Have YOU seen a Fianna Fail canvasser yet?

darkman2

Been hearing some rumours of fierce abuse being given to FF canvassers in parts of the country. I have yet to see or have a single FF representative either in my area or up to the Manor. Im awaiting patiently so I can have a few words. (I live in an upper middle class area btw so if they won't canvass here where would they canvass!?)

I don't understand - how can they claim to have the authority to run the country when it's so obvious they are scared to do a bit of canvassing? Does that not tell them something? I am 99.99999% certain that I have seen no canvassers because they are too scared.

Has anyone seen a FF representative canvass for them yet? Has one actually come to your house? And also is it true about the rumours that over the past two weeks they have literally been threathened and run out of areas - abused if you will?

I feel sorry for them in a way - yes the country is in a pickle - but they are only canvassers.

Outkast_IRE

Ya micheal martin was round at my door last weekend i listened to what he had to say and left him be. Seriously is shouting at the canvassers goin to do anythin except upset some people who are giving their time for free most of the time

derby7

yep, spotted one yesterday evening, like rare animals they are, I growled at him, and he ran away !! he he he :pac::p

markok84

The auld wan chased a few of them up the road with a rolling pin, but then again she does that to everyone.

Nightwish

Havent seen one yet. Got lots of their garbage through the letterbox, but I think they're afraid to ring the doorbell.

admiralofthefleet

havent seen one yet but ive had a shítload of junk mail from them.

Overheal

"We run the country from a minimum safe distance..."

galwayrush

nope, none, then again, i have a questionaire on my front door addressed to them.:D

derby7

I know there's one calling tonite, so I've not fed the dogs all day, bow wow bite !:pac:

Overheal

galwayrush wrote: »

nope, none, then again, i have a questioneer on my front door addressed to them.

Questionaire

Four-Percent

Overheal wrote: »

Questionaire

Now you listen here sonny jim, this here is an irish forum and it's called a questionnaire on this side of them there hills.

Overheal

damn!

Super-Rush

Haven't seen one in person yet but there is one hiding in the Carlow forum

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Oddly enough, no...

5318008!

I have the perfect video lined up and ready to post for when Cowen steps down.

It's gonna be epic.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

5318008! wrote: »

I have the perfect video lined up and ready to post for when Cowen steps down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

It's gonna be epic.

Eh... wha????

galwayrush

One discovered.:rolleyes:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090519-missing-link-found.html

Wurly

Yep - about a month ago in Rathmines, Dublin.

Dunno who he was. But he called to the door. He didn't get a chance to speak before I asked him which party he was with. He handed me his card and said Fianna Fail. I laughed and said 'you have got to be taking the p1ss'. I gave him back his card and said, 'I don't think so, mate' and slammed the door.

Felt a bit bad about being so rude but it secretly brought about a huge amount of pleasure too.:D

TequilaMockingBird

No canvassers from any party here.

Mind you, it is a bit rough...

brianthebard

Don't think i've even got any flyers through the letter box.

TequilaMockingBird

(O Hai Brian!)

Shed loads of flyer's here, personally addressed to me, but no actual people...

Hagar

Nope, not a one, and I'm not surprised either.

Sofiztikated

Got one to the door yesterday, 11.30am. I had just drifted off to sleep after working nights, and heard a banging at the door, sounded urgent, so I hopped out and ran down the stairs.
Middle aged bird pushed something into my hand and said, "Appreciate your vote on the 5th" and turned to walk off.
I cursed her down the street, simply because some git did the same yesterday, and woke me up, meaning I was awake for roughly 40 hours til 9 this morning, didn't notice she was FF til after.

netwhizkid

A Fianna Failer once tried to Canvass me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

galwayrush

HAHA 2 People just came to my door, obviously read the notice and didn't knock or ring the bell.:D
Yep FF flyer obviously placed softly in the letterbox.:D

WIZE

I had FF at the door in Celbridge about 3 weeks ago . I told him he was a joke and just when I closed the door he said " use your second choice for FF""

I still dont know who to vote for . I know this is the EU elections but everyone seems to be abusing them as if its a general election

shenanigans1982

super-rush wrote: »

Haven't seen one in person yet but there is one hiding in the Carlow forum

There is?

Have not come across any candidates yet but when I was in my parents last week three people in their 60's knocked on the door canvasing for an FF candidate and when I asked where she was they said she was a few doors up. I told them to get her to call in when she was finished but surprisingly it never happened.

markopantelic

funny that, outrage but doing nothing about it. did these goons vote for their fellow goons? did they vote at all? if they didn't vote for FF, maby they should question democracy. if a FF called to the door I would well hear them out.

d11gunner

Bertie Ahern is in my next door neighbour's garden RIGHT NOW talking about a how it's a worldwide recession and that the house prices will come back up eventually. Any would be assassins or egg throwers should make their way to Phibsboro ASAP.

I've already told him to fcuk off.

AlmightyCushion

I haven't seen any yet canvassers yet which is a bit disappointing as I plan on telling any canvasser I meet that I won't be voting for them simply because they interrupted my valuable free time.

Wibbs

Funny enough no and usually they would be out in packs in my area. Had one independent. And a fine gaeler too so I asked what he and his party were actually going to do policy wise and how were they gonna get those policies through in a rainbow coalition with loyalties being pulled every which way. He just ranted on about how bad the government were and offered little beyond that. Other than they're corrupt. Didn't exactly warm to me when I mentioned one of their own in the last coalition Mr Lowry(among others) and possible corruption in the same sentence. Meh no surprise there.

TBH at this stage and after 20+ years of trying to be diligent in my voting, I've given up on the lot of it and them. I've damn near given up on many of my fellow countrymen and women too. The aforementioned Lowry, although exposed and booted out by his party and dragged through the tribunals(another fcuking waste of time clearly), has one of the highest majorities around. "Ah sure isn't he only great with the GAAAAA and the local pothole situation" etc etc. Jesus. Not just him either or in FG or FF. It's farcical and would be laughable if it wasn't so bloody scary. Many of our most popular politicians should be strung up by the heels, not feted and put in power again.

Mark me, though I may be wrong, don't be too shocked if FF get in again either. Oh sure they may get a bloody nose at the europeans coming up, but that'll be the protest vote and as I say don't be too shocked if they pass the post in the next general. Plus ca change

RHRN

5318008! wrote: »

I have the perfect video lined up and ready to post for when Cowen steps down.

It's gonna be epic.

And as a reult of these issues, I have decided to step dow-

PLAY HIM OFF KEY BOARD CAT!!!

:pac:

phasers

I don't get many, probably because I'm in quite a "disadvantaged" area and have two very noisy dogs. Saw some little auld one legging it from the house last week after they started barking!

anniehoo

Overheal wrote: »

Questionaire

Questionnaire FTW :P

galwayrush

anniehoo wrote: »

Questionnaire FTW :P

Forgive me, i am a graduate of an education system that has been run by FF for most of the past 30 years.:o

KnifeWRENCH

Yeah we've had one FF and one FG, both for local elections. It was my Dad who answered the door to both of them and he's far too polite to say anything bad to either of them, so he just took the leaflets and said thanks.

Having said that, the FF candidate in question has an excellent reputation locally and I don't think the fact that his party has made a mess of things will severely impact on his vote.

Tbh I understand people giving out about FF TD's and Government ministers but I don't see what good it would do to hurl abuse at local election candidates who will only have power at a local level.

Jenroche

I came out of mass on Sunday and there were two FF'ers standing outside canvassing. One of them tried to hand me a leaflet and I gave him a withering look, telling him he'd be better off going into the church and praying for forgiveness! He protested saying he was a new candidate and I told him he'd picked the wrong party to run for in that case!

Also had Sinn Fein and an Independent here this evening. The independent was a former FF'er but was very keen to point out that he'd left the party because he could not condone their policies. I let him leave without throwing abuse/knives/cats at him.

Jen ;->

Overheal

galwayrush wrote: »

Forgive me, i am a graduate of an education system that has been run by FF for most of the past 30 years.:o

Ironically im a product of that very same education system.

neaideabh

I have canvassed for Fianna Fail... and I look forward to getting lip at the door because from my opinion it is the Know it alls who gives it! The majorityof people have been ok with us. Some will say we are ok, some will say they were traditionally FF and not sure now and some will say they are traditionally FG or whatever party.

For those who are borderline we agree to an extent that the govt messed up but local politics has not much an effect on the state of the nation as dail eireann.

At the end of the day, the people messed up. Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

Overheal

neaideabh wrote: »

I have canvassed for Fianna Fail... and I look forward to getting lip at the door because from my opinion it is the Know it alls who gives it! The majorityof people have been ok with us. Some will say we are ok, some will say they were traditionally FF and not sure now and some will say they are traditionally FG or whatever party.

For those who are borderline we agree to an extent that the govt messed up but local politics has not much an effect on the state of the nation as dail eireann.

At the end of the day, the people messed up. Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

do you twitter? facebook? myspace? FF, not you particularly.

neaideabh

Overheal wrote: »

do you twitter? facebook? myspace? FF, not you particularly.

I have facebook but don't understand your question or are you making a point?

Biggins

I have had everyone of them from all the parties at my door knocking it
...except for guess which party!

I am still waiting for a FF canvaser to call and/or the actual candidate.
In all my years of having the politicians, I can NEVER remember such a lack of one party calling to doors.

I agree with many that they know they are going to get a lashing, they ARE afraid to call to the doors of a lot of places and they are generally in hiding. keeping their heads down.

They are sending out their youth Ogra members to do the drop leaflets but even they do the letterbox drops and run like hell.

I still await the fist FF to my door ...and god help the poor fcuk! :mad:
(that's joke, a FF being poor - has anyone actually met a poor one!)


I'm gonna drag the schite in and make them apologise to my daughter right there and then for the hell they are making of her life!
Will record it too on frakin' camcorder if I have time to pick it up before attempting to strangle the fecker!

The Mad Hatter

netwhizkid wrote: »

A Fianna Failer once tried to Canvass me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Hm...think I'll watch that film now.

BVB wrote: »

I had FF at the door in Celbridge about 3 weeks ago . I told him he was a joke and just when I closed the door he said " use your second choice for FF""

I still dont know who to vote for . I know this is the EU elections but everyone seems to be abusing them as if its a general election

You could do what I'm doing - vote against FF, Sinn Féin and Libertas. I'm not voting for anyone either.

neaideabh wrote: »

At the end of the day, the people messed up. Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

Hold on - that was the price of the houses. What'd you expect people to do? Wait five years before they bought?

People (I'm sure you'd call them know-it-alls) were warning that the bubble would burst for years, and they were wholly ignored by Fianna Fáil.

neaideabh wrote: »

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed,' but the fact that Fianna Fáil were not wholly to blame for the does not absolve them from guilt in either a) doing nothing to prevent or lessen the impact of the recession or b) messing up their response when it did happen.

neaideabh wrote: »

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

Well, your intelligent and well-informed attack on Enda Kenny has probably left the Fine Gael base stunned and ready to shift to FF at any moment. As for Gilmore, *gasp* a politician getting his facts wrong? Really? FF have never done that.

neaideabh wrote: »

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

What an absurd and stupid argument. If you're worthless when you start the job, then all the experience in the world won't make you good at it. Witness George Bush.

Wibbs

neaideabh wrote: »

I have canvassed for Fianna Fail... and I look forward to getting lip at the door because from my opinion it is the Know it alls who gives it! The majorityof people have been ok with us. Some will say we are ok, some will say they were traditionally FF and not sure now and some will say they are traditionally FG or whatever party.

I would reckon you're right. People rant a good rant, but rarely do sod all about it, especially when face to face.

For those who are borderline we agree to an extent that the govt messed up but local politics has not much an effect on the state of the nation as dail eireann.

And what a state we're in.

At the end of the day, the people messed up.

One of the first rules is you both legislate and allow for idiots and idiotic banking practices. Nice angle of debate BTW. The people messed up. Yep by voting idiots in. Successive idiots too of all sides. Some voted for a government who couldn't govern and the rest voted for an opposition that couldn't oppose. So yep in one way you're right. The people messed up.

Paying €250,000 for a small estate house that has a living room you can barely fit you new sofa into! It's called a property bubble and it is an economic phenonemon.

Which the government stepped back from and actively encouraged. The same morons who were tasked with looking into the housing market and the bubble within and doing fcuk all about it are now the same morons now tasked with sorting out the banks. I'm sure our grandchildren will appreciate the irony and laugh. If they can afford to.

This all began outside Ireland with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Sterns, etc and Ireland unfortunately was at the latter stages of a "cyclical" boom and was exposed.

Yep all good, yet other nations wer and are able to sustain a working health service with less money. Public housing, transport and infrastructure the same. The government(and I care not a jot for their party) failed on so many levels it's not funny. Through the most prosperous years of our history, what happened to the citizens taxes? They were píssed up a wall. The m50 and the toll road fiasco sums them up. How many times have we as a nation paid for that road? Not withstanding the EU monies that built it in the first place, yet it was operated and sold off to cronies of the government. And you'll never guess.... oh yea we still have to pay for it. Genius. We were like a kid winning the lottery, spending and spending on nothing and everything with no clue. Oh yes you may blame the people for the fcuk up. Very convenient, but that's not leadership. A bad workman blames his tools. Tools many were, but there were moronic tools voting for other moronic tools they looked to for leadership. God forbid they may find any. In any part of the political spectrum.

FF is a christian right wing party JUST like FG, Labour a tad bit more to the left. Enda Kenny wouldn't manage a ****e and Gilmore today got his facts wrong when making a populous attack on Cowen.

I agree. All of them are morons, or powerless against the morons. Some may say, the english stopped telling irish jokes on the back of the PC movement. I say we became too easy a target. You would get a laugh in any venue in the land and beyond by just reading the manifestos and policies of every party on this island.

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

Being an experienced bunch of morons hardly equates to actual experience, not given the results. Lets not forget, before fanny mae, fanny batter or whatever, this country had one of the worst infrastructures in Europe and the one of the worst health services in the world. Indeed it was worse than in the 70's when we were basically broke. So I say to all political parties of all hues, fúck off until you give us actual policies that may work, not empty bogger parish pump bollox that has come to sweet fanny adams. Experience prevails indeed.

dan719

Biggins wrote: »

They are sending out their youth Ogra members to do the drop leaflets but even they do the letterbox drops and run like hell.

I still await the fist FF to my door ...and god help the poor fcuk! :mad:
(that's joke, a FF being poor - has anyone actually met a poor one!)


I'm gonna drag the schite in and make them apologise to my daughter right there and then for the hell they are making of her life!
Will record it too on frakin' camcorder if I have time to pick it up before attempting to strangle the fecker!

So if a young FF member who has never been anywhere within spitting distance of a policy decision, calls to your door, you're going to physically assault him and attempt to humiliate him?

Big man you are.:rolleyes:

LD 50

not one. gotten a load of waste paper from them through the letter box though

The Mad Hatter

dan719 wrote: »

So if a young FF member who has never been anywhere within spitting distance of a policy decision, calls to your door, you're going to physically assault him and attempt to humiliate him?

Big man you are.:rolleyes:

By remaining in the party and canvassing for it, they're showing that they support the party.

dan719

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

By remaining in the party and canvassing for it, they're showing that they support the party.

And since when did membership of a political party become grounds for public humiliation and physical assault?

LivingDeadGirl

Haven't seen one yet. In fact I haven't seen any at all! Bar my dad, who's canvassing for a local Labour candidate. :P

The Mad Hatter

dan719 wrote: »

And since when did membership of a political party become grounds for public humiliation and physical assault?

Well, I don't think Biggins was being entirely serious. That said, I do think anyone who still supports Fianna Fáil needs at the very least a very stern talking-to or lobotomy.

KnifeWRENCH

neaideabh wrote: »

Fair enough then, you can argue that it's time for change, for new blood, etc but like everything in life, experience prevails!

So we shouldn't bother with elections anymore then? FF have the most experience so we should keep them in all the time?
I'd be all in favour of new blood if that blood wasn't FG. I would not like to see a FG led government but if they do well at the local/European elections they'll have built up momentum to carry with them to the next general election, whenever that may be.

Personally I've never had any reason to hate FF. The only interaction I've had with a FF TD was a very positive one. But I think they have gotten far too complacent.They don't seem to be making any effort to try and persuade people to keep faith and keep voting for them. On a national level they seem to be very distant from the general public, and this can also be seen in some of their candidates for the local/European elections.

The results in June will be very interesting.