Gun Crime

Volvoboy · 18-06-2009 02:27AM #1

Another young fella shot dead tonite;

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0617/coolock.html

Kinda makes ya wonder what kinda place Ireland will be like in a few more years.

poisonated · 18-06-2009 02:33AM

Im not trying to be prejudiced here or anything but... it always seems to happen in the same areas...maybe Im wrong but this isnt the first time it has happened in this area is it??

Sharpshooter · 18-06-2009 02:34AM

Can't watch the clip as I don't have Real Player but Coolock is not too far from where I am, and it seems like all we are hearing about is stabbings and shootings and rapes.:(
I seriously worry for the kids of today as most of them don't stand a chance.

Volvoboy · 18-06-2009 02:37AM

poisonated wrote: »

Im not trying to be prejudiced here or anything but... it always seems to happen in the same areas...maybe Im wrong but this isnt the first time it has happened in this area is it??

I live less than a half a mile from where the shooting took place, i dont think you can call into question certain areas in being trouble zones, shootings happen all over now.

It's a daily occourance.

admiralofthefleet · 18-06-2009 02:38AM

its a sad fact of life that unfortunetly, we have to live with. there will always be criminals and gun crime will always happen north, south, east and west

Saibh · 18-06-2009 02:39AM

The 15th gangland killing according to the news report, probably won't be the last.

poisonated · 18-06-2009 02:44AM

Volvoboy wrote: »

I live less than a half a mile from where the shooting took place, i dont think you can call into question certain areas in being trouble zones, shootings happen all over now.

It's a daily occourance.

yeah I suppose that is true its like people being racist towards an entire race because because they have met one b_astard from that country...thats one out of about 10 million!
you cant judge the entire population becaus of one bad egg!

SoupyNorman · 18-06-2009 02:46AM

Once they don't shoot me and 'most' boards users then I dont care who gets shot.

Volvoboy · 18-06-2009 02:47AM

poisonated wrote: »

yeah I suppose that is true its like people being racist towards an entire race because because they have met one b_astard from that country...thats one out of about 10 million!
you cant judge the entire population becaus of one bad egg!

Good man.

utick · 18-06-2009 02:48AM

mureders have always happened, and gangland mureders are the type of murders i least worry about, usually its just scum getting a death sentance the justcie system should of given them in the first place

Sharpshooter · 18-06-2009 02:49AM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Once they don't shoot me and 'most' boards users then I dont care who gets shot.

AHs reality bites.:pac:

SoupyNorman · 18-06-2009 02:52AM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

AHs reality bites.:pac:

Well thats the nitty gritty of the modern world we live in...

/goes back to reading Polly Clarkes latest.

Sharpshooter · 18-06-2009 02:54AM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Well thats the nitty gritty of the modern world we live in...

Unfortunately you are right.

Guy:Incognito · 18-06-2009 03:19AM

My only issue is that they waste Garda time trying to solves these victimless "crimes". Not to mention the waste of ambulance and hospital staff.

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

Merch · 18-06-2009 03:23AM

Stekelly wrote: »

My only issue is that they waste Garda time trying to solves these victimless "crimes". Not to mention the waste of ambulance and hospital staff.

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

Jeeez??

Sharpshooter · 18-06-2009 03:29AM

Stekelly wrote: »

My only issue is that they waste Garda time trying to solves these victimless "crimes". Not to mention the waste of ambulance and hospital staff.

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

It usually does come to light that it was tit for tat so in those instances I fully agree with you.

Guy:Incognito · 18-06-2009 03:30AM

Merch wrote: »

Jeeez??

How many people would choose to keep spending money on Gards to investing these incidents and hospitals to pronounce them/fix them if they could put the money directly into reopening the ward in Crumlin for instance? Or oipenin a whole new hospital?

SoupyNorman · 18-06-2009 03:31AM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

It usually does come to light that it was tit for tat so in those instances I fully agree with you.

I also fully agree when its Tit for Tit.

Manic Moran · 18-06-2009 04:03AM

Stekelly wrote: »

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

That, too, would be a waste.

There's this new company opening up called "Soylent". I hear they might be able to help out.

NTM

joey54 · 18-06-2009 08:40AM

The scary thing about gun crime today is that they don't care when and where they do it. It doesn't have to be dark for them to strike, for instance last night it was still bright. It's only a matter of time before an innocent person gets caught up in it again.

gurramok · 18-06-2009 08:41AM

Stekelly wrote: »

How many people would choose to keep spending money on Gards to investing these incidents and hospitals to pronounce them/fix them if they could put the money directly into reopening the ward in Crumlin for instance? Or oipenin a whole new hospital?

They have before shot dead inncocent people who got in their way so they must be caught.

joey54 · 18-06-2009 11:13AM

gurramok wrote: »

They have before shot dead inncocent people who got in their way so they must be caught.

And its only a matter of time before it happens again. It truly is shocking, they have no fear of anyone or anything. They do what they like and answer to no one. It is a worrying state of affairs and sadly I think it is only a matter of time til we have to arm Gardai.

Merch · 18-06-2009 11:22AM

Stekelly wrote: »

How many people would choose to keep spending money on Gards to investing these incidents and hospitals to pronounce them/fix them if they could put the money directly into reopening the ward in Crumlin for instance? Or oipenin a whole new hospital?

I get your point but innocent people have been shot too and even if the person shot is scum, to an extent he and his/her family (usually a his) are victims. There isnt and shouldnt be different tiers for different people, maybe the gardai will find something, the family will see this and the community might turn against these people, if they are left to rot (not literally) only resentment can set in, or further resentment.
I have a lot of gripes with the gardai but its really down to our crappy politicians and what we are willing to spend to imprison (for long sentences)and try rehabilitate them if they are dangerous or a more finacially and beneficial system for those that aren't dangerous, not just murder, but burglary.

As for funds spent somewhere and not another place, thats a complicated issue.
I dont care if its scum thats shot really, but justice has to be fair and seen to be fair, I also think its should be tougher, tough buit fair.

Merch · 18-06-2009 11:33AM

joey54 wrote: »

And its only a matter of time before it happens again. It truly is shocking, they have no fear of anyone or anything. They do what they like and answer to no one. It is a worrying state of affairs and sadly I think it is only a matter of time til we have to arm Gardai.

I think be careful of knee jerk reactions, there should be armed compnents of the Gardai, but not all I think.

The training should be given to all, perhaps in safety with firearms so they are familiar with unloading and making a weapon safe. In a real system the ongoing training, costs and maintenance of a system that is not open to fault could be money spent elsewhere in the gardai.
If gardai management cant manage to keep the cars in a good state or at least without buying brand new vehicles all the time,why would we move on to guns?

biko · 18-06-2009 11:46AM

Volvoboy wrote: »

Kinda makes ya wonder what kinda place Ireland Dublin/Limerick will be like in a few more years.

Fortunately it's restricted to certain cities, and will remain so I hope.

He was reportedly known to gardaí as being involved in drugs and gun crime. Mr Joyce was named in the High Court earlier this year by the head of the Criminal Assets Bureau as a member of a well organised north Dublin drug trafficking gang.

Vegeta · 18-06-2009 11:52AM

Magnus wrote: »

Fortunately it's restricted to certain cities, and will remain so I hope.

He was reportedly known to gardaí as being involved in drugs and gun crime. Mr Joyce was named in the High Court earlier this year by the head of the Criminal Assets Bureau as a member of a well organised north Dublin drug trafficking gang.

Yeah in Galway you only have to worry about being raped days after you get into the country or being killed and left in a freezer

mickydoomsux · 18-06-2009 11:59AM

Meh. One more scumbag dead, good.

GlindaGale · 18-06-2009 12:06PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Meh. One more scumbag dead, good.

I live right around the corner from where this took place and was passing by as the young man's mother ran screaming from the house and collapsed on the ground. the poor woman was understandably distraught.It was the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen, and I've been very shaken and upset about it since.

This young man was somebodies son and you are a disgrace for being so presumptious and callous.

I am galled at your lack of sympathy for his family and friends.

Mizu_Ger · 18-06-2009 12:15PM

Anybody who buys drugs, no matter how harmless they think it is, or dodgy cigarettes are contributing to all this.

Dyr · 18-06-2009 12:19PM

joey54 wrote: »

The scary thing about gun crime today is that they don't care when and where they do it. It doesn't have to be dark for them to strike, for instance last night it was still bright. It's only a matter of time before an innocent person gets caught up in it again.

Sunlight has never had any inherent bullet deterring qualities.

And if the bizzies are all getting shooters then I want one too

Nodin · 18-06-2009 12:35PM

Volvoboy wrote: »

Another young fella shot dead tonite;

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0617/coolock.html

Kinda makes ya wonder what kinda place Ireland will be like in a few more years.

That depends. We're blow average for a country of our size as historically, emmigration has kept our crime rate down.

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