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Hypothetical situation

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    What if she did take the MAP... that can fail too... some women just can't face an abortion...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    If you create a baby, pay for it. End of.

    If you don't want to create a baby, don't (take the risk and) have sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,755 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Similar to hypothetical situation 2:

    Woman: If I let you handcuff me to the bed will you promise not to stick it up my arse?

    Man: Of course


    Both situations end with one person fcuked in a way they didn't want to be because either:

    a) you should have stayed away from the cnut

    or

    b) you stayed away from the cnut.

    Someone will always get fcuked though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    In regards to the first post, if there is anything I've learned from Judge Judy, it's that verbal agreements do not hold water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Mask wrote: »
    From my personal experience you should never trust a woman. Something similar happened to a friend of a friend, his gf said she was told by a doctor she could not get pregenant. No prizes for guessing what happened..

    There is so much wrong with this post.. If he was so certain that this isn't what he wanted, why didnt he have a bag on it anyway? Evil wimminz eh? :rolleyes:

    Those eggs remain perfectly unfertilized until someone comes along shuts down the brain and thinks with their cock. As the song goes, "It takes two baby....".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    If you're **** you're banking, if you're porking you're forking.



    ( i just posted that :o)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Abigayle wrote: »
    As the song goes, "It takes two baby....".

    Not all of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    TheZohan wrote: »

    Mmmmmm a bit of Zohan before bed ;)

    Comes in for kiss.. licks Zohans lips suggestively and slowly.. hands wander down back to the ass.. pulls ass towards Abi.. Abi can feel something hard on her.. Zohan drops lips to neck and bewbs.. You know how this goes.. he drops the hand finds her all wet.. [/making point]

    This is where it seems to get very blurry for guys.. If the only protection is a condom, that is something that both have to place their trust in. Why is either one to blame in this scenario? Yes there are deceptive men, and deceptive women. Its all the more reason why you should take responibility yourself, rather than lay your trust in the other person alone (especially in a relationship in its early stages).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Mmmmmm a bit of Zohan before bed ;)

    Comes in for kiss.. licks Zohans lips suggestively and slowly.. hands wander down back to the ass.. pulls ass towards Abi.. Abi can feel something hard on her.. Zohan drops lips to neck and bewbs.. You know how this goes.. he drops the hand finds her all wet.. [/making point]

    This is where it seems to get very blurry for guys.. If the only protection is a condom, that is something that both have to place their trust in. Why is either one to blame in this scenario? Yes there are deceptive men, and deceptive women. Its all the more reason why you should take responibility yourself, rather than lay your trust in the other person alone (especially in a relationship in its early stages).

    You had me at hello....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Abigayle wrote: »
    blah blah

    Hey, what about my post?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Abigayle wrote: »
    If the only protection is a condom, that is something that both have to place their trust in.

    My point is: it isn't the only protection, the snip is there if you want a failsafe (or as near as) method. Condoms have a failure rate and men have to accept that, as indeed the pill has. Sex has risks even with protection. I'd prefer to keep the little responsibilities we have rather than remove them.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    TheZohan wrote: »
    You had me at hello....

    You had me at 'sterilized' ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    K-9 wrote: »
    My point is: it isn't the only protection, the snip is there if you want a failsafe (or as near as) method. Condoms have a failure rate and men have to accept that, as indeed the pill has.

    Well thats a post I cant disagree with. Accidental pregnancies come in a few different forms. Number one for example being the 'doctor told me I can't have babies' form. Now this isnt impossible, one condition I know of is PCOS (if Im right). I do know it seriously knocks the odds. The pill has odds, condoms have sucess odds.. If either male or female are not genuinely ready for it, they should take responsibility for their own protection at the very least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    In regards to the first post, if there is anything I've learned from Judge Judy, it's that verbal agreements do not hold water.

    That would be oral then?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Mmmmmm a bit of Zohan before bed ;)

    Comes in for kiss.. licks Zohans lips suggestively and slowly.. hands wander down back to the ass.. pulls ass towards Abi.. Abi can feel something hard on her.. Zohan drops lips to neck and bewbs.. You know how this goes.. he drops the hand finds her all wet.. [/making point]

    This is where it seems to get very blurry for guys.. If the only protection is a condom, that is something that both have to place their trust in. Why is either one to blame in this scenario? Yes there are deceptive men, and deceptive women. Its all the more reason why you should take responibility yourself, rather than lay your trust in the other person alone (especially in a relationship in its early stages).

    If you ever consider writing erotic stories let me know and I will buy some:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Well thats a post I cant disagree with. Accidental pregnancies come in a few different forms. Number one for example being the 'doctor told me I can't have babies' form. Now this isnt impossible, one condition I know of is PCOS (if Im right). I do know it seriously knocks the odds. The pill has odds, condoms have sucess odds.. If either male or female are not genuinely ready for it, they should take responsibility for their own protection at the very least.

    The other side is plenty of men don't pay maintenance already or very little, I'd hate to see weasels like that get a "get out of jail free card".

    "Ah sure, she told me she was on the pill"!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    In regards to the first post, if there is anything I've learned from Judge Judy, it's that verbal agreements do not hold water.

    That's where you are wrong. Judge Judy does indeed recognise verbal agreements, or if you happen to appear before her she likes to call them verbal contracts.

    However if you can prove that the sperm was a 'gift' then you are a free man.

    If the sperm was a 'loan' then you are screwed, in every sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead



    Bitch was dry too

    Your fault


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    K-9 wrote: »
    The other side is plenty of men don't pay maintenance already or very little, I'd hate to see weasels like that get a "get out of jail free card".

    "Ah sure, she told me she was on the pill"!

    Well, it's up to the mothers involved to seek maintenance through the court. I dont see why they wouldnt.

    Don't get me wrong, I do know there are two sides to every story, the only reason why I was able to reply to Zohan in the way that I did was, because I can relate to being caught up in a moment. (Although I gave the AH version of it, not the S&S) :pac:

    The bottom line for either man or woman is, look after yourself. remove the protection when you know you can handle the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    K-9 wrote: »
    The other side is plenty of men don't pay maintenance already or very little, I'd hate to see weasels like that get a "get out of jail free card".

    "Ah sure, she told me she was on the pill"!

    Sitting on it does fcuk all to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

    Yes, that should surely be changed to "I'm Swallowing the pill every morning".

    There are far too many of those lousers about and in some cases have 4 and 5 kids, they are the one's I would like to see made hand over every penny to help raise their children.:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    How about get the snip AND use a condom...it's not rocket science.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    bronte wrote: »
    How about get the snip AND use a condom...it's not rocket science.

    Ya have to love how this girl thinks ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Well, it's up to the mothers involved to seek maintenance through the court. I dont see why they wouldnt.

    Often a quite life, rightly or wrongly. There are often valid arguments over the amount of maintenance but some are just too tight and don't want to pay anything or as little as possible. This is the type I don't want using "she was on the pill" as an excuse.
    Abigayle wrote:
    Don't get me wrong, I do know there are two sides to every story, the only reason why I was able to reply to Zohan in the way that I did was, because I can relate to being caught up in a moment. (Although I gave the AH version of it, not the S&S) :pac:

    The bottom line for either man or woman is, look after yourself. remove the protection when you know you can handle the results.

    :o Ach I knew that, you did pick up on my point.
    Sitting on it does fcuk all to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

    Yes, that should surely be changed to "I'm Swallowing the pill every morning".

    There are far too many of those lousers about and in some cases have 4 and 5 kids, they are the one's I would like to see made hand over every penny to help raise their children.:pac:

    Indeed and whatever few "assets" they have. How you get a law that encompasses cases where a man is taken advantage of and the above, I don't know?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Ya have to love how this girl thinks ;)

    This is why we should be friends! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    bronte wrote: »
    How about get the snip AND use a condom...it's not rocket science.

    Well if as in the OP'S scenario, I think this is the best defense. The snip being the most important part.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    K-9 wrote: »
    Well if as in the OP'S scenario, I think this is the best defense. The snip being the most important part.

    If you really really don't want kids..then yeah I think so..

    I don't know if theres an age limit on blokes like there is gals for the op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    bronte wrote: »
    If you really really don't want kids..then yeah I think so..

    I don't know if theres an age limit on blokes like there is gals for the op.

    Plus if they change their mind later on in life they can have a reversal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Plus if they change their mind later on in life they can have a reversal.

    True enough..forgot about that...everyones a winner!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    bronte wrote: »
    How about get the snip AND use a condom...it's not rocket science.

    Maybe not relating to the men you know. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Maybe not relating to the men you know. ;)

    Any man I consider that type of thing with follow my rules or die.


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