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STYER AUG + C-MAG?

  • 19-04-2009 07:22PM
    #1
    STOP RESISTING
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭


    Does anyone know what type of c-mag if any fits a steyr aug I have found a few but they all seem to be for HKG36's or M4/M16's...would these work with a steyr???

    btw I haven't bought a steyr yet but I was looking at getting the A3 version with the RIS rails.


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  • #2
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    First off, bleugh, cough cough, gack, is that blood?

    Second, no, the only guy I know who has one made it custom himself, they aren't available.


  • #3
    Craigsy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Craigsy


    EVIL!!!!

    Burn the heretic:D:D:D


  • #4
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Stercus Accidit wrote: »
    First off, bleugh, cough cough, gack, is that blood?

    Second, no, the only guy I know who has one made it custom himself, they aren't available.

    I'm tempted to post it....XD


  • #5
    The Master
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 14,324 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Master


    You should talk to "Lethal Bullet" he uses a C-mag on his AUG


  • #6
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Lethal_Bullet wrote: »
    I'm tempted to post it....XD

    Go ahead mate, its your ultimate shame, not mine :D


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  • #7
    kevteljeur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭kevteljeur


    STOP RESISTING wrote: »
    Does anyone know what type of c-mag if any fits a steyr aug I have found a few but they all seem to be for HKG36's or M4/M16's...would these work with a steyr???

    btw I haven't bought a steyr yet but I was looking at getting the A3 version with the RIS rails.

    I have the A3, it's a great piece (as anything from JG these days) but putting a C-mag on an AUG? That's practically flame-baiting in the parts!

    On a serious note, even if you could find one to fit, you'll find that a bullpup-design rifle (receiver behind the trigger) of any type doesn't lend itself to C-mags. You can't comfortably fit around it to grip the handle, and why you would want one for anything other than support roles is up for debate too.

    Get hi-caps or mid-caps. Much more satisfying. And you'd have to mod either your AUG's magwell to take a different mag type or the C-mag itself anyway...


  • #8
    Toasty113
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Toasty113


    Believe me STOP, if you want a Drum mag your gona hav to be prepared to listen to all these people that are quite outspoken of their hatred.
    Drum mags are only commonly available for the G36 series, Mp5 series and M4s or anything that uses their mags.

    If you like bullpups the only bullpup I know of with a practical box mag would be the P90.


  • #9
    NakedDex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    John Madden here, lets review the tape on this play;

    The rookie started out well initially with this move...
    Toasty113 wrote: »
    Believe me STOP

    ...but he seemed to stumble when selling the fake by pulling this off.
    Toasty113 wrote: »
    If you like bullpups the only bullpup I know of with a practical box mag would be the P90.

    Whatever he did next is anyone's guess as both the opposing team and his own team turned against him and destroyed him.
    Let's go to our reporter on the endzone to get a comment from one of the players.

    Hi John, I'm here with Asante Samuel. Asante, have you any comment on what happened to turn everyone against him so violently?
    Yes I do Bill; Horf. Spew. Reak. Cough. Splutter. Barf.
    Well thanks Asante, back to you John



    No, seriously. Box mags on a P90? That's actually worse than box mags on a Steyr. Jesus wept.


  • #10
    weeder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    sigh, i see where this failure of a thread is going. the only way to get a cmag for your aug in airsoft is to make one, lethal did, it looks kinda nice on it but thats neither here nor there. if you want to do it then do it and dont listen to the haters :D


  • #11
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Whats worse than a box mag on a p90, hmm, a c-mag on an mp7?


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  • #12
    Genghiz Cohen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    Seen a real steel one for a glock.
    Anything is possible if you have no self respect!


  • #13
    Toasty113
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Toasty113


    Welcome to the wonderful world of box mags Mr. Stop, where people go on about how much they hate them and dont give a reasoned argument. And are you completly new to Airsoft or do you have a reasonable knowledge of what your doing?



    Note: I say Mr. Stop as my previous use of the word stop was misinterpreted as telling you not to get a drum mag


  • #14
    NakedDex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    The reasoned argument has been done to death. A quick forum search will bring it up among numerous threads. At this stage box mags have become the universal aisoft joke (with the obvious exception of actual support guns).


  • #15
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Even then, m249 or not, 3000 bbs is not proportional to the gun its emulating.

    The sooner there is an easy way to get a mid cap box or drum the better, and regarding the logical argument? At this stage, people should be able to get why having an electric hose is a stupid way to play a military simulation game, regardless of ammo limits, a drum and aeg becomes a single object, purely designed to saturate a target.


  • #16
    NakedDex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    There is an easy way, use a mid cap. M249's take standard STANAG mags. I had brilliant craic running around with a handful of 100 round mids for my 249 before. It's even lighter, quieter and less bulky.


  • #17
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    But what about milsims? Getting an electric drum to run real capacity is more hassle than its worth.

    I want a mid cap drum, a big moulded lump, with 75, 100, 200 bb's depending on model.

    Then c-mags could actually hold 100 rounds, maybe jam a bit for realism, and good luck to the lad who think one is handier to carry than 3 stanags!


  • #18
    NakedDex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    I have a design in mind, if I ever get around to getting a spring custom made for my follower I'll finish it.


  • #19
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Yeah, the spring company I was on to needed some actual newton figures for the spring, which I didn't have time to look into.

    I want mid cap drums!


  • #20
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,497 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Anyone listen to the recent Opsec airsoft podcast?

    They were talking about this exact issue,and called for a midcap box mag.

    A box mag on anything other than a support gun is a universal joke and it destroys the game.

    Think that's a pretty valid reason


  • #21
    cherubaul
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭cherubaul


    best of luck with the C-mag project hope it goes well.
    @ lethal I don't suppose ypu could send me a tutorial on how you refitted a c mag to fit the AUG would like to do similar to a drum mag for my H-BAR.

    as for the C-mag being a universal joke on anything but a support gun several of the better equipped teams including at least 1 from this forum were using Drum magazines in AK rifles to simulate support gunning including yesterday and lo and behold there has been no grumbling about it across 2 forums.
    MG 36 is a support gun there fore C-mag = OK
    M16 longer barreled more ungainly to wield and heavier when it has metal body but yet C-mag = NOT OK as its an infantry mans rifle doesnt make sense.
    theres a definite problem in the logic there. this is not military re-enactment its a game, doesnt need to be accurate. AND as proved yesterday and countless times before it doesnt make that much if any difference to game dynamics. I remember an established member of this forum lambasting C-mags and their tactical short comings eg rattle, cumbersome, the list went on so i dont see the problem they provided as much challenges and disadvantages for the user as they did advantages.

    everything else is just either snobbery or unadulterated personal bias.

    I think it depends on barrel length and ungainly ness rather than pure realism
    Beta made C-mags for a reason y'know. "enhanced firepower for light support weapons". And in airsoft whether you like it or not thats potentially everything.

    again if we want to go real world and discuss high capacity magazines
    numerous russian acquaintances have said that AK drum mags invariably find their way to chechnya for use on standard issue assault rifles as well as The RPK and incidentally the RPK 74 has no drum mag issued.


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  • #22
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,497 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    cherubaul wrote: »
    best of luck with the C-mag project hope it goes well.
    @ lethal I don't suppose ypu could send me a tutorial on how you refitted a c mag to fit the AUG would like to do similar to a drum mag for my H-BAR.

    as for the C-mag being a universal joke on anything but a support gun several of the better equipped teams including at least 1 from this forum were using Drum magazines in AK rifles to simulate support gunning including yesterday and lo and behold there has been no grumbling about it across 2 forums.
    MG 36 is a support gun there fore C-mag = OK
    M16 longer barreled more ungainly to wield and heavier when it has metal body but yet C-mag = NOT OK as its an infantry mans rifle doesnt make sense.
    theres a definite problem in the logic there. this is not military re-enactment its a game, doesnt need to be accurate. AND as proved yesterday and countless times before it doesnt make that much if any difference to game dynamics. I remember an established member of this forum lambasting C-mags and their tactical short comings eg rattle, cumbersome, the list went on so i dont see the problem they provided as much challenges and disadvantages for the user as they did advantages.

    everything else is just either snobbery or unadulterated personal bias.

    I think it depends on barrel length and ungainly ness rather than pure realism
    Beta made C-mags for a reason y'know. "enhanced firepower for light support weapons". And in airsoft whether you like it or not thats potentially everything.

    again if we want to go real world and discuss high capacity magazines
    numerous russian acquaintances have said that AK drum mags invariably find their way to chechnya for use on standard issue assault rifles as well as The RPK and incidentally the RPK 74 has no drum mag issued.

    But see the problem with that whole argument is that RS cmags only carry 1-200 rounds.

    Airsoft cmag/box mags carry 3000 and the barrel doesnt burn out on an airsoft gun so effectively a person cant sit in a ditch hosing another team with his "l33t" m4 and boxmag, fire all 3000 rounds and basically ruin the game.

    I'm all for boxmags on an RPK,M249,M60 etc etc but a guy running around with 3000 round hanging out of a JG Stubby for example is BS.


  • #23
    NakedDex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Edit:

    Screw it, it's been done to death. It's neither relevant nor the place for this discussion. The first responses say it all, and Blay wraps up what the vast majority of us think.

    Do what you want, noone will stop you. Enjoy airsoft.


  • #24
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    This is why people play milsim.

    If you play with a c-mag, all 3000 bb's, and just spray everywhere, you have no respect for your fellow players who paid to play a game, its just self indulgence, and I wouldn't be making friends with such a person to whom the effort and spirit of the game means nothing, and the other players are no more than moving targets to spray wildly at. Its not snobbery, its basic respect.

    Airsoft is dividing, theres milsim, regular games, and sh1tsoft, with more polarisation of both extremes, and the people who play them.


  • #25
    weeder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    Blay wrote: »
    But see the problem with that whole argument is that RS cmags only carry 1-200 rounds.

    Airsoft cmag/box mags carry 3000 and the barrel doesnt burn out on an airsoft gun so effectively a person cant sit in a ditch hosing another team with his "l33t" m4 and boxmag, fire all 3000 rounds and basically ruin the game.

    I'm all for boxmags on an RPK,M249,M60 etc etc but a guy running around with 3000 round hanging out of a JG Stubby for example is BS.

    i would call a stupidly high rof setup stupid and unrealistic yet there is no stigma attached to this,


  • #26
    kevteljeur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭kevteljeur


    weeder wrote: »
    i would call a stupidly high rof setup stupid and unrealistic yet there is no stigma attached to this,


    I second that. I've disowned my 12v battery. It's not cricket.


  • #27
    NakedDex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Define "stupidly high" rate of fire?


  • #28
    Rhinocharge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    NakedDex wrote: »
    Define "stupidly high" rate of fire?

    When your monthly usage of bb's cost more than the initial cost of your gun. ;)


  • #29
    Masada
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    high ROF isn't any more unrealistic simply because you are using the same amount of ammo as everyone else. most of my guns are firing around 22-23rps yet i dont actually go through that much ammo. In a way higher ROF is more realistic because you have a much faster trigger response as aposed to the whirrrrrr-Snap of lower setups. its nice to pull the trigger and have a shot instantly go off. :)


  • #30
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    I'm packing decent rof, I still fire in 3 round bursts, just my semi responce is better, and if I decide to empty a 30 round mag in one go, fair play to me, I've used up one eighth of my ammo limit already, like an eejit.


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  • #31
    Frank the Manc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Frank the Manc


    NakedDex wrote: »
    Define "stupidly high" rate of fire?

    well most RS Jam 4s fire at a rate of 600-800 rpm, the old micro uzis used to be circa 950 rpm, totally excessive, so much so that the later modes had tungsten weights fited to the bolt.

    so if youre talking realism, anything over 16 rounds per second is ridicously fast.

    but this is airsoft, where we dont have rifled barrels, recoil(worth talking about) over heating, excessive magazine weight ect., so some realism has to be sacrificed for the sake of practicallity.

    that said i despise even wind ups, never mind drum mags, but if some one wants to use them let them off, its not some magical power.

    its never going to make up for lack of tactics or how you apply the gun its self.


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