Have YOU seen a Fianna Fail canvasser yet?

RHRN · 20-05-2009 08:38PM

5318008! wrote: »

I have the perfect video lined up and ready to post for when Cowen steps down.

It's gonna be epic.

And as a reult of these issues, I have decided to step dow-

PLAY HIM OFF KEY BOARD CAT!!!

:pac:

phasers · 20-05-2009 08:42PM

I don't get many, probably because I'm in quite a "disadvantaged" area and have two very noisy dogs. Saw some little auld one legging it from the house last week after they started barking!

anniehoo · 20-05-2009 08:45PM

Overheal wrote: »

Questionaire

Questionnaire FTW :P

galwayrush · 20-05-2009 08:48PM

anniehoo wrote: »

Questionnaire FTW :P

Forgive me, i am a graduate of an education system that has been run by FF for most of the past 30 years.:o

KnifeWRENCH · 20-05-2009 08:54PM

Yeah we've had one FF and one FG, both for local elections. It was my Dad who answered the door to both of them and he's far too polite to say anything bad to either of them, so he just took the leaflets and said thanks.

Having said that, the FF candidate in question has an excellent reputation locally and I don't think the fact that his party has made a mess of things will severely impact on his vote.

Tbh I understand people giving out about FF TD's and Government ministers but I don't see what good it would do to hurl abuse at local election candidates who will only have power at a local level.

Jenroche · 20-05-2009 09:02PM

I came out of mass on Sunday and there were two FF'ers standing outside canvassing. One of them tried to hand me a leaflet and I gave him a withering look, telling him he'd be better off going into the church and praying for forgiveness! He protested saying he was a new candidate and I told him he'd picked the wrong party to run for in that case!

Also had Sinn Fein and an Independent here this evening. The independent was a former FF'er but was very keen to point out that he'd left the party because he could not condone their policies. I let him leave without throwing abuse/knives/cats at him.

Jen ;->

Overheal · 20-05-2009 09:32PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Forgive me, i am a graduate of an education system that has been run by FF for most of the past 30 years.:o

Ironically im a product of that very same education system.

neaideabh · 20-05-2009 10:51PM

I have canvassed for Fianna Fail... and I look forward to getting lip at the door because from my opinion it is the Know it alls who gives it! The majorityof people have been ok with us. Some will say we are ok, some will say they were traditionally FF and not sure now and some will say they are traditionally FG or whatever party.

For those who are borderline we agree to an extent that the govt messed up but local politics has not much an effect on the state of the nation as dail eireann.

At the end of the day, the people messed up. Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

Overheal · 20-05-2009 10:59PM

neaideabh wrote: »

I have canvassed for Fianna Fail... and I look forward to getting lip at the door because from my opinion it is the Know it alls who gives it! The majorityof people have been ok with us. Some will say we are ok, some will say they were traditionally FF and not sure now and some will say they are traditionally FG or whatever party.

For those who are borderline we agree to an extent that the govt messed up but local politics has not much an effect on the state of the nation as dail eireann.

At the end of the day, the people messed up. Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

do you twitter? facebook? myspace? FF, not you particularly.

neaideabh · 20-05-2009 11:05PM

Overheal wrote: »

do you twitter? facebook? myspace? FF, not you particularly.

I have facebook but don't understand your question or are you making a point?

Biggins · 20-05-2009 11:14PM

I have had everyone of them from all the parties at my door knocking it
...except for guess which party!

I am still waiting for a FF canvaser to call and/or the actual candidate.
In all my years of having the politicians, I can NEVER remember such a lack of one party calling to doors.

I agree with many that they know they are going to get a lashing, they ARE afraid to call to the doors of a lot of places and they are generally in hiding. keeping their heads down.

They are sending out their youth Ogra members to do the drop leaflets but even they do the letterbox drops and run like hell.

I still await the fist FF to my door ...and god help the poor fcuk! :mad:
(that's joke, a FF being poor - has anyone actually met a poor one!)

I'm gonna drag the schite in and make them apologise to my daughter right there and then for the hell they are making of her life!
Will record it too on frakin' camcorder if I have time to pick it up before attempting to strangle the fecker!

The Mad Hatter · 20-05-2009 11:25PM

netwhizkid wrote: »

A Fianna Failer once tried to Canvass me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Hm...think I'll watch that film now.

BVB wrote: »

I had FF at the door in Celbridge about 3 weeks ago . I told him he was a joke and just when I closed the door he said " use your second choice for FF""

I still dont know who to vote for . I know this is the EU elections but everyone seems to be abusing them as if its a general election

You could do what I'm doing - vote against FF, Sinn Féin and Libertas. I'm not voting for anyone either.

neaideabh wrote: »

At the end of the day, the people messed up. Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

Hold on - that was the price of the houses. What'd you expect people to do? Wait five years before they bought?

People (I'm sure you'd call them know-it-alls) were warning that the bubble would burst for years, and they were wholly ignored by Fianna Fáil.

neaideabh wrote: »

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed,' but the fact that Fianna Fáil were not wholly to blame for the does not absolve them from guilt in either a) doing nothing to prevent or lessen the impact of the recession or b) messing up their response when it did happen.

neaideabh wrote: »

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

Well, your intelligent and well-informed attack on Enda Kenny has probably left the Fine Gael base stunned and ready to shift to FF at any moment. As for Gilmore, *gasp* a politician getting his facts wrong? Really? FF have never done that.

neaideabh wrote: »

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

What an absurd and stupid argument. If you're worthless when you start the job, then all the experience in the world won't make you good at it. Witness George Bush.

Wibbs · 20-05-2009 11:49PM

neaideabh wrote: »

I have canvassed for Fianna Fail... and I look forward to getting lip at the door because from my opinion it is the Know it alls who gives it! The majorityof people have been ok with us. Some will say we are ok, some will say they were traditionally FF and not sure now and some will say they are traditionally FG or whatever party.

I would reckon you're right. People rant a good rant, but rarely do sod all about it, especially when face to face.

For those who are borderline we agree to an extent that the govt messed up but local politics has not much an effect on the state of the nation as dail eireann.

And what a state we're in.

At the end of the day, the people messed up.

One of the first rules is you both legislate and allow for idiots and idiotic banking practices. Nice angle of debate BTW. The people messed up. Yep by voting idiots in. Successive idiots too of all sides. Some voted for a government who couldn't govern and the rest voted for an opposition that couldn't oppose. So yep in one way you're right. The people messed up.

Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

Which the government stepped back from and actively encouraged. The same morons who were tasked with looking into the housing market and the bubble within and doing fcuk all about it are now the same morons now tasked with sorting out the banks. I'm sure our grandchildren will appreciate the irony and laugh. If they can afford to.

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

Yep all good, yet other nations wer and are able to sustain a working health service with less money. Public housing, transport and infrastructure the same. The government(and I care not a jot for their party) failed on so many levels it's not funny. Through the most prosperous years of our history, what happened to the citizens taxes? They were píssed up a wall. The m50 and the toll road fiasco sums them up. How many times have we as a nation paid for that road? Not withstanding the EU monies that built it in the first place, yet it was operated and sold off to cronies of the government. And you'll never guess.... oh yea we still have to pay for it. Genius. We were like a kid winning the lottery, spending and spending on nothing and everything with no clue. Oh yes you may blame the people for the fcuk up. Very convenient, but that's not leadership. A bad workman blames his tools. Tools many were, but there were moronic tools voting for other moronic tools they looked to for leadership. God forbid they may find any. In any part of the political spectrum.

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

I agree. All of them are morons, or powerless against the morons. Some may say, the english stopped telling irish jokes on the back of the PC movement. I say we became too easy a target. You would get a laugh in any venue in the land and beyond by just reading the manifestos and policies of every party on this island.

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

Being an experienced bunch of morons hardly equates to actual experience, not given the results. Lets not forget, before fanny mae, fanny batter or whatever, this country had one of the worst infrastructures in Europe and the one of the worst health services in the world. Indeed it was worse than in the 70's when we were basically broke. So I say to all political parties of all hues, fúck off until you give us actual policies that may work, not empty bogger parish pump bollox that has come to sweet fanny adams. Experience prevails indeed.

dan719 · 21-05-2009 12:20AM

Biggins wrote: »

They are sending out their youth Ogra members to do the drop leaflets but even they do the letterbox drops and run like hell.

I still await the fist FF to my door ...and god help the poor fcuk! :mad:
(that's joke, a FF being poor - has anyone actually met a poor one!)

I'm gonna drag the schite in and make them apologise to my daughter right there and then for the hell they are making of her life!
Will record it too on frakin' camcorder if I have time to pick it up before attempting to strangle the fecker!

So if a young FF member who has never been anywhere within spitting distance of a policy decision, calls to your door, you're going to physically assault him and attempt to humiliate him?

Big man you are.:rolleyes:

LD 50 · 21-05-2009 12:30AM

not one. gotten a load of waste paper from them through the letter box though

The Mad Hatter · 21-05-2009 12:33AM

dan719 wrote: »

So if a young FF member who has never been anywhere within spitting distance of a policy decision, calls to your door, you're going to physically assault him and attempt to humiliate him?

Big man you are.:rolleyes:

By remaining in the party and canvassing for it, they're showing that they support the party.

dan719 · 21-05-2009 12:36AM

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

By remaining in the party and canvassing for it, they're showing that they support the party.

And since when did membership of a political party become grounds for public humiliation and physical assault?

LivingDeadGirl · 21-05-2009 12:39AM

Haven't seen one yet. In fact I haven't seen any at all! Bar my dad, who's canvassing for a local Labour candidate. :P

The Mad Hatter · 21-05-2009 12:40AM

dan719 wrote: »

And since when did membership of a political party become grounds for public humiliation and physical assault?

Well, I don't think Biggins was being entirely serious. That said, I do think anyone who still supports Fianna Fáil needs at the very least a very stern talking-to or lobotomy.

KnifeWRENCH · 21-05-2009 12:55AM

neaideabh wrote: »

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

So we shouldn't bother with elections anymore then? FF have the most experience so we should keep them in all the time?
I'd be all in favour of new blood if that blood wasn't FG. I would not like to see a FG led government but if they do well at the local/European elections they'll have built up momentum to carry with them to the next general election, whenever that may be.

Personally I've never had any reason to hate FF. The only interaction I've had with a FF TD was a very positive one. But I think they have gotten far too complacent.They don't seem to be making any effort to try and persuade people to keep faith and keep voting for them. On a national level they seem to be very distant from the general public, and this can also be seen in some of their candidates for the local/European elections.

The results in June will be very interesting.

Biggins · 21-05-2009 01:21AM

dan719 wrote: »

So if a young FF member who has never been anywhere within spitting distance of a policy decision, calls to your door, you're going to physically assault him and attempt to humiliate him?

Big man you are.:rolleyes:

No bigger than the scum thats cutting the bare essential lifelines at Crumlin Hospital thats helping my daughter to keep an even a basic life!

Get over yourself and use the intelligence you have to see I was speaking hypertensively with disgust for them!
I have more respect for the law of the land and what's more, the law of common decency than the many two faced Fianna Failers that are currently cowering away from our doorways and at the same time stabbing in the back, our sick children!
Any Fianna Fail supporter that continues to try advance an organisation that closes down VITAL AND ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY services FOR SICK CHILDREN - then yes, by god, I will humiliate them - and they deserve it too by god! At least I will leave them alive which is more than their scumbag filled party is currently trying to do through farce, even sicker twisted policies. It's the least they deserve!

I mean seriously, how sick and twisted does a person have to be to still support an organisation that cuts bare basic services for already ill children. Children suffering from Lukemia, Cancer, Sickle Cell, Scoliosis, to name a few...
If you support a party that advocates that policy then by heavens, damn right you can expect to be called up on it and humiliated at the doorways of the nation for helping to prop up such twisted minds and keep them in power!

I am a speaker at the national day of protest this coming Saturday and by god, I'll say the same damn thing there and to the nation!

...hiding from our doors? COWARDS. BARE FACED COWARDS .

Roll on the next general election. One that might just come before FF think it will!

Agent Smith · 21-05-2009 01:31AM

i was out canvassing last week for a FG candidate, and knocked on the door of a house

me: hello, sorry to disturb you this....
guy: If your with fianna fail, i'll blow your ****ing head off
me slowly handing him our leaflet : no no, we're here with Fine Gael.
guy: ah thats ok then, yer man rock is it?

If you dont want canvassers, Print off a a4 page with "no canvassers please"
very simple. Any canvasser stupid enough to do it after ignoring that sign deserves what they get.

ak51535 · 21-05-2009 01:36AM

ah they dont have the cheek to come knocking on my door lol...get some earfull so they would!

Brimmy · 21-05-2009 01:52AM

Was out doing it on behalf of a Green Part candidate as a favour last week. The hate for Fianna Fail is unreal. The best response for the Green candidate was "I wont be voting for them, they've just turned into the PDs".

I pissed myself laughing

Dave! · 21-05-2009 01:53AM

No canvasser has called to my house yet

From any party

Or independent

K-9 · 21-05-2009 02:00AM

Knife-WREEENCH wrote: »

So we shouldn't bother with elections anymore then? FF have the most experience so we should keep them in all the time?
I'd be all in favour of new blood if that blood wasn't FG. I would not like to see a FG led government but if they do well at the local/European elections they'll have built up momentum to carry with them to the next general election, whenever that may be.

Personally I've never had any reason to hate FF. The only interaction I've had with a FF TD was a very positive one. But I think they have gotten far too complacent.They don't seem to be making any effort to try and persuade people to keep faith and keep voting for them. On a national level they seem to be very distant from the general public, and this can also be seen in some of their candidates for the local/European elections.

The results in June will be very interesting.

FF know they're fecked.

Completely agree with the far too complacent comment. They are in power too long! Simple as, out of touch!

banshee_bones · 21-05-2009 02:06AM

Dave! wrote: »

No canvasser has called to my house yet

From any party

Or independent

yeah same here... bizzare isnt it...since i live spitting distance from Galway county council offices!

Amazotheamazing · 21-05-2009 02:28AM

neaideabh wrote: »

I have canvassed for Fianna Fail... and I look forward to getting lip at the door because from my opinion it is the Know it alls who gives it! The majorityof people have been ok with us. Some will say we are ok, some will say they were traditionally FF and not sure now and some will say they are traditionally FG or whatever party.

For those who are borderline we agree to an extent that the govt messed up but local politics has not much an effect on the state of the nation as dail eireann.

At the end of the day, the people messed up. Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

Fianna Fail like to peddle the myth that Ireland was only ****ed up by the rest of the world, however, most people were warning for years that Ireland would not experience a "soft landing" in the housing market and that the Government needed to lessen the dependance of the economy on cheap credit and the building industry.

The Government, Fianna Fail, failed to do anything to deal with either problem. They also failed to properly regulate our banks, so instead of being a bulwark against an economic disaster, they aided it.

alan4cult · 21-05-2009 02:35AM

And Fianna Fail think that the Celtic Tiger was caused by them and the recession was caused by the global economy.

The Mad Hatter · 21-05-2009 10:42AM

My flat's kind of hard to find, but I'm half-tempted to put up a sign inviting canvassers - just because I want to have a go at the FFers. They're going to be absolutely destroyed in the North-West.

Biggins: had no idea about your daughter - I hope for her recovery.

Have YOU seen a Fianna Fail canvasser yet?

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