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Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,054 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Helix wrote: »
    we should pick up 25 points from our remaining games, so the question really is whether arsenal will pick up 32 from theirs or not
    jasonorr wrote: »
    I don't see either happening to be honest!
    Helix wrote: »
    why not?

    neither are beyond the realms of possibility
    jasonorr wrote: »
    No, but I just feel both teams will drop more points than that! I honestly couldn't even hazard a guess at this stage which team will finish higher as Arsenal are so bloody unpredictable and Villa have been remarkably solid!

    Villa: Had 51, get 76? Nope!
    Arsenal: Had 45, get 77? Nope!

    I like being right :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,138 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    jasonorr wrote: »
    Villa: Had 51, get 76? Nope!
    Arsenal: Had 45, get 77? Nope!

    I like being right :P
    Yea there is a couple of Villa fans from earlier in the season on this thread I really wanted to go back and highlight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,054 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Yea there is a couple of Villa fans from earlier in the season on this thread I really wanted to go back and highlight

    Yeah, I know...I purposely posted it here though. I didn't want to put it right up their noses as to be fair, there's only a few of them that were at it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Usmanov ready to pay off some of Arsenal's debts. Up until a week ago or so I always felt that Kroenke was the lesser of two evils between the two. However it is clear that Usmanov has a clear understanding of soccer and/or is surrounding himself with those who do.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0513/arsenal.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    DenMan wrote: »
    Usmanov ready to pay off some of Arsenal's debts. Up until a week ago or so I always felt that Kroenke was the lesser of two evils between the two. However it is clear that Usmanov has a clear understanding of soccer and/or is surrounding himself with those who do.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0513/arsenal.html

    dear god no. Usmanov might be a soccer fan, but he's still downright shady in his dealings. There's a reason the board allied themselves with Kroenke over Usmanov.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭DenMan


    That's very true man. Same thing applied to Chelsea when Roman went there. Nobody was asking about his fortune, and how he acquired it...just what it could get them.

    I am very impressed with Kroenke and his plans. That academy set up in Denver, CO looks great. If Usmanov pours money into the club, will the existing shareholders change their stance about him? It might pay dividents over the summer if we attract some stellar names that without him we would only have dreamed of getting. Remains to be seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    I'd rather have a modest transfer budget this summer and stick with Kroenke that make our bed with Usmanov and be buggered in a few years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    DenMan wrote: »
    That's very true man. Same thing applied to Chelsea when Roman went there. Nobody was asking about his fortune, and how he acquired it...just what it could get them.

    I am very impressed with Kroenke and his plans. That academy set up in Denver, CO looks great. If Usmanov pours money into the club, will the existing shareholders change their stance about him? It might pay dividents over the summer if we attract some stellar names that without him we would only have dreamed of getting. Remains to be seen.

    I doubt it. Usmanov's move for Arsenal reeks of a PR stunt. Him saying the right things to the press at the right time seems completely out of character, he's normally very secretive and withdrawn. I'd say Arsenal to him is nothing but a way of raising his profile in the western world to make inroads elsewhere for his investment companies.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger's leadership will be scrutinised tomorrow when he addresses shareholders at a question-and-answer session.

    Wenger is scheduled to attend the meeting and will have to field questions on another trophyless campaign, with the club's last silverware being the 2005 FA Cup.

    The Frenchman has appeared defensive about his methods at the Emirates Stadium but it is understood there are hopes he will echo the sentiments of chief executive Ivan Gazidis, who spoke to the Arsenal Supporters Trust (AST) earlier in the week.

    AST members were impressed with Gazidis' approach to moving the club forward after finishing fourth in the Premier League.

    "I am not happy where we ended up but I am pleased we are disappointed by it," Gazidis said.

    "There are other clubs who would feel this is a good position. Or we could say in December 'if someone had said we'd have been in this position then we would have bitten their hands off'.

    "So why aren't we feeling great about it? The answer is because we have higher expectations.

    "But this is not a situation where we should be over-reactive and feel that we are in crisis. We are not. We have a team with an average age of 23 or 24 that went to the Champions League semi-finals and is going to get better.

    "Does it need to be supplemented? Quite possibly but it is a very, very promising situation for the next four or five years.

    "So right now I think it is important to have some perspective and be brutally realistic with ourselves - but not only on the negative side but the positive side as well."

    Wenger has suggested that he will not go on a summer spending spree to change Arsenal's fortunes.

    It appears there will not be many changes behind the scenes either as the club released a statement to insist assistant boss Pat Rice is not considering retirement.

    "He remains a key part of Arsene Wenger's backroom staff," the statement read.

    Wenger's plans are to bring one or two players to the club, rather than make radical changes.

    The 59-year-old said: "Certainly we will try to strengthen the squad in the summer, we will look to bring in one or two players.

    "We are prepared to spend the necessary money to get the players we want, but the size of the player is not always linked with the size of the money you spend.

    "Once we identify the player we want, we will spend the money we need to."

    Wenger expects his side to bounce back from the disappointment of getting knocked out of the Champions League and FA Cup at the semi-final stage.

    He added: "I remain confident we can win silverware next season, and that is why we will continue to work hard, but we will naturally progress if we keep going.

    "When you are a competitor, you get up the next day (after defeat) and you feel you will not let that happen again - that is exactly the same for the players.

    "If you do not want to fight, you are in the wrong job. Competition demands strong people, otherwise you should go and do something else."

    Meanwhile, AST are cautious about reports Alisher Usmanov, the Gunners' second-highest stakeholder, could be ready to help the club pay off some of their debt.

    "We would need to see more detailed proposals and understand how it is being discussed with the board," said an AST spokesperson.

    "We've always said that we would welcome all shareholders working together for the benefit of the club."

    Source:: http://breakingnews.ie/sport/trophyless-wenger-to-face-arsenal-shareholders-410632.html

    Assume just a lecturer rather then anything serious to come out of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭Fuzzy_Dunlop


    I like Gazidis. He seems to be fairly on the ball and straightforward with his dealings. He should do a good job of helping to send us in the right direction.

    He also had this to say on the official website
    “He is not closed-minded,” the 44-year-old told a meeting of the Arsenal Supporters Trust this week.

    “The idea that Arsène Wenger is some stubborn guy who is not open to having his ideas challenged and there is nobody there who can say ‘listen we need someone with experience in the middle of the park or at the back’ just isn’t true.

    “He is asking questions of himself all the time and talking to people all the time. He does not believe he has all the answers and I see that as one of his strengths.

    “'He is not someone who takes the easy route to protect himself. He will place the protection of his players above that.

    “He is not going to go out and say ‘this guy is not good enough’ or ‘this is where we are weak’. He has the ability to make difficult decisions when they have to be made, but until then, he protects and supports the players he has.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    I'd like to see Wenger give some of the younger players in the team a chance to play as a showpiece occasion on Saturday for them now that we have nothing to play for.

    Something like:

    Mannone/Fabianski

    ---Eboue
    Djourou
    Song
    Gibbs---

    Walcott/Merida
    Ramsey
    Denilson
    Arshavin

    Bendtner
    Vela


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,138 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Frisbee wrote: »
    I'd like to see Wenger give some of the younger players in the team a chance to play as a showpiece occasion on Saturday for them now that we have nothing to play for.

    Something like:

    Mannone/Fabianski

    ---Eboue
    Djourou
    Song
    Gibbs---

    Walcott/Merida
    Ramsey
    Denilson
    Arshavin

    Bendtner
    Vela
    No way. Play a full strenght team. We have no positional change to play for but it's a chance to beat Utd, and beating would prevent them from lifting the league at home. That alone should be incentive to go for the win.


    Spite is a powerful emotion.


    Al


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    OPENROAD wrote: »

    Mirror sports reporters theory, lesson 1

    AC Milan try to sign Adebayor
    Ancelotti manager of AC Milan
    Ancelotti linked with Chelsea job
    Adebayor to sign for Chelsea

    Makes sense to me :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    itsjaybud wrote: »
    An ole rumour as to who could be looking for Adebayor's services next season!

    Took a few weeks but the mirror finally got the story together!
    Some how i dont think it will be happening!!!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Quazzie wrote: »
    No way. Play a full strenght team. We have no positional change to play for but it's a chance to beat Utd, and beating would prevent them from lifting the league at home. That alone should be incentive to go for the win.


    Spite is a powerful emotion.


    Al

    I'd rather United win it than Liverpool tbf.
    Plus, as you've said, nothing to play for, may aswell blood some youth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭DenMan


    3 tankings in a row...I don't think I could take that. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,475 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Blooding youth at Old Trafford when United are playing the the league would be stupid.

    They'd get destroyed, it ain't gonna do their development any good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,054 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Frisbee wrote: »
    I'd rather United win it than Liverpool tbf.
    Plus, as you've said, nothing to play for, may aswell blood some youth

    Regardless, do you really want to see them parading the trophy and celebrating after playing us? I think they'll definitely win it, but it's more exciting if it's on the last day of the season anyway!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    Blooding youth at Old Trafford when United are playing the the league would be stupid.

    They'd get destroyed, it ain't gonna do their development any good.

    +1

    Full strength team has to start, obviously playing the squad players would greatly improve our chances of getting even more a hiding than we have recently from them!

    Play our strongest 11 and hopefully get a good result and finish the season with some sort of positive actions! Beating the champions to be twice in the EPL is something to hold onto!!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    First possible summer signing, and guess what he is 16 :p

    From Setanta website
    Arsenal line up £1.3 million Argentine

    Arsene Wenger will trial a new young Argentine goalkeeper who stands to cost Arsenal £1.3 million.

    Damian Martinez of Independiente is preparing to spend a week at The Gunners’ training ground, where he will look to make the same impression on Wenger as he did on Arsenal’s scouts.

    At just 16 years of age, Arsenal have already reportedly agreed a fixed £1.3 million deal should they decide to sign the keeper, who is an Argentina Under-17 international.

    Wenger is on the lookout for new goalkeeping talent, having seen Lukasz Fabianski endure a torrid time over recent weeks, and Martinez is ready to grab hold of his dream.

    "When I was told that I was going to have a trail at Arsenal I thought that someone was joking," he told Radio Rivadavia.

    "In fact, I thought that they were talking about Arsenal de Sarandi, the team called like that but that plays in Argentina."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,138 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Evil_Clown wrote: »
    First possible summer signing, and guess what he is 16 :p

    From Setanta website
    Could this be another Edu-esque f*ck up where he was actually meant to be going to the Arsenal in Argentina but somehow ended up on a plance to England?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Could this be another Edu-esque f*ck up where he was actually meant to be going to the Arsenal in Argentina but somehow ended up on a plance to England?

    Hope not becuse we have already agreed a fee unless we are buying players for both Arsenals, maybe thats why we are broke :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Could this be another Edu-esque f*ck up where he was actually meant to be going to the Arsenal in Argentina but somehow ended up on a plance to England?

    :D
    I'll take it if he's any use


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    I see plenty of reasons to play a full-strength side on Saturday. In no particular order:

    - to be fair to the title race
    - to try and beat United
    - to try and end the season on a high note of sorts
    - to try and forget about the two-leg pasting we've just taken
    - to always have a good chance of a win (this wouldn't be like resting players against Stoke the following week, should Wenger choose to do so).

    And I don't see any major need to rest players as it's not a Euro/World Cup/Olympic/Copa America year - with the exception of a few internationals and maybe Walcott playing with the U-21s, the players will have a full summer's rest.

    So the only reason to blood new players is (a) if it's the right environment for them to gain experience (I don't think it is) or (b) if we're really so scared sh*tless of getting beaten by a very good team that we opt out completely, which I don't think is the right thing to do at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    gosplan wrote: »
    Great, he's worth at least 60 million ;)
    I'd be tempted by 10m + Anelka I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/rosicky-i-was-nervous-before-first-session

    Please just sit in a padded room and not move all summer. Please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Frisbee wrote: »
    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/rosicky-i-was-nervous-before-first-session

    Please just sit in a padded room and not move all summer. Please?

    harsh :D

    in fairness to him, he seems to be trying awful hard. you know it kills him to be on the sidelines, and there aren't many who'd be willing to forgo a summer holiday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Souless


    Frisbee wrote: »
    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/rosicky-i-was-nervous-before-first-session

    Please just sit in a padded room and not move all summer. Please?

    Lol yeah we really really could do with his help! Someone get the cotton wool ;)


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