Post Man shot with air rifle in Finglas

conor-mr2 · 14-07-2009 04:25PM

Doc!!!

Its AH!

Expect the comments.

Now how about those feckin green recycling centres which are an utter rip-off

Degsy · 14-07-2009 04:32PM

TheDoc wrote: »

They are toys, theres no denying that.

Do you know what it takes to get a firearms license, especially now? Its a very large investment of time,effort and money. ?

Yes,a licenec for a shotgun is 25 euros and a rifle is 37 euros per year..hardly a massive investment now is it?

TheDoc wrote: »

The only "non" realistic operations are the internal operations along with materials used.

An m4 loads like an m4, fire selector is the same, cocking level, bolt release, stock adjustment and the likes.

So its just like the real thing except it doesnt actually fire ammunition in the way a firearm does.Its a toy that fires little plastic beads a very short distance and you may convince yourself in your mind that you're holding a real weapon but you're not.
I saw a pic of an airsof guy holding what looked like a Barret .50..very impressive i says..so what does it fire? Er,tiny 6mm plastic beads,NOT The .50 BMG the barret can score a headshot 1km away with.
Do you see what i'm saying?
You pretend they're guns and talk about specifications and all that nonsense but they are TOYS.
Its

José Alaninho · 14-07-2009 04:44PM

I own both airsoft and real guns Degsy, and yes, it's not all that difficult to get a license for the real deal if you follow the proper procedures.

But airsoft is a sport just like any other; what do you give a f*ck what we do on our own time? Are we harming you with our bit of weekend fun? No.

So we "play soldiers" on the weekends, and we have a laugh, and we meet friendly, interesting people, and generally have the craic. What f*cking business of that is yours? Grow up, move on, live and let live.

TheDoc · 14-07-2009 04:49PM

I cannot get a firearm license because my local super does not want to give me one.

I want one for blank firing western era colt walker pistols and a winchester.

I get fobbed of with excuses and ****e every which week.

So its not easy for me, I'm told I need this and that safe and the likes.

Its definitely not a big investment since i drop ridic money on Airsoft, but the effort is not worth it, since they will not give one to me

Anyway I'm leaving this topic, enjoy

Degsy · 14-07-2009 04:50PM

José Alaninho wrote: »

I own both airsoft and real guns Degsy, and yes, it's not all that difficult to get a license for the real deal if you follow the proper procedures.

But airsoft is a sport just like any other; what do you give a f*ck what we do on our own time? Are we harming you with our bit of weekend fun? No.

So we "play soldiers" on the weekends, and we have a laugh, and we meet friendly, interesting people, and generally have the craic. What f*cking business of that is yours? Grow up, move on, live and let live.

Hmm,how can i put this..i dont like airsofters?
Talking about this gun and that gun as if its the real thing when its a toy.

I suppose i think its a bit sad really,not so much the skirmishing itself but the nerdy-obsessive way some of them spend a fortune on "upgrading" thier toy guns and consider themselves to be experts on firearms despite never having held one.
Just my two cents worth.

PrivateEye · 14-07-2009 04:55PM

My Dads in the DFB and tells me they often feel the exact same way as this poor postie. Sadly, there's nothing you can do about the filth you encounter. The saddest part is that unlike gas bills, you can't turn around from gas fires. Thus, you sometimes have to drive into Fallujah and hope for the best. Pellet guns when you're actually fighting a very real fire is taking the piss at best.....

Odysseus · 14-07-2009 04:59PM

TheDoc wrote: »

I cannot get a firearm license because my local super does not want to give me one.

I want one for blank firing western era colt walker pistols and a winchester.

I get fobbed of with excuses and ****e every which week.

So its not easy for me, I'm told I need this and that safe and the likes.

Its definitely not a big investment since i drop ridic money on Airsoft, but the effort is not worth it, since they will not give one to me

Anyway I'm leaving this topic, enjoy

But if you keep at it you should get, I have an application in at the moment, its been passed by the Super, but a few things are holding it up. FO is on leave, I just got the gun safe on Saturday. It was 190e, an added expense I grant you, but once you get it you have it.

Now that they have made me get on, I plan to plod along and fill it up now. It will hold 3 rifles or shoutguns so I may as well use the space:) [As long as I keep them happy] I know there are alot of hoops to jump through, but if you do what they want its harder to refuse the application.

It differs from location to location but there should be not need to get the safe until the application has been passed. I was told at the start if it was passed I would need a safe, I agreed to do so. I checked last week and was told it was passed with a comment that the safe needed to be inspected but the licence was to be issued.

Just keep at them and jump through the hoops as required.

José Alaninho · 14-07-2009 05:13PM

Degsy wrote: »

Hmm,how can i put this..i dont like airsofters?
Talking about this gun and that gun as if its the real thing when its a toy.

I suppose i think its a bit sad really,not so much the skirmishing itself but the nerdy-obsessive way some of them spend a fortune on "upgrading" thier toy guns and consider themselves to be experts on firearms despite never having held one.
Just my two cents worth.

That's your opinion then man!

I can understand that the whole 'gucci' factor (upgrading what are essentially toys with sometimes hundreds of euro worth of extras) would annoy you; it sometimes annoys me. But hey, live and let live. I myself play for the excercise, the craic, the tactics, and I do it all with a bog standard cheapo AEG. And I'm happy.

But, of course, I'll far more readily head out to the clay field with my shotgun or onto the range with the rifle

Niall Keane · 14-07-2009 05:16PM

just heard that the kid was actually aiming at a dog chasing the post man..... unfortunate?

José Alaninho · 14-07-2009 05:22PM

Niall Keane wrote: »

just heard that the kid was actually aiming at a dog chasing the post man..... unfortunate?

Shooting a dog with an air rifle? WTF? :mad: No damn excuse!

ProjectColossus · 14-07-2009 05:25PM

Niall Keane wrote: »

just heard that the kid was actually aiming at a dog chasing the post man..... unfortunate?

Aiming at a dog? Little bastard. Postie's clothes get penetrated and the shot gets under his skin, imagine the damage it would have done to a dog. Shooter would be well aware how powerful the gun is. We need some proper vigilante style justice here.

weeder · 14-07-2009 05:35PM

Degsy wrote: »

Yes,a licenec for a shotgun is 25 euros and a rifle is 37 euros per year..hardly a massive investment now is it?

and a gunsafe, and a monitored alarm and a club membership and whatever other hoops the supernintendo decides you need to jump through

Degsy wrote: »

So its just like the real thing except it doesnt actually fire ammunition in the way a firearm does.Its a toy that fires little plastic beads a very short distance and you may convince yourself in your mind that you're holding a real weapon but you're not.
I saw a pic of an airsof guy holding what looked like a Barret .50..very impressive i says..so what does it fire? Er,tiny 6mm plastic beads,NOT The .50 BMG the barret can score a headshot 1km away with.
Do you see what i'm saying?

ok then, you go and get a license for a barret and import one. while you at it try and get a license for any fully automatic assault rifle or even there semi automatic counterparts,you cant do it,

I play airsoft because its a fun game,because i will probabaly never have a chance to fire the real version of my toys

marco murphy · 14-07-2009 05:37PM

weeder wrote: »

and a gunsafe, and a monitored alarm and a club membership and whatever other hoops the supernintendo decides you need to jump through

ok then, you go and get a license for a barret and import one. while you at it try and get a license for any fully automatic assault rifle or even there semi automatic counterparts,you cant do it,

I play airsoft because its a fun game,because i will probabaly never have a chance to fire the real version of my toys

Aye good luck in importing a light fifty :pac:

Jonty · 14-07-2009 05:48PM

TheDoc wrote: »

They are toys, theres no denying that.

Do you know what it takes to get a firearms license, especially now? Its a very large investment of time,effort and money.

The only "non" realistic operations are the internal operations along with materials used.

An m4 loads like an m4, fire selector is the same, cocking level, bolt release, stock adjustment and the likes.

The guys who set of on thier skirmishes at the weekends are no different to a bunch of three-year-olds playing cowboys and indians except the kids will probably grow out of it.

Your actually not adding weight to your comment....

So anyone that plays video games are just big kids, like **** sake get over it?

I guess paintball is cool though? Because you can go with "the lads" and be sound?

I used to play paintball too. Airsoft is just better for me because there is more tactical play, team work and you can kit out in what looks like a solider.

Its toy soldiers for adults yeah, so what. You cant shoot real guns at each other, sorry but i dont find shooting targets fun.

Atleast with airsoft i have a collection of great looking "toys" that at the weekend i can shoot people safely and in a controlled enviroment

Care to make anymore stupid comments?

I've a comment. Its waltering at its best. See below for what waltering is all about:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Walts

Degsy · 14-07-2009 06:03PM

Jonty wrote: »

I've a comment. Its waltering at its best. See below for what waltering is all about:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Walts

+1.

The secret life of nerds,pretending to be soldiers.

seanybiker · 14-07-2009 06:09PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I reckon someone doesn't like getting household bills delivered to them.

Nobody likes getting household bills

mle1324 · 14-07-2009 06:10PM

Degsy wrote: »

+1.

The secret life of nerds,pretending to be soldiers.

all thats just bull****.
And again this is AH,the forum where people havent got a clue:mad:.

Degsy · 14-07-2009 06:27PM

mle1324 wrote: »

forum where people havent got a clue:mad:.

Perhaps you should stay in airsoft..the forum where people dont have a gun.

mle1324 · 14-07-2009 06:35PM

Degsy wrote: »

Perhaps you should stay in airsoft..the forum where people dont have a gun.

that statement just doesnt make any sense what so ever,but all of the people in this thread who have being criticizing Airsoft need to understand that the postman was shot with a Airgun not a Airsoft Gun,two different things!

TPD · 14-07-2009 06:52PM

As much as I hope they catch and punish the kid, I think this being in the public eye for days is ridiculous. I'm just after a debate with my dad about it, and he says I dont understand the consequences, that the postman could have died had he been shot in the eye/temple etc.

My stance is this: He wasnt. He was shot in the back, and it was painless enough that he didn't notice until he reached his post office again.

Why is this on the news? Bring it up at a town meeting if you want to catch the kid. Nobody outside the immediate locale will have any info anyway.

To top it off, the next story was about them American couchsurfers finally being allowed back. They used fcuking comedy sound effects when showing the journey of the plane. THIS IS THE NEWS, NOT ENTERTAINMENT! I'm really starting to hate RTE.

Sir Molle · 14-07-2009 06:58PM

People who say there's a difference between airsoft guns and airguns are simply splitting hairs. Airsoft weapons should be banned because they're dangerous in the wrong hands.

Nobody in this country needs to have a weapon readily available to them like that.

ScumLord · 14-07-2009 06:59PM

Degsy wrote: »

Actually mea culpa..i assumed for some reason it was a pistol but i'm probably wrong.
A pistol wont penetrate clothes unless you're standing a couple of feet away in which case the postie wouldve seen the kid,you could probably break the skin with a rifle fro 30 or so feet.
Anyway,kids running around thinking they can do this shiit is unnaceptable and i hope the little bollox is caught.

Excuse me sir, I'm very sorry to bother you again, I won't take a minute of your time. You say you assumed the assailant used a pistol.

But you've obviously had some experience with these weapons because you also say, let me check my notes here. Yes you said "A pistol wont penetrate clothes unless you're standing a couple of feet away". Now my boys in the lab checked this out they have these tests they can run to test the power of these......

Look just admit you did it, we can go back and over for the next 40 minutes but we all know how this is going to turn out Colombo always gets his man.

http://hatefilledjazzvampire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/peter_falk_as_columbo.jpg

Collie D · 14-07-2009 07:05PM

Niall Keane wrote: »

Swords and guns being perceived as people killers are always on the table for getting banned, where as 9 inch laser sharpened carving knives designed so that even a child would be able to have enough force to puncture a skull are on sale in every home ware store.

Guns and swords have a sole purpose. Carving knives are intended to be used in the kitchen. See the post about hurleys.

TPD · 14-07-2009 07:06PM

Sir Molle wrote: »

People who say there's a difference between airsoft guns and airguns are simply splitting hairs. Airsoft weapons should be banned because they're dangerous in the wrong hands.

Nobody in this country needs to have a weapon readily available to them like that.

Sure, the difference between dangerous and annoying is just splitting hairs. One type will lodge the projectile under your skin after going through your clothes. The other will more than likely be carried away by the wind, but if it's close enough to actually hit you, might cause about a minute of pain, equal to stubbing your toe.

Spetzcong · 14-07-2009 07:24PM

Degsy wrote: »

+1.

The secret life of nerds,pretending to be soldiers.

I'm currently in training for the army and I play airsoft, I also know of a large number of current serving soldiers and former soldiers who play it. So yeah there are a load of walter mittys who play, there are also a lot of real soldiers who play it.

I also find it comical that anyone with a post count in excess of 7,000 on boards.ie would have the cheek to accuse someone else of being a nerd. Perhaps you should go outside more, or is going outside a bit too "nerdy" for you?

mle1324 · 14-07-2009 07:26PM

Spetzcong wrote: »

I'm currently in training for the army and I play airsoft, I also know of a large number of current serving soldiers and former soldiers who play it. So yeah there are a load of walter mittys who play, there are also a lot of real soldiers who play it.

I also find it comical that anyone with a post count in excess of 7,000 on boards.ie would have the cheek to accuse someone else of being a nerd. Perhaps you should go outside more, or is going outside a bit too "nerdy" for you?

You couldent put it any better,well said:)

mle1324 · 14-07-2009 07:31PM

Sir Molle wrote: »

People who say there's a difference between airsoft guns and airguns are simply splitting hairs. Airsoft weapons should be banned because they're dangerous in the wrong hands.

Nobody in this country needs to have a weapon readily available to them like that.

YOU also need to realise that airsoft is the fastest growing sports in Ireland and is something that would pump alot of money into this country as people inculding myself do spend a fortune on the sport!

realismpol · 14-07-2009 07:43PM

this is an air/pellet gun not an airsoft gun. Anyone who has played airsoft knows that its harmless and cannot even penetrate the eyeball just to clear it up. You know its called 'AIR SOFT' for a a reason. They aren't dangerous in the wrong hands because they are harmless.

As much as someone may try you can't hurt a person with them. You'd be better off taking them and beating someone over the head with them because it would have more impact frankly. And lets not get involved in the whole if used in robbery debate.The fact of the matter is they cannot hurt people.

An airgun/pellet gun (what was used on the postal worker) on the other hand, thats a dangerous item in the wrong hands and can actually kill people. Im guessing from some of the comments here some people won't even bother to educate themselves on the differences. Ahhh ignorance is bliss.

The simple fact of the matter is any idiot that takes a shot at a postal worker out doing his job with a pellet gun has something seriously wrong with them. I think thats the real issue.

ScumLord · 14-07-2009 07:46PM

mle1324 wrote: »

YOU also need to realise that airsoft is the fastest growing sports in Ireland and is something that would pump alot of money into this country as people inculding myself do spend a fortune on the sport!

How much of that fortune is going to China though.

mink_man · 14-07-2009 07:56PM

good for him!

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