why do people move so far away

Mr.Lizard · 24-05-2009 03:54PM

markopantelic wrote: »

just looking on the australia forum the cost of flight tickets, and then hearing my cousin who moved to canada a few years ago say how he won't be able to come back to ireland for a few years, and i'm thinking why do people move so far away if they dont really want to? my cousin and sister live in london and paris respectively and they can like come how pretty regulary, i mean if you move to australia or something your kinda stuck there.

whats your opinion.

You just answered your own question there.

robinph · 24-05-2009 04:05PM

markopantelic wrote: »

but everyone wants to be close to family

Since when?

jester77 · 24-05-2009 06:51PM

Most people are too lazy or unwilling to learn a new language, so they move to the only places that speak English.

Tchaikovsky · 24-05-2009 07:44PM

towel401 wrote: »

The furthest you can get away from ireland on this earth is a tiny island a few hundred miles to the right of new zealand

What about Tristan da Cunha? Man I'd love to live there

Tchaikovsky · 24-05-2009 07:45PM

ArseBurger wrote: »

Fly to the right, 10,500 miles. Fly to the left, 10,300 miles. Couldn't really get further away.

Doing in the maths.... you'd eventually end up in Wales

deecom · 25-05-2009 03:15AM

jester77 wrote: »

Most people are too lazy or unwilling to learn a new language, so they move to the only places that speak English.

Yup! Been out in a country that would not have a language on the leaving cert course! And can safely say its true, I speak German and French too, but wanted a new challenge. So i think, move away, will do you the world of good! If your up for it. As regards family, further the better!!

No regrets about moving!

25-05-2009 03:18AM

markopantelic wrote: »

thinking why do people move so far away

Crossed the pond west for a free ride at university.**

**Oops! That sounds a bit erotic? Ha! Well, we do party a lot!

nitrogen · 25-05-2009 04:00AM

b12mearse wrote: »

Well I'd never moved to the U.K. because you'll always be a Paddy there.

You'd be surprised, it's not the 1960s and London is a little more multicultural than Dublin will ever be.

As Carl Sagan said, we were wanderers from the beginning.

towel401 · 25-05-2009 04:37AM

London is full of preppy students with iPhones who drink overpriced coffee

seanybiker · 25-05-2009 04:45AM

qz wrote: »

You must be a real penis to be around.

Ha ha ha. I feel all warm now after pissing meself. Ah thats lovely.

25-05-2009 10:51AM

I wouldn't have much interest in moving to the UK but North America sounds appealing to me. I'm very close to my family and that would be the most difficult part but other than that I have very little to lose. I'll probably stay here as long as I'm working but if I end up losing my job for whatever reason then I might consider it.

shane86 · 25-05-2009 11:13AM

I moved to Oz because I couldnt hack our sh1t weather and overpriced cost of food and drink. And our mostly sh1t nightclubs. Out here I can easily afford a few pints after work, takeaway food is cheap as, steak dinners for about one euro, it cant be beat.

Only things I miss are some tv shows, good pizza (most Sydney pizza is terrible) and chipper food (Ozzies aint got a clue how to make a quarter pounder like you get in an Irish chipper

big greasy fallin apart yokes like the sh1t you get in Eddie Rockets seems to be all they have)

Christ I could sure go for a garlic and cheese fry from Abras now :pac:

Apart from Oz my only options would be the UK, Holland, possibly Germany, possibly Canada. I couldnt live in yankee land if you paid me, I feel part of my soul dying when I talk to your average yank woman abroad (maybe only the travelling ones are knobs, I dont know)

dr.bollocko · 25-05-2009 11:25AM

shane86 wrote: »

I moved to Oz because I couldnt hack our sh1t weather and overpriced cost of food and drink. And our mostly sh1t nightclubs. Out here I can easily afford a few pints after work, takeaway food is cheap as, steak dinners for about one euro, it cant be beat.

Only things I miss are some tv shows, good pizza (most Sydney pizza is terrible) and chipper food (Ozzies aint got a clue how to make a quarter pounder like you get in an Irish chipper big greasy fallin apart yokes like the sh1t you get in Eddie Rockets seems to be all they have)

Christ I could sure go for a garlic and cheese fry from Abras now :pac:

Apart from Oz my only options would be the UK, Holland, possibly Germany, possibly Canada. I couldnt live in yankee land if you paid me, I feel part of my soul dying when I talk to your average yank woman abroad (maybe only the travelling ones are knobs, I dont know)

What are you on about? Are you a time traveller from Oz in the middle fifties?
Beer is more expensive there than here. Steak dinners for a euro? What?
The food there is shoite.

Mr.Lizard · 25-05-2009 11:30AM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

What are you on about? Are you a time traveller from Oz in the middle fifties?
Beer is more expensive there than here. Steak dinners for a euro? What?
The food there is shoite.

Beer is cheaper out there (their domestic stuff anyway - Carlton, Tooheys, VB etc). I've never seen steaks for (equiv) one euro but I have had 3 dollar steaks in Syndey that weren't too bad. 5 Dollar Steaks are fairly decent too.

shane86 · 25-05-2009 11:54AM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

What are you on about? Are you a time traveller from Oz in the middle fifties?
Beer is more expensive there than here. Steak dinners for a euro? What?
The food there is shoite.

What?

Even Guinness and Heineken are cheaper here despite the distance they travel (though the Guiness is pretty poor)

There are 3 dollar steak meals available, that is about 1.80 euro last I checked. I can have a 4.50 euro fry up brekkie that costs a tenner back home. List goes on, shocking cheap.

But, as said, jesus Aussies cant do burgers or pizza generally speaking.

dr.bollocko · 25-05-2009 12:02PM

shane86 wrote: »

What? Even Guinness and Heineken are cheaper here despite the distance they travel (though the Guiness is pretty poor)

There are 3 dollar steak meals available, that is about 1.80 euro last I checked. I can have a 4.50 euro fry up brekkie that costs a tenner back home. List goes on, shocking cheap.

But, as said, jesus Aussies cant do burgers or pizza generally speaking.

Dammit. I should have stayed longer in Sydney. The ole domestic beer is rough stuff.

Mr.Lizard · 25-05-2009 12:06PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

The ole domestic beer is rough stuff.

I loved Carlton. Started off with VB (which wasn't bad either) but stopped as soon as I found out everyone associated it with being a knacker.

Rented Mule · 25-05-2009 02:06PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It's been a fucking long famine.:eek:

It apparently ended in 1992.

Rabies · 25-05-2009 02:29PM

I moved in '06. Back twice since and going back again in 8 weeks. Its far away, but only 32hrs or so of travelling to get home.

shoegirl · 25-05-2009 02:33PM

markopantelic wrote: »

i'm thinking why do people move so far away if they dont really want to?

Its definitely untrue to suggest that anybody would move to Australia or NZ without really wanting to. If you are not going on a temporary visa there is a cost of a few thousand dollars just to apply, and you can be left waiting for anything from 6 weeks to over a year on a visa outcome - which you have no guarantee of getting. Canada can be as much as a 3 year wait.

So nobody is going to even apply unless they really want to go.

Then again, you don't really know what these places are like until you go and live there. Some people get impressions of places from others or have unrealistic expectations. Nobody is forced to go anymore.

shoegirl · 25-05-2009 02:36PM

shane86 wrote: »

But, as said, jesus Aussies cant do burgers or pizza generally speaking.

They do great Asian cuisine though, the best Malaysian outside of Malaysia itself.

Its definitely cheaper than Ireland for food and drinking, accomodation is pricey enough though. I thought the cost of living in Sydney was generally fairly close to what you would pay in Dublin overall, but that was over a year ago and I think Ireland has got much, much worse as regards cost.

25-05-2009 03:58PM

I dont really understand it either, I lived in the UK for a while and didnt like living away from Ireland. Ideally I would be living back in Galway, Cork is even too far away for me!!

asdasd · 25-05-2009 04:10PM

Having lived in the West coast of America, and now in England ( well most of the time) I can see the OP's point. I made friends in America, but was sad to miss a funeral of an Aunt ( sad that she died too, of course) and sad that I missed some other events - births of nephews and nieces. And eventually I ran out of places near the West coast to visit at w/ends. I am not anti-American, in fact I will be going back to Seattle this year some time for a holiday, and then Texas.

So I moved to Ireland, and my job took me so often to England ( a real nice part of England) that I am effectively settled here. I dont really see this as a emigrant experience, since I am 45 minutes from Dublin. I have gone out after work in England, and finished the night in Dublin.

I like England. I like villages, and pubs, and Cathedrals and old Gothic churches. I like Ireland. I like Germany. I like France. I like Hungary. I like popping over to the continent in general. I have even taken the train to Paris ( more expensive than RyanAir but it has it's charm and nice to end up in a city, not in a "suburb" 50 miles away). I like popping over to Europe when I want. The East coast of the US is as close as it was when I was in the West coast of the US.

In Australia, Perth is 3,942 km from Sydney. You'd really want to like Perth. Really really really like Perth, because Perth and the bush is what you have.

Thats a thousand KM more than the distance between Dublin and Moscow ( from here).

I dont want to upset too many Australians by suggesting that is more to see between Dublin and Moscow, than Perth and Sydney.

EDIT:

There isnt much in flyover country of the US either, though I am looking forward to Texas later this year.

shane86 · 26-05-2009 09:55AM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Dammit. I should have stayed longer in Sydney. The ole domestic beer is rough stuff.

Tooheys Extra Dry is great, cold fresh stuff.

Tooheys New on the other hand is dirty toilet water that has to be tasted to be believed. I normally turn down the innumerable free beer vouchers I get for the muck, and I wouldnt turn down a free case of expired Dutch Gold ffs. Shocking excuse for beer.

26-05-2009 10:15AM

i know one lad who's been in america bout 10 years cause of a drug case here... good a reason as any!

RaverRo808 · 26-05-2009 11:42AM

Its human nature to assume the grass is greener on the other side,we want to explore and experience things we cant experience at home,we assume someone else has it better somewhere else,but I think all this moving to Australia lark is aload of b*llox,Im of the opinion that I live somewhere which quiet,comfortable,good neighbours,nice cozy house,food in the fridge,and everything I need at my doorstep,yeah I havent a merc or a mansion,but lifes comfortable,why f*ck around with it by leaving the country

liah · 26-05-2009 11:47AM

markopantelic wrote: »

ah yes canada the place where your skin freeze instantly for 6 months of the year, wonderful indeed:rolleyes:

Evidently you've never heard of British Columbia, where in the south the whole place shuts down if there's even a centimetre of snow, and it never sinks below -5-- like Ireland-- but unlike Ireland, it's pretty much 90% sun year round.

Canada's a big fecking place, there's definitely something for everyone.

pipeliner · 26-05-2009 11:50AM

towel401 wrote: »

London is full of preppy students with iPhones who drink overpriced coffee

They have a ucd in london?

anonymous_joe · 26-05-2009 01:49PM

pipeliner wrote: »

They have a ucd in london?

I thought UCD was full of mucksavages in Gah jerseys. :pac:

It's because Irish people are the moaniest bunch on the planet. Nothing ever makes us happy.

Also, it's because people like to move. Half of Australia and New Zealand seem to live in London, and it's for the same reason most of Dublin seems to be living in Manly. And that's not for sun, because people aren't moving to escape the Irish weather (though they might think they are) they're moving to experience life somewhere new.

shane86 · 27-05-2009 09:57AM

RaverRo808 wrote: »

Its human nature to assume the grass is greener on the other side,we want to explore and experience things we cant experience at home,we assume someone else has it better somewhere else,but I think all this moving to Australia lark is aload of b*llox,Im of the opinion that I live somewhere which quiet,comfortable,good neighbours,nice cozy house,food in the fridge,and everything I need at my doorstep,yeah I havent a merc or a mansion,but lifes comfortable,why f*ck around with it by leaving the country

I used to be the same, happy in the same old town with the same old mates drinking in the same old places, then I went on a one month holiday to Oz and realised I couldnt hack our weather and our cost of living. Two no- summers in a row was the end of it.

why do people move so far away

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