Racism in Norm Iron

17-06-2009 09:27AM #1

What is it with people up there; after decades of hating each other, they now have turned on immigrants!

Can't they live in peace with anyone!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8104287.stm

A five-day-old girl is among more than 100 Romanian people who have spent the night in a church hall after fleeing their homes in south Belfast.
The group of about 20 families said they left their homes in the Lisburn Road area after suffering racist attacks for almost a week.

javaboy · 17-06-2009 09:30AM

I love the smell of sweeping generalisations in the morning!

super_furry · 17-06-2009 09:30AM

There's always been that element to loyalism. It's why there's such close links between and groups like the BNP.

mike65 · 17-06-2009 09:31AM

Sure, why end the hate? Certain "types" need an enemy, any enemy.

17-06-2009 09:33AM

javaboy wrote: »

I love the smell of sweeping generalisations in the morning!

It saves trying to be PC and a lot of typing!

Ozziej · 17-06-2009 09:33AM

Generalisation is right. You could even be more specific. The UDA has always had links with the BNP and Combat 18. The UVF and IRA being more left wing in nature. Noone could ever accuse Sinn Fein of being rightwing or anti-immigrant in policy. Unless of course you call the planters immigrants ha ha.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 17-06-2009 09:35AM

"Norm Iron?"

Is that the name of a mooted Cheers and Marvel comics crossover?

super_furry · 17-06-2009 09:37AM

Plus South Belfast is a loyalist area.

b0bsquish · 17-06-2009 09:39AM

Yeah cause there's no racism in rest of the country at all.

damn foreigners eating our swans

super_furry · 17-06-2009 09:41AM

There's a slight difference between people talking ****e about swans and 100 people being hounded of their homes in a concerted effort.

beeno67 · 17-06-2009 09:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

What is it with people up there; after decades of hating each other, they now have turned on immigrants!

Can't they live in peace with anyone!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8104287.stm

Oh it is not just immigrants, what about gays and lesbians, or Muslims trying to build a Mosque? In Northern Ireland equal oppurtunity means hate everybody.

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-06-2009 09:42AM

So we can have a whole thread attacking the Loyalist/Protestant population in Northern Ireland but we can say nothing about Irish Travellers

mike65 · 17-06-2009 09:44AM

beeno67 · 17-06-2009 09:49AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

So we can have a whole thread attacking the Loyalist/Protestant population in Northern Ireland but we can say nothing about Irish Travellers

Yeah but Irish Travellers aren't as intolerent as Norn Iron People

Aidric · 17-06-2009 09:50AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

So we can have a whole thread attacking the Loyalist/Protestant population in Northern Ireland but we can say nothing about Irish Travellers

Double standards. Where?

wes · 17-06-2009 09:58AM

Aidric wrote: »

Double standards. Where?

There is a world of difference between a ethnic group and a political group.

Now, having said that. It is unfair to make sweeping generalizations about the whole lot of the North, but singling out Loyalist groups, who have known links to far right group is perfectly valid point in the discussion, as there is a possibility that they are involved.

BraziliaNZ · 17-06-2009 10:10AM

it's true, there's a lot more bigotry going on up there, they seem to lap it up, this has been going on for years, i remember watching a program about people from the Chinese community being hounded out of their homes and their shops being attacked etc a few years ago up there. Their scum must be even more stupid/intolerant as ours.

Jaysoose · 17-06-2009 10:25AM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

it's true, there's a lot more bigotry going on up there, they seem to lap it up, this has been going on for years, i remember watching a program about people from the Chinese community being hounded out of their homes and their shops being attacked etc a few years ago up there. Their scum must be even more stupid/intolerant as ours.

So you have seen one documentary a few years ago and this makes you an authority on the subject?

Donny5 · 17-06-2009 10:43AM

Jaysoose wrote: »

So you have seen one documentary a few years ago and this makes you an authority on the subject?

In After Hours, it does.

ShooterSF · 17-06-2009 10:44AM

To be fair to the northerners, what in their history made you think they, in general, are the tolerant type? At least there open and consistent about it.

stovelid · 17-06-2009 10:52AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The group of about 20 families said they left their homes in the Lisburn Road area after suffering racist attacks for almost a week.

That means they could come down here?

Be careful. When they cross the border, they magically morph from innocent victims of human-rights abuse to durty swan-eating, roundabout-squatting bastids.

BaZmO* · 17-06-2009 10:56AM

Ray Uninterested Manure wrote: »

"Norm Iron?"

Is that the name of a mooted Cheers and Marvel comics crossover?

No it's what the guy from Cheers uses to hit a bolf gall

Gran Hermano · 17-06-2009 11:02AM

Nothing new with these attacks. We've had the Loyalists attack Catholic Irish, Polish, Chinese and even French people in the recent past.
I don't see it as a religous issue but more a class one.

Jaysoose · 17-06-2009 11:05AM

Donny5 wrote: »

In After Hours, it does.

Fair enough i suppose...this is the internet where opinions with no base = fact...

Back on track. IS the OP suggesting that racism is something we northies just invented?

Day toookkk errr jobbs!!

philologos · 17-06-2009 11:11AM

Racism is a problem every where, Northern Ireland is no different. For example, anti-Semitism is a growing problem in certain areas of Europe. Racist hate crime has been increasing in the UK in general over the last few years.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/02/17/anti.semitism/index.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/18/islam.religion

Racism in Russia:
http://www.rferl.org/content/Medvedev_Warns_Of_Rising_Racist_Attacks_In_Russia/1380434.html

Hungary and Czech Republic:
http://www.tol.cz/look/TOL/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrIssue=325&NrSection=2&NrArticle=20639

I'm sure the list goes on and on.

the_dark_side · 17-06-2009 11:11AM

ok... the first issue is the word 'tolerant'

I have Romanian and Polish neighbours in my area...so I consider myself to be a very 'tolerant' person

getz · 17-06-2009 11:20AM

the_dark_side wrote: »

ok... the first issue is the word 'tolerant'

I have Romanian and Polish neighbours in my area...so I consider myself to be a very 'tolerant' person

local people are the last to know,look at kensika monshengwo,the training officer for the ncc on racism in ireland said,i have witnessed first hand the sneering authoritarianism,i also have to meet a coloured person who has not experienced racism in dublin ,as said in a earlier post its everyware

Tha Gopher · 17-06-2009 11:23AM

While I am in no way condoning this, I saw the BBC report. Romanians in the UK afaik need to go through a work permit scheme.

If I may throw the cat amongst the pigeons, and lets leave all the PC bits and pieces at the door PLEASE, these Romanians were Roma. Lets be honest, we have seen alot more making money on the street than we do in workplaces. Are they all working, on work permits? If not, why are they in Belfast and who is paying for the homes they lived in?

Again, not condoning, but it does remind me of the case of the gypsy girl shot dead in HSE accomadation in Dublin, which begged the question of why exactly she was living in a HSE building. It is questions like this that the mainstream parties refuse to tackle/ completely ignore that gets fcukheads like the BNP into office. If the UK/ Ireland is giving jobless EU citizens with no intention of working financial assistance in a time of recession it is a scandal tbh.

davyjose · 17-06-2009 11:26AM

Ironicest thread title of the year finalist.

asdasd · 17-06-2009 11:27AM

When they cross the border, they magically morph from innocent victims of human-rights abuse to durty swan-eating, roundabout-squatting bastids.

they come down here where they are safe in their houses. Of course there is opposition to immigration in Ireland, the EU elections show that opposition is widespread.

People are, however, safe in their houses.

Jaysoose · 17-06-2009 11:32AM

Donny5 wrote: »

In After Hours, it does.

asdasd wrote: »

they come down here where they are safe in their houses. Of course there is opposition to immigration in Ireland, the EU elections show that opposition is widespread.

People are, however, safe in their houses.

Ridiculous statement alert......

Tell that to my neighbour whos house was broken into the other week when they were in bed upstairs.

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