Stand off at Caseys halting site...yet again people

irishvamp90 wrote: »

I thought the equal status act made it harder for publicians?Did the caseys not take a pub in town to court,Cholessys maybe?What the hell do you do if they walk into your pub??

The equality board is gone or at least they don't here discrimination cases related to pubs anymore. It goes before a judge now. There were too many assholes trying to setup publicans claiming discrimination, and the equality board capitulated too easily. But that has got old fast and the authorities are seeing it for what it is now..a scam. Of course the act is still there and you can't discriminate. But a publican can now refuse and doesn't have to give a reason also. That's a reversal on the previous law where they could refuse only on certain grounds. But you are always running the risk if you don't give a reason, that the scum will try to claim discrimination. You have to tread a fine line. But 99% of the time your'e ok as the scum are usally behaving like themselves (sub human) so the reason for refusal is apparent to all. Cops will in most cases take a publicans side anyway. Plus you have witnesses. Whether they testify is another matter but it's rare anything gets to court with this scum.

As for getting into the pub. Simple. Alot of publicans and taxi drivers in Limerick know when the "country family" are doing the rounds and keep in touch with each other. So you lock your doors. If it's only a few of them around they generally don't bother causing trouble seeing as they are drunken cowards in small numbers and generally stick to 1 or 2 scummy bars in the city. Plus some small pubs have enough long term locals to not tolerate any s*it and the scum know better than to try it on when in small numbers. But if it's a removal at Crosses funeral home then you definitely have to shut up. The only positive thing is when one of them get's snuffed late in the week as in this case. Then the funeral is Sunday usually, and a lot of pubs won't loose too much business since a bigger and bigger number now open after 6pm anyway since business is down. As far as I know the funeral passed off this weekend without a hitch. I believe the scum had their scummer relatives over from the UK, and had a hotel in Rathkeale booked for Sunday. They were also around Smyths bar on Friday and Saturday. And again no trouble. Probably the extra security put them off.

The "country family" is the code word taxi's and some publicans use for the Caseys No idea why. They don't all go into smyths as one large brood. A few go in. Then a few more. etc.. Sometimes the bouncers don't spot it. Once 10+ of them are in, things can kick off. They didn't cause any trouble Sat. or Sunday. They reguarly go into Smyths in small numbers. I have only heard of trouble in their on 2 occasions with them. As for hotels, some hotels who will take bookings from them will ask for a very large deposit. Any damages come out of that. This is well known. The case you refer to with Clohesy's may have been the incident a few New Years Eve's ago, when 1 of them bought a large no. of tickets. They showed up outside the bar around 10pm at night in their highaces and the bouncers refused to leave them in. They left after a bit of a scuffle. Was a good laugh. Was watching from the window Never heard what happened in the end with regards to court.

Most hotels do. Some don't or don't mind if a significant deposit is left especially if a large portion of the family are from the area. Has always been the case. Also, I could name half a dozen upmarket bars the Caseys have caused trouble in and attacked innocent punters. As I said they generally stay away from bars with door staff if they are very drunk or intend causing trouble. Lately they have been sticking to the more seedier venues from what I've been told. You know, if each of them had half a brain, they'd still have half a brain in total between them

No idea which upmarket bars they drink in currently as they generally drink in seedy spots i.e. Norberts. They do frequent Smyths and Riddlers from time to time but in small numbers. There was definitely a few of them in Smyths Friday afternoon for lunch as a family member spotted them. But as I said, there was no trouble. It's only in big groups when they get drunk that trouble usually starts. In small numbers you wouldn't even spot them. Also, there aren't as many Caseys around Limerick in recent years as a lot of them have actually left Limerick (pulled their kids out of the community creches).

Haven't heard of any trouble though which is a good thing. Strange they were in Limerick last night as they were supposed to be at a function out in Rathkeale. I guess maybe there are lots of rumours going around. Then again, there is enough of them to spread around.

irishvamp90 wrote: »

Are they the same Caseys that killed a barman in limerick couple of years back?

an unrelated family, with the saem surname but form the same area as far as i know.
i could be wrong.

irishvamp90 wrote: »

Ok sorry it just sounded that way,well it seems he was not able to reason with them and i doubt he was an angel himself

Im sure your right, far from an angel..

irishvamp90 - are you doing an investigative piece for some newspaper or gathering intelligence for a vigalente group, cause all these questions about their motives,how they go about,how they get into places, makes it sound like it

-the fact is pubs let each other know when they are around and shut their doors. it's usually events like funderals which cause them to come out in big numbers.
-in small no's they usually dont cause trouble and some pubs let them in (even those with bouncers). and in small no's they go away if asked usually.
-those unlucky enough to be caught out by a large group of them (they come in, in 2's and 3's), usually ring the cops. my experience is the cops respond pretty quickly and it helps if you know a detective on duty.
-how they go about is probably on foot. limerick is a small city. and they probably don't go about all together which is why you hear about them in various bars.
-people have nothing good to say about them because they are louts who live off the social welfare system, are involved in drug dealing and intimidation, think they are above the law, and cause trouble when and where they see fit (not just in pubs).
-they are associated with one of the major crime families in Limerick
-rumours are, and they are only rumours is some of them are rats, hence suspended or very lenient sentances when convicted

That's all I have to say about them.

Mate, I'm sorry to hear that and I didn't mean to offend you. hence the smiley. I hope they get it sorted. Start by complaining to the council, the cops and your local TD or councillor. 3 families where I live were moved out over anti-social behaviour, all mainly due to talking to my local councillor after receiving a petition from residents, local business's, parish priest etc..

Well any of the comments I made on this thread regarding this group were facts I observed myself over years of dealing with these "people". And at least 1 person in this thread has an ongoing problem with them.

jmccoy wrote: »

I was always sceptical of the travelling community until I was in an environment where I had to mingle with them as part of my job and all I can say is that it is a minority like the Caseys that gives them a bad name.

I doubt that very much, they are all tarred with the one brush for good reason.

irishvamp90 wrote: »

That law sounds like its against bar staff??Did you see one of them got a write up in this weeks leader for sport,must be regeneration p.r

Several of them are very good boxers in fairness and train very very hard