a bit ridiculous, tis only horsesh1t...


  • #20
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    There's a very simple solution to all this.

    Let the horses shíte all they like but make the jarvey clean it up.

    What these dudes want is the TAXPAYER to clean up after their animals, that's what they want.

    If that is not practical employ someone to do the job and charge the jarveys as part of a permit-no pay-no park.

    That's what's wrong with a lot of this country, people want others to clean up after them for free.

    Wise up people,we have been conned for long enough.


  • #21
    CutzEr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭CutzEr


    Horse-drawn carts were banned from one of Ireland's most famous national parks Tuesday in an escalation of a long-running row about their refusal to use "nappies" to deal with the horse dung.

    The National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS) said it had "taken action to refuse entry to jaunting car operators" to the Killarney national park in the south west unless they have "the required dung catcher device".

    Operated by so-called "jarveys", some 66 traditional carts, known as jaunting cars, carry tourists along 15 kilometres of internal roads within the picture-postcard park.

    "An unfortunate consequence of such a high volume of horses frequenting the park is that the roadways are consistently fouled with horse dung, and has for a long time been a concern from the point of view of environmental, health and safety, aesthetic and tourism grounds," the NPWS said.

    It said the majority of the more than a million visitors to the park each year walked the roads and it had received numerous complaints about the horse dung.

    Over the years there have been a number of unsuccessful attempts to get the jarveys to use "equine sanitary devices" in the Killarney area.

    The jarveys resisted, claiming the dung catchers will unbalance the carriages and the horses.

    However, the NPWS, which is part of the environment ministry, says they are "in widespread usage internationally, from Vienna to Vancouver".

    "It is clear, therefore, that these devices do work and are safe to use," it said.

    "Although the dung catcher is attached to the car and not to the horse, jarveys have repeatedly signalled their complete opposition to the new devices but have never demonstrated where they perceive the problems to lie."

    The service emphasised its "desire to avoid conflict" but said it had been compelled to ban the jaunting cars as "a very last resort".

    source


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  • #22
    galwayrush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    More bureaucratic sh1t.


  • #23
    Riamfada
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Yes the environmentalists are now turning their sights upon Mother Nature. That bitch is going to pay.


  • #24
    yerayeah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 804 ✭✭✭yerayeah


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055620805


  • #25
    jumpguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    If you've ever actually had to walk/cycle to Killarney National Park, you'd know why the dung-catchers are wanted. I was there a few days before this whole idea got to the news and the roads are nearly impassable with shít. It's extremely unhygienic, especially if you have young kids around playing ball, , or a bike (you don't want wet shít all over your back) etc and imo should be better in the 21st century.


  • #26
    Klingon Hamlet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭Klingon Hamlet


    jumpguy wrote: »
    If you've ever actually had to walk/cycle to Killarney National Park, you'd know why the dung-catchers are wanted. I was there a few days before this whole idea got to the news and the roads are nearly impassable with shít. It's extremely unhygienic, especially if you have young kids around playing ball, , or a bike (you don't want wet shít all over your back) etc and imo should be better in the 21st century.

    I agree. I visited the park for the first time a few weeks back and while I thought it was gorgeous, my stomach turned when I saw literally mountains of dung deposited along the roads, it was covered in it. Fair play to them for cracking down.


  • #27
    Joe Cool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭Joe Cool


    Bag it and bin it.


  • #28
    Klingon Hamlet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭Klingon Hamlet


    Joe Cool wrote: »
    Bag it and bin it.

    They should, yeah, but they don't. It's disgusting.


  • #29
    Joe Cool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭Joe Cool


    Klingon Hamlet wrote: »
    They should, yeah, but they don't. It's disgusting.

    Shovel it, bag it and bin it???

    If they're gonna nappy (yes, it's a verb) horses they should do it to dogs too. Cats can have free reign as it's the least trodden on of all the domestic pet's fecal leavings, bar fish I guess


  • #30
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I heard they are going to issue nappies to all the deer in the Phoenix park.


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  • #31
    Joe Cool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭Joe Cool


    Terry wrote: »
    I heard they are going to issue nappies to all the deer in the Phoenix park.

    Oh dear


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