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UK pub finds smoking ban loophole.

  • 13-05-2009 03:37PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    The landlady of a pub has exploited a loophole in the country's smoking ban by opening a "smoking research centre" where drinkers can light up legally, reports said Wednesday.

    Locals at the Cutting Edge pub in Barnsley, northern England, must fill in a questionnaire on their smoking habits to satisfy legal requirements before sitting down for a drink and a cigarette in the centre.

    England and Wales introduced a ban on smoking in enclosed public places in 2007, contributing to tumbling beer sales which have forced over 2,000 pubs to close in the last year, according to the British Beer And Pub Association.

    The Cutting Edge's landlady Kerry Fenton opened the centre, which is a separate room in her pub, five days ago.

    "It's given business a shot in the arm and it's all in the name of research, legal and above board," she told the Sun newspaper. "I'm a non-smoker but I believe in the freedom of the individual."

    The loophole in the law was discovered by pub regular James Martin, a 40-year-old printer. The local council told the paper it intended to enforce the smoking ban at the pub.

    Smoking research centre eh? Would love to see some pub try that one here. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    I'm just suprised it this long for a loophole to be found.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    I hear even their cigarette machine has multiple choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    fckn top idea !! It looks like some of the 'Irish chancer psyche' is finally rubbing off on the brits after 700 years !! :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    Next: In clubs - Drug Research Centre


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The loophole in the law was discovered by pub regular James Martin, a 40-year-old printer
    Haven't seen a dot matrix in years.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Next: In clubs - Drug Research Centre

    Brothels- 'Sex Research Center' :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    apparantly you can smoke these electronic cigarette thingys quite legally in pubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,590 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I wonder if it would sustain business though. I'd imagine non-smokers have gotten quite used to smokeless pubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    apparantly you can smoke these electronic cigarette thingys quite legally in pubs.

    Technically you can smoke herbal ciggies in public places here.
    o_O
    I'm away to get me rasta hat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    RATM wrote: »
    Brothels- 'Sex Research Center' :D
    Next: In clubs - Drug Research Centre

    The Dail - Special Needs Research Centre :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Haven't seen a dot matrix in years.

    40yo? Pffft! More like a daisy-wheel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I'd imagine non-smokers have gotten quite used to smokeless pubs.

    they've also gotten used to taking up space in the smoking area/beer garden on sunny afternoons, unfortunately.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭chrisp2281


    That's brilliant. what an idea. Although it will just be shut down soon. Remember when Johnny foxes got a bus wehich lasted all of about 2 months beciase it was deemed to still be a place of work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    marcsignal wrote: »
    they've also gotten used to taking up space in the smoking area/beer garden on sunny afternoons, unfortunately.:mad:

    Damn those non smokers for going outside and not doing anything to interfere with my life. Let them burn in hell.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    marcsignal wrote: »
    they've also gotten used to taking up space in the smoking area/beer garden on sunny afternoons, unfortunately.:mad:

    You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't...

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    chrisp2281 wrote: »
    That's brilliant. what an idea. Although it will just be shut down soon. Remember when Johnny foxes got a bus wehich lasted all of about 2 months beciase it was deemed to still be a place of work

    actually the reason it was stamped on in the Johnny Foxes case, is that many people wern't smoking tobacco in that bus, otherwise nobody would have bothered kicking up about it, trust me, i have that on good authority.
    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Damn those non smokers for going outside and not doing anything to interfere with my life. Let them burn in hell.
    An File wrote: »
    You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't...

    :rolleyes:

    Hang about guys, there wouldn't be a beer garden in Ireland if it wasn't for this namby pamby law.
    Beer gardens where smokers are forced to sit in the winter months. It reminds me of the freezing experiments they carried out on prisoners in Dachau concentration camp, which isn't surprising, considering this man, the unsung hero of anti-smokers everywhere, introduced the first anti-smoking laws in the world.
    Perhaps militant anti-smokers should drink a toast to him, while they're busy contemplating their handywork, and patting each other on the back. It's because of them that pubs now smell of BO and eggy farts. :p

    "First they came for the smokers,
    but I didn't speak out, because I wasn't a smoker
    Then they came for the meat eaters,
    but I didn't speak out, because I was a vegetarian
    Then they came for the drinkers,
    but I didn't speak out, because i was a tea totaller
    Then they came for me, and i happily blew my own brains out,
    because all the fun people were gone,
    and the world had turned into a namby pamby uber controlling nanny state,
    that wasn't worth living in anymore."
    :pac:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    /thread

    Nice work on Godwinning your own argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    An File wrote: »
    /thread

    Nice work on Godwinning your own argument.

    anti smokers really really really hate the Hitler connection, don't they ? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Damn those non smokers for going outside and not doing anything to interfere with my life. Let them burn in hell.

    They are taking up seats in the beer garden aren't they,anyone would think there was no fresh air in the pub.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Smokers are such whiny little pussies, aren't they?

    "Oh it's sooo cold outside. It's not fair. I might get a chill. My Mammy lets me smoke inside.....blah blah blah"

    God be with the days when smoking was a tough man's game. Now it's all these Fairweather Smokers who couldn't suck it up and be tough if they tried.

    It's cold outside. So what? Toughen up nimrods, put on an extra jumper and go out and be a man.

    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    40yo? Pffft! More like a daisy-wheel.
    Daisy-wheel? You were lucky. In't my day...etc etc.

    I'm still laughing at the poster who said the landlady might lose business...just conjure up some mental before and after pictures of pubs in relation to the smoking ban.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    What I get from this is that smokers are slow. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Haven't seen a dot matrix in years.

    Ha ha ha. Nicely spotted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    marcsignal wrote: »
    anti smokers really really really hate the Hitler connection, don't they ? :D

    Well it's not really relevant. He was an atheist and vegetarian as well, that doesn't mean all atheists and vegetarians are pre-disposed to be fun-hating Nazis. He's just one famous example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Smokers are such whiny little pussies, aren't they?

    "Oh it's sooo cold outside. It's not fair. I might get a chill. My Mammy lets me smoke inside.....blah blah blah"

    God be with the days when smoking was a tough man's game. Now it's all these Fairweather Smokers who couldn't suck it up and be tough if they tried.

    It's cold outside. So what? Toughen up nimrods, put on an extra jumper and go out and be a man.

    :rolleyes:

    sitting outside in November, not moving for 4 hours, coat, or no coat, consuming cold beer, IS cold, not exactly rocket science, is it? even Dr.Mengele knew that.
    What I get from this is that smokers are slow. :pac:

    slow to be bullied by fascist anti smokers, who, incedentally, are packing out pubs now in their tens of thousands since the ban, can't you see them ??? that's why pubs are now doing a roaring trade, and smoking areas are empty.

    Red Meat gives you colon cancer, by the way. So what's next? This?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Hopefully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Well it's not really relevant. He was an atheist and vegetarian as well, that doesn't mean all atheists and vegetarians are pre-disposed to be fun-hating Nazis. He's just one famous example.

    Hitler wasn't an atheist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    marcsignal wrote: »
    sitting outside in November, not moving for 4 hours, coat, or no coat, consuming cold beer, IS cold, not exactly rocket science, is it? even Dr.Mengele knew that.


    From my experience most normal smokers sit inside the majority of the night, and only go outside when they need a smoke.. Hardly counts as sitting outside and not moving for four hours. Don't know what the hell kind of masochistic smokers you hang out with. Probably just want an excuse to complain.

    Anyway, pubs back home in Canada have survived just fine, and we've had the smoking ban in effect for years. And trust me, it gets a lot colder there than Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    marcsignal wrote: »
    sitting outside in November, not moving for 4 hours, coat, or no coat, consuming cold beer, IS cold, not exactly rocket science, is it? even Dr.Mengele knew that.

    THIS JUST IN:

    You don't have to sit outside the whole night! ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    liah wrote: »
    Hitler wasn't an atheist.

    I looked it up and stand corrected. Apologies.




    Great, now I'm all embarassed.


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