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UK pub finds smoking ban loophole.
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13-05-2009 2:37pm#1The landlady of a pub has exploited a loophole in the country's smoking ban by opening a "smoking research centre" where drinkers can light up legally, reports said Wednesday.
Locals at the Cutting Edge pub in Barnsley, northern England, must fill in a questionnaire on their smoking habits to satisfy legal requirements before sitting down for a drink and a cigarette in the centre.
England and Wales introduced a ban on smoking in enclosed public places in 2007, contributing to tumbling beer sales which have forced over 2,000 pubs to close in the last year, according to the British Beer And Pub Association.
The Cutting Edge's landlady Kerry Fenton opened the centre, which is a separate room in her pub, five days ago.
"It's given business a shot in the arm and it's all in the name of research, legal and above board," she told the Sun newspaper. "I'm a non-smoker but I believe in the freedom of the individual."
The loophole in the law was discovered by pub regular James Martin, a 40-year-old printer. The local council told the paper it intended to enforce the smoking ban at the pub.
Smoking research centre eh? Would love to see some pub try that one here.
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Brothels- 'Sex Research Center'Mr. Anderson wrote: »Next: In clubs - Drug Research Centre
The Dail - Special Needs Research Centre :pac:0 -
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chrisp2281 wrote: »That's brilliant. what an idea. Although it will just be shut down soon. Remember when Johnny foxes got a bus wehich lasted all of about 2 months beciase it was deemed to still be a place of work
actually the reason it was stamped on in the Johnny Foxes case, is that many people wern't smoking tobacco in that bus, otherwise nobody would have bothered kicking up about it, trust me, i have that on good authority.Mossy Monk wrote: »Damn those non smokers for going outside and not doing anything to interfere with my life. Let them burn in hell.You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't...
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Hang about guys, there wouldn't be a beer garden in Ireland if it wasn't for this namby pamby law.
Beer gardens where smokers are forced to sit in the winter months. It reminds me of the freezing experiments they carried out on prisoners in Dachau concentration camp, which isn't surprising, considering this man, the unsung hero of anti-smokers everywhere, introduced the first anti-smoking laws in the world.
Perhaps militant anti-smokers should drink a toast to him, while they're busy contemplating their handywork, and patting each other on the back. It's because of them that pubs now smell of BO and eggy farts.
"First they came for the smokers,
but I didn't speak out, because I wasn't a smoker
Then they came for the meat eaters,
but I didn't speak out, because I was a vegetarian
Then they came for the drinkers,
but I didn't speak out, because i was a tea totaller
Then they came for me, and i happily blew my own brains out,
because all the fun people were gone,
and the world had turned into a namby pamby uber controlling nanny state,
that wasn't worth living in anymore."
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marcsignal wrote: »anti smokers really really really hate the Hitler connection, don't they ?
Well it's not really relevant. He was an atheist and vegetarian as well, that doesn't mean all atheists and vegetarians are pre-disposed to be fun-hating Nazis. He's just one famous example.0 -
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marcsignal wrote: »sitting outside in November, not moving for 4 hours, coat, or no coat, consuming cold beer, IS cold, not exactly rocket science, is it? even Dr.Mengele knew that.
THIS JUST IN:
You don't have to sit outside the whole night!
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Hitler wasn't an atheist.
as it happens, it's not widely known, but he wasn't a strict vegetarian either
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I think i should confess here, that I'm kind of playing devils advocate with the militant anti-smokers tbh. I actually don't really have a problem with the ban, and in terms of protecting people who have to work in pubs, it's a law that's a step in the right direction. I've done some dangerous jobs in the past, and was often not issued protective equipment, because my employer was not obliged to do so. So in that respect, it's a good law.
My only real gripe about it is the way it was enforced. A smoking room where staff cannot serve you drinks would have been fair enough imo. If you want to risk smoking, as an individual, thats fair enough, and doesn't compromise ones freedom to choose. So in short, my issue is with lack of freedom to choose, and not undying (or dying) love for cigarettes, after all, even I admit, it's a smelly and unpleasant habit, but i'd like to be able to indulge in it if I want to, without being made feel like a leper.0 -
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From my experience most normal smokers sit inside the majority of the night, and only go outside when they need a smoke.. Hardly counts as sitting outside and not moving for four hours. Don't know what the hell kind of masochistic smokers you hang out with.
well tbh the reason we sit outside because about 95% of the people I drink with, smoke. I don't know them very long, only since the ban, and that's how we all got to know each other. The local has one of the best smoking areas in dublin, no exaggeration, it's a great job, and it's consequently full, all of the time, so if we don't grab ourselves a table, we're splitting the group up unnecessarily. It's easier to just sit outside.
it's definitely not beyond our capability to not smoke for longer periods. Quiz night on thursdays (which we've won 8 weeks in a row. Not bad for people who are apparently 'slow') is one example. we're so distracted, we bearly think about smoking, so it is largely psychological i guess.Probably just want an excuse to complain.
naw, seriously, i'm just playing devils advocate, see post #330 -
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