Gun Crime

Volvoboy

Another young fella shot dead tonite;

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0617/coolock.html


Kinda makes ya wonder what kinda place Ireland will be like in a few more years.

poisonated

Im not trying to be prejudiced here or anything but... it always seems to happen in the same areas...maybe Im wrong but this isnt the first time it has happened in this area is it??

Sharpshooter

Can't watch the clip as I don't have Real Player but Coolock is not too far from where I am, and it seems like all we are hearing about is stabbings and shootings and rapes.:(
I seriously worry for the kids of today as most of them don't stand a chance.

Volvoboy

poisonated wrote: »

Im not trying to be prejudiced here or anything but... it always seems to happen in the same areas...maybe Im wrong but this isnt the first time it has happened in this area is it??

I live less than a half a mile from where the shooting took place, i dont think you can call into question certain areas in being trouble zones, shootings happen all over now.

It's a daily occourance.

admiralofthefleet

its a sad fact of life that unfortunetly, we have to live with. there will always be criminals and gun crime will always happen north, south, east and west

Saibh

The 15th gangland killing according to the news report, probably won't be the last.

poisonated

Volvoboy wrote: »

I live less than a half a mile from where the shooting took place, i dont think you can call into question certain areas in being trouble zones, shootings happen all over now.

It's a daily occourance.

yeah I suppose that is true its like people being racist towards an entire race because because they have met one b_astard from that country...thats one out of about 10 million!
you cant judge the entire population becaus of one bad egg!

SoupyNorman

Once they don't shoot me and 'most' boards users then I dont care who gets shot.

Volvoboy

poisonated wrote: »

yeah I suppose that is true its like people being racist towards an entire race because because they have met one b_astard from that country...thats one out of about 10 million!
you cant judge the entire population becaus of one bad egg!

Good man.

utick

mureders have always happened, and gangland mureders are the type of murders i least worry about, usually its just scum getting a death sentance the justcie system should of given them in the first place

Sharpshooter

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Once they don't shoot me and 'most' boards users then I dont care who gets shot.

AHs reality bites.:pac:

SoupyNorman

Sharpshooter wrote: »

AHs reality bites.:pac:

Well thats the nitty gritty of the modern world we live in...


/goes back to reading Polly Clarkes latest.

Sharpshooter

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Well thats the nitty gritty of the modern world we live in...

Unfortunately you are right.

Guy:Incognito

My only issue is that they waste Garda time trying to solves these victimless "crimes". Not to mention the waste of ambulance and hospital staff.

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

Merch

Stekelly wrote: »

My only issue is that they waste Garda time trying to solves these victimless "crimes". Not to mention the waste of ambulance and hospital staff.

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

Jeeez??

Sharpshooter

Stekelly wrote: »

My only issue is that they waste Garda time trying to solves these victimless "crimes". Not to mention the waste of ambulance and hospital staff.

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

It usually does come to light that it was tit for tat so in those instances I fully agree with you.

Guy:Incognito

Merch wrote: »

Jeeez??

How many people would choose to keep spending money on Gards to investing these incidents and hospitals to pronounce them/fix them if they could put the money directly into reopening the ward in Crumlin for instance? Or oipenin a whole new hospital?

SoupyNorman

Sharpshooter wrote: »

It usually does come to light that it was tit for tat so in those instances I fully agree with you.

I also fully agree when its Tit for Tit.

Manic Moran

Stekelly wrote: »

Leave them where they are till roadworks are due then just shovel them in.

That, too, would be a waste.

There's this new company opening up called "Soylent". I hear they might be able to help out.

NTM

joey54

The scary thing about gun crime today is that they don't care when and where they do it. It doesn't have to be dark for them to strike, for instance last night it was still bright. It's only a matter of time before an innocent person gets caught up in it again.

gurramok

Stekelly wrote: »

How many people would choose to keep spending money on Gards to investing these incidents and hospitals to pronounce them/fix them if they could put the money directly into reopening the ward in Crumlin for instance? Or oipenin a whole new hospital?

They have before shot dead inncocent people who got in their way so they must be caught.

joey54

gurramok wrote: »

They have before shot dead inncocent people who got in their way so they must be caught.

And its only a matter of time before it happens again. It truly is shocking, they have no fear of anyone or anything. They do what they like and answer to no one. It is a worrying state of affairs and sadly I think it is only a matter of time til we have to arm Gardai.

Merch

Stekelly wrote: »

How many people would choose to keep spending money on Gards to investing these incidents and hospitals to pronounce them/fix them if they could put the money directly into reopening the ward in Crumlin for instance? Or oipenin a whole new hospital?

I get your point but innocent people have been shot too and even if the person shot is scum, to an extent he and his/her family (usually a his) are victims. There isnt and shouldnt be different tiers for different people, maybe the gardai will find something, the family will see this and the community might turn against these people, if they are left to rot (not literally) only resentment can set in, or further resentment.
I have a lot of gripes with the gardai but its really down to our crappy politicians and what we are willing to spend to imprison (for long sentences)and try rehabilitate them if they are dangerous or a more finacially and beneficial system for those that aren't dangerous, not just murder, but burglary.

As for funds spent somewhere and not another place, thats a complicated issue.
I dont care if its scum thats shot really, but justice has to be fair and seen to be fair, I also think its should be tougher, tough buit fair.

Merch

joey54 wrote: »

And its only a matter of time before it happens again. It truly is shocking, they have no fear of anyone or anything. They do what they like and answer to no one. It is a worrying state of affairs and sadly I think it is only a matter of time til we have to arm Gardai.

I think be careful of knee jerk reactions, there should be armed compnents of the Gardai, but not all I think.

The training should be given to all, perhaps in safety with firearms so they are familiar with unloading and making a weapon safe. In a real system the ongoing training, costs and maintenance of a system that is not open to fault could be money spent elsewhere in the gardai.
If gardai management cant manage to keep the cars in a good state or at least without buying brand new vehicles all the time,why would we move on to guns?

biko

Volvoboy wrote: »

Kinda makes ya wonder what kinda place Ireland Dublin/Limerick will be like in a few more years.

Fortunately it's restricted to certain cities, and will remain so I hope.

He was reportedly known to gardaí as being involved in drugs and gun crime. Mr Joyce was named in the High Court earlier this year by the head of the Criminal Assets Bureau as a member of a well organised north Dublin drug trafficking gang.

Vegeta

Magnus wrote: »

Fortunately it's restricted to certain cities, and will remain so I hope.

He was reportedly known to gardaí as being involved in drugs and gun crime. Mr Joyce was named in the High Court earlier this year by the head of the Criminal Assets Bureau as a member of a well organised north Dublin drug trafficking gang.

Yeah in Galway you only have to worry about being raped days after you get into the country or being killed and left in a freezer

mickydoomsux

Meh. One more scumbag dead, good.

GlindaGale

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Meh. One more scumbag dead, good.

I live right around the corner from where this took place and was passing by as the young man's mother ran screaming from the house and collapsed on the ground. the poor woman was understandably distraught.It was the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen, and I've been very shaken and upset about it since.

This young man was somebodies son and you are a disgrace for being so presumptious and callous.

I am galled at your lack of sympathy for his family and friends.

Mizu_Ger

Anybody who buys drugs, no matter how harmless they think it is, or dodgy cigarettes are contributing to all this.

Dyr

joey54 wrote: »

The scary thing about gun crime today is that they don't care when and where they do it. It doesn't have to be dark for them to strike, for instance last night it was still bright. It's only a matter of time before an innocent person gets caught up in it again.

Sunlight has never had any inherent bullet deterring qualities.

And if the bizzies are all getting shooters then I want one too

Nodin

Volvoboy wrote: »

Another young fella shot dead tonite;

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0617/coolock.html


Kinda makes ya wonder what kinda place Ireland will be like in a few more years.

That depends. We're blow average for a country of our size as historically, emmigration has kept our crime rate down.

Hogmeister B

GlindaGale wrote: »

This young man was somebodies son and you are a disgrace for being so presumptious and callous.

I am galled at your lack of sympathy for his family and friends.

Oh, nonsense. He was a bloody scumbag. Why his mother was so upset I don't know, if my son was like that i'd be glad to see him go. As for his friends, no doubt they were scum as well.

uprising

Gun crime is out of control, these dirt dont give 2 fukcs who, when or where they shoot. In finglas last week, a body was found stabbed, a few hours later another body found shot and partially buried, a man from finglas, as I drove through Finglas every second car I passed was an unmarked garda car, with armed garda in it, probably from all over Dublin, then the same day at 4.30pm another fella was shot in the arse a few times about 200m from the home of 2nd body, the fukcers didnt even bother waiting till the place cooled down, just shows how much they fear being caught, yet they werent, even though the place was swarming with armed gardai.

Another incident happened a few weeks back, wasnt even reported, a scumbag was mouthing he was going to do this and that outside a house, he walked down the road and a van picked him up, within seconds a cyclist with a balaclava comes looking for him as the van pulls off, the cyclist heads from finglas west down to finglas south where he finds your man and produces a gun, tries to blow his head off but your man raises his arm and knocks the gun as its being fired and runs another shot is fired but he only got a few pellet wounds as he was wearing a bullet proof vest.

I've watched gun crime rise and rise in this place over the years, it gets worse as time goes by, more common and frequent, more blatant and indiscriminate. Sometimes I say "let them kill each other" but then I think whats coming after them and its worse, these fellas were kids when it got bad and using guns to settle anything is "NORMAL" to them.

Anybody wanting to source a gun in Finglas is no problem if the price is right, it could take from 2mins to an hour and "there you go!" happy hunting or whatever you want it for.

Its sick....

Dyr

uprising wrote: »

Anybody wanting to source a gun in Finglas is no problem if the price is right, it could take from 2mins to an hour and "there you go!" happy hunting or whatever you want it for.

Its sick....

I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon, WITH nail polish

uprising

Bambi wrote: »

I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon, WITH nail polish

I could probably get one myself, doubt it would have nail polish though, maybe a tag.

KevR

Vegeta wrote: »

Yeah in Galway you only have to worry about being raped days after you get into the country or being killed and left in a freezer

Those appalling high profile cases aside, Galway apparently has the lowest crime rate statistically of any city in the country (really only Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford but still).

While it's quite rare to hear about gun crime in Galway at the moment, there are guns around the place in the hands of the wrong people. They just haven't used them much up to this point but there's no gaurentee that they won't in future. Hopefully not though!