airfrance plane dissappears off the radar

homerjay2005 · 01-06-2009 02:13PM

terrible tragedy. still doesnt put me off flying though, i love it, i have 20 hours of flying coming up in the next 10 days.

geuro · 01-06-2009 02:13PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Looks like a new way to cut down on immigrants!!

you're an idiot

ctrl-alt-delete · 01-06-2009 02:14PM

TPD wrote: »

After a while I think. Sure they have life jackets under the seats, must be able to float long enough to get people out.

I'm fairly sure the staff are trained not to open the back doors when laqnding on water, this helps,

also the fuel and air (located in the wings) are both lighter than water so this helps it maintain buoyancy,

it will eventually sink as you say though.

homerjay2005 · 01-06-2009 02:19PM

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

I'm fairly sure the staff are trained not to open the back doors when laqnding on water, this helps,

also the fuel and air (located in the wings) are both lighter than water so this helps it maintain buoyancy,

it will eventually sink as you say though.

when the plane landed in the hudson, it stayed afloat for a while, long enough for the people to be rescued. however, as mentioned, landing in an ocean is more difficult. a few years ago, a hijakced plane ran out of fuel and crash landed in the ocean, there were many survivors. only issue here would be that if peiople survived, they have bene in the water for 12 hours at this stage.

Mark200 · 01-06-2009 02:20PM

I think the one that landed in the Hudson (calm water), sunk within an hour or something. And they said after that if any of them had been in the water for a few minutes they could have died just from how cold it was.

dr.bollocko · 01-06-2009 02:21PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Looks like a new way to cut down on immigrants!!

Please quit trolling comments like the above.

geuro wrote: »

you're an idiot

And here's why. Banned.

Rabies · 01-06-2009 02:22PM

geuro wrote: »

you're an idiot

No. Its AH. He is making light of the situation.

edit:

Rabies; the AH mod that doesn't do any work.

Ta daaaaaaa.

IvyTheTerrible · 01-06-2009 02:24PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

when the plane landed in the hudson, it stayed afloat for a while, long enough for the people to be rescued. however, as mentioned, landing in an ocean is more difficult. a few years ago, a hijakced plane ran out of fuel and crash landed in the ocean, there were many survivors. only issue here would be that if peiople survived, they have bene in the water for 12 hours at this stage.

Actually the thing that was interesting about that hijacked plane crash was that more people would have survived if they'd been listening to the safety talk before the flight and NOT inflated their life jackets before they got out of the plane.

dr.bollocko · 01-06-2009 02:24PM

My first thought was to mail people the link saying "May contain lost spoilers."
Now they all think I'm a callous bastard.

Rabies · 01-06-2009 02:26PM

I hope they like human flesh.

Mrmoe · 01-06-2009 02:29PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Looks like a new way to cut down on immigrants!!

But what about our supplies of coke and hookers? This is a sad, sad day.

Mark200 · 01-06-2009 02:29PM

Wow the Lost jokes just keep getting more original :rolleyes:

Anyway... for anyone trying to come up with more... it's the wrong ocean for a start.

Mrmoe · 01-06-2009 02:32PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Wow the Lost jokes just keep getting more original :rolleyes:

Anyway... for anyone trying to come up with more... it's the wrong ocean for a start.

what do you expect, they are lost, must have been a female pilot.

Rabies · 01-06-2009 02:32PM

but the island moves

so does the plane.

so does the earth.

oh oh... maybe they all moved to the same point and place in time.

Can't wait for the next episode.

mick.fr · 01-06-2009 02:33PM

FIY the plane did not go off of radars since there is no radar stations in the Atlantic sea to monitor civilian flights.
The plane was 7 hours into flight when they lost contact.
Pilots are supposed to make a radio contact to some airports regularly to indicate their positions and also give an estimation of arrival to points X, Y, Z...No radio contact was made after some time.

An automated message was sent by the plane computer to Air France Control Station in Roissy to indicate a full electric system failure.
Pilots did not make any radio call. Analysts in France are saying even with full electric failure, batteries should still have been available.

The plane has also several redudancies in terms of electric cables. Each electric function has like 6 redudancies.

Anyway that's all we know right now.

af_thefragile · 01-06-2009 02:33PM

Mrmoe wrote: »

But what about our supplies of coke and hookers? This is a sad, sad day.

Doesn't that come from East Europe rather than South America?
Though I guess a lot of drugs come from South America.

thebman · 01-06-2009 02:38PM

I don't really think it is all that relevant unless you knew people on it if they are Irish or not.

Fact is there were people on it and they'll have families and many people effected by the crash.

If it went missing mid-atlantic there is little hope of any survivors. Hope they find the black box so they can work out what went wrong.

dr.bollocko · 01-06-2009 02:40PM

thebman wrote: »

I don't really think it is all that relevant unless you knew people on it if they are Irish or not.

Fact is there were people on it and they'll have families and many people effected by the crash.

If it went missing mid-atlantic there is little hope of any survivors. Hope they find the black box so they can work out what went wrong.

Apparently an automatically generated message indicating electronic failure was the last communication with the plane some 4 hours after take off. The plane was going through strong turbulence. One of the theories is that it was struck by lightning.

Mark200 · 01-06-2009 02:43PM

With all the gps systems in cars these days you'd think they'd stick one on every plane.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2008-10-10-airlines-gps_N.htm

af_thefragile · 01-06-2009 02:46PM

Mark200 wrote: »

With all the gps systems in cars these days you'd think they'd stick one on every plane.

I think planes do have GPS...

Mark200 · 01-06-2009 02:50PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

I think planes do have GPS...

Nope.. I added a link there in my post. Well they do have GPS receivers, but I mean GPS as in allow other people to be able to follow them. Instead of using radar. If they had that then no one would have to 'search' for the plane... they'd know exactly to a meter where it crashed.

mick.fr · 01-06-2009 03:02PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Nope.. I added a link there in my post. Well they do have GPS receivers, but I mean GPS as in allow other people to be able to follow them. Instead of using radar. If they had that then no one would have to 'search' for the plane... they'd know exactly to a meter where it crashed.

This is called a transponder mate
Even if turned off, the plane would turn up on other planes radars and ground stations (If in scope).

Mark200 · 01-06-2009 03:11PM

mick.fr wrote: »

This is called a transponder mate
Even if turned off, the plane would turn up on other planes radars and ground stations (If in scope).

Yes, if in scope.... whereas GPS systems are more accurate and there is no 'scope' as long as you have like 3 different satellites. And GPS is far more accurate

Clank · 01-06-2009 03:44PM

Gulp,I'm flying from Rio to Paris in a few days,with Air France....

Mark200 · 01-06-2009 03:47PM

Clank wrote: »

Gulp,I'm flying from Rio to Paris in a few days,with Air France....

Really??

Well... keep your eyes peeled for any debris you may fly over...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 01-06-2009 04:00PM

The little bird sat on a branch OF the tree.

The child fell OFF the bike.

Or in your case, the plane disappeared OFF the radar

dfx- · 01-06-2009 04:01PM

Big plane, fast impact (?), very deep mid-Atlantic. Not much hope..probably in 1 trillion pieces on the seafloor

Fairly difficult to land an airbus with its engines below the wings on water. That hijacked Ethiopian plane tried to coast down and still broke into three when the engine dug in

IvyTheTerrible · 01-06-2009 04:05PM

Sonia Numerous Penknife wrote: »

The little bird sat on a branch OF the tree.

The child fell OFF the bike.

Or in your case, the plane disappeared OFF the radar

Ah how reassuring. Planes may crash, swine flu may spread and the recession will invade after hours, but at least some one is checking our grammar... :pac:

goldenbrown · 01-06-2009 04:08PM

no sign of it over sandyford if thats any help:cool:

01-06-2009 04:10PM

http://www.pictaero.com/en/pictures/picture,42364

Thats the actual plane thats missing.

It's known by the call sign F-GZCP

airfrance plane dissappears off the radar

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