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Wertz · 16-05-2009 09:19PM

You realise of course that it's usually the same people involved in the drug trade that are going out and doing these audacious cash in transit robberies, right?
These aren't some bunch of modern day Robin Hoods, nicking from the Brinks Allied to give to the council estate...these guys use the proceeds of these crimes to buy more cocaine to sell on for more profit or to replace the stuff that's been seized in the past.
I find it utterly bewilldering that you differentitate between armed robbers and drug dealers or would hold one above the other...

FabulousGirl · 16-05-2009 09:41PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Not a romantic view, but I do think it is a bit better than Drug Dealers. Just an opinion.

My mother used to work as a receptionist in a hotel. One night 2 men came in, jumped over the counter and attacked her with a screwdriver and a hammer. They were self proclaimed "Ordinary Decent Criminals" who just wanted to rob the hotel. My mother was traumatised after the ordeal and could never face going to work again so had to leave a job she loved. The physical scars healed but the mental ones were always there.
Fast forward a few years later and my mother is dying in hospital from a brain tumour. She thinks she's back in the hotel being attacked and is crying and screaming for help and telling me to hide so I don't get hurt.

Yeah, they're much better lads than drug dealers.

kumate_champ07 · 17-05-2009 12:25AM

perhaps your thinking of jessica fletcher the crime novelist?
shes a distant cousin of mine. she wanted to visit me last summer to see her irish ancestors but i didnt want any of my friends to die so i made my excuses

partyatmygaff · 17-05-2009 12:35AM

truecrippler wrote: »

Minister Ahern said: 'Today's incident is a reminder of the dangers faced by members of An Garda Síochána in carrying out their duties and their courage in confronting those dangers'.

Go on the Garda!!!

They are doing the job they're paid to do.
No one says "Go on the Chef" when they get a meal, Do they?

minidazzler · 17-05-2009 01:17AM

FabulousGirl wrote: »

My mother used to work as a receptionist in a hotel. One night 2 men came in, jumped over the counter and attacked her with a screwdriver and a hammer. They were self proclaimed "Ordinary Decent Criminals" who just wanted to rob the hotel. My mother was traumatised after the ordeal and could never face going to work again so had to leave a job she loved. The physical scars healed but the mental ones were always there.
Fast forward a few years later and my mother is dying in hospital from a brain tumour. She thinks she's back in the hotel being attacked and is crying and screaming for help and telling me to hide so I don't get hurt.

Yeah, they're much better lads than drug dealers.

If you read my post, it says where noone gets hurt. I am not defending criminals, but a guy who breaks into a warehouse at 2 in the morning and steals a bunch of IPods is more decent than a drug dealer, or indeed the lads you mentioned.

Also, I said NO dealings with Drugs, as in they don't even do drugs themselves. Just in it for the money, without hurting innocent people.

partyatmygaff · 17-05-2009 01:22AM

minidazzler wrote: »

If you read my post, it says where noone gets hurt. I am not defending criminals, but a guy who breaks into a warehouse at 2 in the morning and steals a bunch of IPods is more decent than a drug dealer, or indeed the lads you mentioned.

Also, I said NO dealings with Drugs, as in they don't even do drugs themselves. Just in it for the money, without hurting innocent people.

Yes because breaking into a warehouse and stealing a bunch of iPods is more decent than a drug dealer.
Scum are Scum, these so called "decent" robbers would not hesitate to kill or maim a security guard who gets in their way.

Borneo Fnctn · 17-05-2009 01:25AM

minidazzler wrote: »

If you read my post, it says where noone gets hurt. I am not defending criminals, but a guy who breaks into a warehouse at 2 in the morning and steals a bunch of IPods is more decent than a drug dealer, or indeed the lads you mentioned.

Burglary and theft are not the same as robbery. Robbery is where violence or the threat of violence are used. If a person has the intent to rob from you, he'll hurt you if he has to.

Sharpshooter · 17-05-2009 01:27AM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

They are doing the job they're paid to do.
No one says "Go on the Chef" when they get a meal, Do they?

Uh yeah, if their meals are provided by our very own madchef.;)
"Go on the Chef"

partyatmygaff · 17-05-2009 01:28AM

jackpalance wrote: »

Burglary and theft are not the same as robbery. Robbery is where violence or the threat of violence are used. If a person has the intent to rob from you, he'll hurt you if he has to.

Ok, Sorry a "burgular" breaks in to a warehouse to steal. Are they the type who likely gives a f*ck if they kill or injure someone else?

Borneo Fnctn · 17-05-2009 01:38AM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Ok, Sorry a "burgular" breaks in to a warehouse to steal. Are they the type who likely gives a f*ck if they kill or injure someone else?

That's another story. I'm not defending thieves here. I'm merely saying that stealing ipods from a warehouse is not comparable to armed robbery where violence or the threat of violence is used.

minidazzler · 17-05-2009 03:10AM

jackpalance wrote: »

That's another story. I'm not defending thieves here. I'm merely saying that stealing ipods from a warehouse is not comparable to armed robbery where violence or the threat of violence is used.

That's what I was trying to say.

Saying they are the same is similar to saying Raping a 15 year old is the same as having consentual sex with them. When it clearly isn't,

Damo1174 · 17-05-2009 04:15AM

FabulousGirl wrote: »

My mother used to work as a receptionist in a hotel. One night 2 men came in, jumped over the counter and attacked her with a screwdriver and a hammer. They were self proclaimed "Ordinary Decent Criminals" who just wanted to rob the hotel. My mother was traumatised after the ordeal and could never face going to work again so had to leave a job she loved. The physical scars healed but the mental ones were always there.
Fast forward a few years later and my mother is dying in hospital from a brain tumour. She thinks she's back in the hotel being attacked and is crying and screaming for help and telling me to hide so I don't get hurt.

Yeah, they're much better lads than drug dealers.

Thats bad. It is thieves like that who get everybody a bad name.

Ok heres how I see it. Ok if you walk into a bank and start demanding money (without a gun) then there not going to take you seriously and you might even find yourself getting taken down by a few of the bigger men in the que.

So you take a gun (it doesnt even have to be real or be loaded). Now the person behind the counter will take you seriously and nobody in the que is going to try to mess wit you.

However you dont have to go in there like a mad man. If you go in there and stay calm and tell people your not going to hurt anybody.. your just there for the money and if they pass it along then there will be no problems. Trust me. It can be done in a decent fashion that nobody is scarred for life physcially or emotionally. They might be a bit shook-up but its nothing they wont get over.

And you know what... not that yall probably care what i think. But bank robberies are definitely becomming a thing of the past. If you want to be a bank robber these days you better learn how to work computers.

kraggy · 17-05-2009 05:40AM

imeddyhobbs wrote: »

Every time the Garda ERU attend a bank or cash in transit robbery someone dies?

That's some state to be in, wha?

Seriously though, a good day for law-abiding citizens.

Delighted.

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