How much more shtie do we have take from TD's

Blazer · 27-04-2009 09:46AM #1

Hell..I've stopped listening to the news now at this stage or reading papers.
I just get so pissed at what those bastards are milking from this country and attempting to justify it.
The latest now is the 2 cvnts Martin & Hanafin pocketing 3 pensions when they retire.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/ministers-on-8364140000-in-triple-pension-deal-1720661.html

Then I head Cowen saying "that Ireland's response had been "unprecedented in its breadth, its speed and its force".

"I firmly believe history will show that we were among the first countries to recognise the scale of the crisis and to put in place a comprehensive framework for recovery," he said.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/history-will-hail-our-rescue-plan-says-taoiseach-1720697.html

Now I want everyone who vote FF in the last election to find a gun somewhere...do us all a favour and blow your low level of brain cells out of your head.

Heinrich · 27-04-2009 09:50AM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Hell..I've stopped listening to the news now at this stage or reading papers.
I just get so pissed at what those bastards are milking from this country and attempting to justify it.
The latest now is the 2 cvnts Martin & Hanafin pocketing 3 pensions when they retire.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/ministers-on-8364140000-in-triple-pension-deal-1720661.html

Then I head Cowen saying "that Ireland's response had been "unprecedented in its breadth, its speed and its force".

"I firmly believe history will show that we were among the first countries to recognise the scale of the crisis and to put in place a comprehensive framework for recovery," he said.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/history-will-hail-our-rescue-plan-says-taoiseach-1720697.html

Now I want everyone who vote FF in the last election to find a gun somewhere...do us all a favour and blow your low level of brain cells out of your head.

You really don't get it! These ministers are the most competent in the world and are naturally being paid accordingly. We will be getting out of the mess a few short minutes before the next General Election, the country will again be awash with money and we will again be the envy of Europe.

Vote Fianna Fail/Green - vote early and often.

Blazer · 27-04-2009 09:52AM

Heinrich wrote: »

You really don't get it! These ministers are the most competent in the world and are naturally being paid accordingly. We will be getting out of the mess a few short minutes before the next General Election, the country will again be awash with money and we will again be the envy of Europe.

Vote Fianna Fail/Green - vote early and often.

lol....you're probably right

phasers · 27-04-2009 09:53AM

about 4 Courics

shenanigans1982 · 27-04-2009 09:56AM

phasers wrote: »

about 4 Courics

Hello....hello....thats 2 Bono's too much for me.

Lets all just bury our heads in the sand and everything will be ok in a few weeks.

SEPT 23 1989 · 27-04-2009 09:59AM

Heinrich wrote: »

You really don't get it! These ministers are the most competent in the world and are naturally being paid accordingly. We will be getting out of the mess a few short minutes before the next General Election, the country will again be awash with money and we will again be the envy of Europe.

Vote Fianna Fail/Green - vote early and often.

the people will never forgive this government either will their children or grandchildren

Heinrich · 27-04-2009 10:01AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the people will never forgive this government either will their children or grandchildren

FF people will! Every time.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 27-04-2009 10:06AM

Do yourself a favour and don't read the Independent...

Blazer · 27-04-2009 10:08AM

Heinrich wrote: »

FF people will! Every time.

That's the problem.
My workmate is being made redundant next month.
He's being screwed in taxes etc and he has stated that he will vote FF in the next election even though he's been bitching like fcuk about them.
He says his local TD has done a lot for his family.

It's bull**** like this that is getting these people back into power.
People are taking the short term view and how it affects them rather than how it affects the country in the future.
TDs then are more concerned then with their constituents rather than joe soap in another county.

SEPT 23 1989 · 27-04-2009 10:12AM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

That's the problem.
My workmate is being made redundant next month.
He's being screwed in taxes etc and he has stated that he will vote FF in the next election even though he's been bitching like fcuk about them.
He says his local TD has done a lot for his family.

It's bull**** like this that is getting these people back into power.
People are taking the short term view and how it affects them rather than how it affects the country in the future.
TDs then are more concerned then with their constituents rather than joe soap in another county.

I think the situation is so serious now that the majority of people want this shower of corrupt,inept,gombeens banished to opposition for good

Stephen · 27-04-2009 10:19AM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

That's the problem.
My workmate is being made redundant next month.
He's being screwed in taxes etc and he has stated that he will vote FF in the next election even though he's been bitching like fcuk about them.
He says his local TD has done a lot for his family.

It's bull**** like this that is getting these people back into power.
People are taking the short term view and how it affects them rather than how it affects the country in the future.
TDs then are more concerned then with their constituents rather than joe soap in another county.

That's how they roll. A combination of parish pump bolloxology and civil war attitude keeps the ****ers in power.

Blazer · 27-04-2009 10:20AM

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Do yourself a favour and don't read the Independent...

Not just the Indo..all newspapers...Matt Cooper Show...basically any radio show now at this stage.
God I hate those shower of TD bastards...

zootroid · 27-04-2009 10:22AM

I think a hammering in the local elections might get rid of Cowen, and once he goes I think we will be looking at a general election

gerry28 · 27-04-2009 10:33AM

If they manage to cling on to power until the next general election they'll be laughing. They will hand out a few sweeteners and we'll all vote them in again like dopes.

It will be really frightening if they get back in in the next general election after all they have done. I wouldn't bet against it either.

I really hope they get a butchering on the 5th of june.

Kernel · 27-04-2009 10:38AM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Now I want everyone who vote FF in the last election to find a gun somewhere...do us all a favour and blow your low level of brain cells out of your head.

I agree with what you say and how you feel, apart from this part. The problem we have is that nobody else in opposition is any better. Sure, we could give labour / FG a crack of the whip and punish our incompetent current shower - but you're naieve if you think the other fools will do any better. It's politics - all bull****e and looking after numero uno.

Tellox · 27-04-2009 10:40AM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Now I want everyone who vote FF in the last election to find a gun somewhere...do us all a favour and blow your low level of brain cells out of your head.

**** off.

Granted I didn't vote FF, no party would have been able to handle this without it getting messy.

drunkmonkey · 27-04-2009 10:47AM

Kernel wrote: »

The problem we have is that nobody else in opposition is any better.

It dosen't matter if the opposition are no bettter, you don't reward incompetence by leaving them in power and you sure as hell don't pay them 3 pensions when they eventaully feck off...

Kernel · 27-04-2009 11:11AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It dosen't matter if the opposition are no bettter, you don't reward incompetence by leaving them in power and you sure as hell don't pay them 3 pensions when they eventaully feck off...

Yeah but sure I already acknowledged that. A spell in opposition as punishment is what will happen, but the other shower will be no better. That's my point.

Blazer · 27-04-2009 11:36AM

Kernel wrote: »

I agree with what you say and how you feel, apart from this part. The problem we have is that nobody else in opposition is any better. Sure, we could give labour / FG a crack of the whip and punish our incompetent current shower - but you're naieve if you think the other fools will do any better. It's politics - all bull****e and looking after numero uno.

But how do we know that they can't do better? Because FF said so?
I agree it's all bull**** but I think we need to make politicians more accountable and reiterate to them that it's the people that call the shots in Ireland not them.
Let's give FF/Labour a chance and see how they do.
It's like this...they can't do worse than FF if they tried their best.

meditraitor · 27-04-2009 11:41AM

The opposition are no better

Fianna fail propaganda folks- swallow it at your peril

Blazer · 27-04-2009 11:51AM

Tellox wrote: »

**** off.

Granted I didn't vote FF, no party would have been able to handle this without it getting messy.

Did you vote?
Sure it was going to get messy? But the warning signs were in place for the place 5 years but people ignored them, TD's ignored them and Bertie wished these people would die.
Whatever about the people ignoring them but Government should have been putting plans into place to deal with this crisis. What we have now is a series of half assed measures that Joe Soap can come up with in the pub while on the lash.

FR.TED · 27-04-2009 11:52AM

Have to agree --we are being asked to swallow **** from these FF muppets on a daily basis. The thing that really annoys me is none of them can mention the recession without the word global, it is like the serial national policies and decisions have had little impact on the current situation. They would have us believe it is solely because of freddie mae and mac across the water--nonsense. Yes their is an international component, but economists have being warning for years of the unsustainable nature of the property bubble. this government is out of control, their is no confidence in it. Mary coughlan on a trade mission--would you send your business her way???
She is so out of her depth, she will get the bends if she comes up to reality.
The most unfortunate thing about all this, is that fine gael cant capitilise on this===I mean i would love to support them such is my level of discontent with the current bunch, but ENDA KENNY--come on are you serious??? The man always reminds me of the thunderbirds with his rigid movements and mannerisms, and pre rehersed speeches.
evoting, section 23, Anglo Irish, Bertie Aherne, Mary Harney, property prices....a bad dream!!--a nightmare.:eek:

Blazer · 27-04-2009 11:59AM

FR.TED wrote: »

Have to agree --we are being asked to swallow **** from these FF muppets on a daily basis. The thing that really annoys me is none of them can mention the recession without the word global, it is like the serial national policies and decisions have had little impact on the current situation. They would have us believe it is solely because of freddie mae and mac across the water--nonsense. Yes their is an international component, but economists have being warning for years of the unsustainable nature of the property bubble. this government is out of control, their is no confidence in it. Mary coughlan on a trade mission--would you send your business her way???
She is so out of her depth, she will get the bends if she comes up to reality.
The most unfortunate thing about all this, is that fine gael cant capitilise on this===I mean i would love to support them such is my level of discontent with the current bunch, but ENDA KENNY--come on are you serious??? The man always reminds me of the thunderbirds with his rigid movements and mannerisms, and pre rehersed speeches.
evoting, section 23, Anglo Irish, Bertie Aherne, Mary Harney, property prices....a bad dream!!--a nightmare.:eek:

Yep...If FG actually bit the bullet and got rid of Enda then their ratings would shoot up. At this stage Enda's a liability.

Biggins · 27-04-2009 12:43PM

As long as idiots keep electing these pocket lining scum, we, the vast majority will be made to cough up for their lavish wages and lifestyles.

I find it absolutely disgusting that for example The Crumlin Children's hospital in Dublin has been told to cut way down on essential operations on kids because of cost cutting - yet the scum in the Dail are still giving themselves huge wages bonuses on top of their triple pensions, expenses and perks.

If this country is not going to have a revolt - then at least by fcuk, it sure needs one!

Anyone that votes for these money grabbing scum now or in the future must be as thick, blind or stupid as a farmers animal ass.

Kernel · 27-04-2009 12:50PM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

But how do we know that they can't do better? Because FF said so?

Just by judging what they propose, which is by and large worse in terms of taxation. Taxing your way out of a recession doesn't make sense to me.

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Let's give FF/Labour a chance and see how they do.
It's like this...they can't do worse than FF if they tried their best.

You're probably right, and it'll almost certainly happen. However, I don't expect much from the opposition, and I wouldn't be so militant about blaming FF voters for the present mess. It's a sign of the times. Rampant capitalism and the way society has gone means we all lube up and bend over!

Biggins · 27-04-2009 02:21PM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Yep...If FG actually bit the bullet and got rid of Enda then their ratings would shoot up. At this stage Enda's a liability.

Couldn't agree more - Fergus O'Dowd - seriously there is a man that is formidable, strong, seriously professional looking and actually looks and sounds like a world class leader.
If one was to see his tall powerful shape kind standing along side the like's of Obama, the rest of the world would be equally seriously impressed.
If ye have not heard of him, check him out sometime. I (and others) definitely think he is one contender for the leadership to watch.

For the record - I am NOT a F.G. supporter - however I give credit where it is due.

ven0m · 27-04-2009 03:50PM

those who have power will do anything to keep it & those seeking it will do anything to gain it.

Kernel · 27-04-2009 04:06PM

meditraitor wrote: »

Fianna fail propaganda folks- swallow it at your peril

Show me the proposed policies from the opposition which would help? Bearing in mind that proposals are often different to what can be delivered.

ScumLord · 27-04-2009 04:15PM

They really need to try and find a way to put a stop to career politicians. At the moment their only out to save their own careers and are just incapable of looking out for the best interests of the country.

You may argue that you'd be kicking out experienced politicians to replace them with inexperienced people that don't understand the bigger picture but it's not like the current lot have to do any course to become a politician, maybe they should be required to do something along those lines.

Self serving politicians are the downfall of democracy.

27-04-2009 04:19PM

Kernel wrote: »

Show me the proposed policies from the opposition which would help? Bearing in mind that proposals are often different to what can be delivered.

yes as proposals are what you put forward, so opposition can put them forward now and FF vote them down and scavenge them for themselves or wait till their in power or wait till the public get on with them selves and stop supporitng FF in government, if your not prepared to vote agaisnt them you have little right to complain about them.

Im sorry for you but no political party is going to draught a ream of private members bills to have them shot down and stolen by FF because you feel safer with FF.

tv3 · 27-04-2009 04:21PM

Never vote ff again

How much more shtie do we have take from TD's

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