Paul Williams interview on Tubridy.

boycey · 12-04-2009 11:58AM

zudo wrote: »

He's not brave at all. The biggest mistake organised criminals ever made in this country was the assassination of Veronica Guerin, which led to the setting up of the Criminal Assets Bureau. Williams knows this damn well, and he's the safest man in the country.

He glorifies these gang lords by giving them names like 'The Penguin', 'Mr Big' and brings them to the public's awareness and thus makes them even more fearful characters, hence there recent venture in debt collections from ordinary joe soaps.

Williams have profited more than anyone from organised crime.

Agreed to an extent, but then Williams is a journalist and author, and of course he profits from his trade. Just like me and every other employee out there.
However, it's his intent on bringing these scumbags and their deeds into the public eye which wins my respect, and for that I do believe he's a brave man. To call anyone 'the safest man in the country' when it comes to dealing with these thugs just does'nt wash with me, I dont believe anyone is safe, its like swimming with sharks.
Poor Veronica Guerin and her family paid the ultimate price for her deeds, deeds which were very much known to both the public and the Gardaí. Didnt stop her getting killed though.

Dyr · 12-04-2009 02:40PM

li@mo wrote: »

He was saying Dermot Ahern is trying to bring in a law to protect peoples privacy in the media. He didnt go into the details but he said it will bring an end to him naming criminals in his reports.

Yeah imagine that, if a law was passed that stopped him publishing whatever unsubstantiated horse s***te his informants in the gardai feed him with zero proof.

I reckon this country would collapse into criminal anarchy within the week without brave paul reynolds exposés...

The Pontiac · 12-04-2009 03:22PM

boycey wrote: »

Agreed to an extent, but then Williams is a journalist and author, and of course he profits from his trade. Just like me and every other employee out there.
However, it's his intent on bringing these scumbags and their deeds into the public eye which wins my respect, and for that I do believe he's a brave man. To call anyone 'the safest man in the country' when it comes to dealing with these thugs just does'nt wash with me, I dont believe anyone is safe, its like swimming with sharks.
Poor Veronica Guerin and her family paid the ultimate price for her deeds, deeds which were very much known to both the public and the Gardaí. Didnt stop her getting killed though.

Yes but Veronica Guerin was a real crime reporter, an extremely brave woman who exposed crime lords and their evil deeds, which at the time was not known to the general public.

This is very much unlike Williams who is now a crime expert in the 'Limereck Underworld', even the dogs in the streets know the names of these thugs.

I just find the whole 'profiting' of crime, from writing several books, a bit sickening. It's one thing writing for the rag 'The Sunday World', but having best books on these scumbags is very distateful IMO.

boycey · 12-04-2009 04:27PM

zudo wrote: »

Yes but Veronica Guerin was a real crime reporter, an extremely brave woman who exposed crime lords and their evil deeds, which at the time was not known to the general public.

This is very much unlike Williams who is now a crime expert in the 'Limereck Underworld', even the dogs in the streets know the names of these thugs.

I just find the whole 'profiting' of crime, from writing several books, a bit sickening. It's one thing writing for the rag 'The Sunday World', but having best books on these scumbags is very distateful IMO.

I genuinely dont see where you can draw a line between the two, and somehow label Veronica Guerin a 'real' and brave crime reporter but Paul Williams distasteful? Their chosen field is/was the Irish criminal underworld, and both get/got well paid for it I'm sure. One has picked up where the other (unfortunately) left off as far as I can see.

@Bambi - we're talking about Paul Williams here, not Paul Reynolds.

Savman · 12-04-2009 04:54PM

You have to respect the work Paul Williams does, who cares if he gets well paid for it the risks involved are off the scale. Kudos to the man tbh.

'Safest man in the country' me arse, pathetic comment. Some people are in denial about Gangland Ireland :rolleyes:

The Pontiac · 12-04-2009 05:05PM

boycey wrote: »

I genuinely dont see where you can draw a line between the two, and somehow label Veronica Guerin a 'real' and brave crime reporter but Paul Williams distasteful? Their chosen field is/was the Irish criminal underworld, and both get/got well paid for it I'm sure. One has picked up where the other (unfortunately) left off as far as I can see.

@Bambi - we're talking about Paul Williams here, not Paul Reynolds.

Well I don't think money was the motivating factor in Vieronica Guerin's case, unlike Williams who seems to love the 'hard man' image, writing best-selling books on characters he so readily labels 'Mr this that and the other'.

Veronica Guerin single-handedly exposed some of the Country's biggest drug barons, as opposed to Williams telling us about the Keane and Ryan families in Limerick and how crazy these guys are.

HouseHippo · 12-04-2009 05:43PM

tony1kenobi wrote: »

I didn't see it. I was busy living my life.

Mr McCarthy Dundon?

HouseHippo · 12-04-2009 05:45PM

He said what bar he was gonna be in tonight...

UrbanSea · 12-04-2009 05:51PM

Darragh29 wrote: »

That was the worst interview I have ever seen on a TV screen. Tubridy had absolutely no interest in the subject matter, typical of the toffee nosed privileged smarmy git that Tubridy is. He even suggested that if Williams actually wanted to do some good, why did he not join the Gardai??? Williams looked visibly bewildered by such a stupid and woodenheaded remark.

Bad and all as Pat Kenny is, at least on a serious subject like this, he would have gotten the approch right. Tubridy hasn't a f*cking clue how to do an interview, how on earth the guy has a show of his own, it something I'll never understand. His show all tonight was full of rediculous smutty sexual remarks with an intended double meaning that were absolutely cringeworthy, it's no wonder his wife left him.

Ah I couldnt agree more.
I love reading paul williams in the paper and even in his books,this wasnt the first time I worry about him,I know I wouldnt be writing half of the things he did.
I cant understand why he would go on Tubridy,with such a twat making a light hearted view on everything.I dont see humour in gang feuds which recently took away a father from his fiancee and two kids cos he stood up to them.
'Why did he not join the Gardai?'
Shut up Ryan.

HouseHippo · 12-04-2009 06:00PM

greetings wrote: »

Ah I couldnt agree more.
I love reading paul williams in the paper and even in his books,this wasnt the first time I worry about him,I know I wouldnt be writing half of the things he did.
I cant understand why he would go on Tubridy,with such a twat making a light hearted view on everything.I dont see humour in gang feuds which recently took away a father from his fiancee and two kids cos he stood up to them.
'Why did he not join the Gardai?'
Shut up Ryan.

He is too busy living his privilaged,socalite life, hanging out in Krystal and drinking champers with his well to do pals. He is too busy absorbed in his own little world to have any sympathy or understanding, and he proves this by posing such a question in such a sarcastic "i know better than you" tone. Just because it doesn't affect him or his friends he pretends its not a problem.
His assistant prob gets his high lclass coke for him,lollypop armed git!

lostexpectation · 12-04-2009 06:27PM

people keep praising williams becuase he's been threatened by criminals, that nothing to be impressed by, thats what criminals do, it doesn't mean he's good at his job, as said on p.ie, good journalism didn't kill veronica geurin one of gilligans hired thugs did.

Red Sleeping Beauty · 12-04-2009 11:23PM

Birdie086 wrote: »

Didnt see it but had a feeling he would trot out the Keane(cane for those in Limerick)etc routine

But ya he is brave, can ye remember the bomb outside his house a few years ago. Scary stuff

It was hardly as dramatic as a big bomb sitting outside his house. The media milked that one good.

ynotdu · 13-04-2009 04:58AM

Savman wrote: »

You have to respect the work Paul Williams does, who cares if he gets well paid for it the risks involved are off the scale. Kudos to the man tbh.

'Safest man in the country' me arse, pathetic comment. Some people are in denial about Gangland Ireland :rolleyes:

savman no offense meant to you,Williams does not deserve the publicity he gets.

His family and neighbours do not deserve the danger He puts them in,also by his own admission he was a wild teenager,his family had the money&he was clevour enough to educate himself ,unlike many now dead from drugs or organised crime who were not "lucky" enough from non supportive backgrounds.

WHIP IT! · 13-04-2009 08:06AM

ynotdu wrote: »

Nobody mentioned that williams explained He calls his latest money seller for the sunday world the don,so as his readers would know which particulor scumbag of the many he is talking about at anytime.

We have had the General,the viper dutchy etc by that shower in the sunday world.

If my photo was published under the name the don I recken i would walk out the front door of my house with an arrogant swagger,if however my photo appeared beside the headline:drug smuggling murdering scumbag from ? adress,i would most likely shamefully&dressed in black hop over back walls under cover of darkness.

Williams&the sunday world did not create these sh1tes,but by putting alluring names on them they boosted them in the eyes of many young people&made them figures of awe instead of contempt.

Williams in my opinion is no hero,self publicest.reckless to his family safety&more

Sunday world would do almost anything to sell copy I reckon,in the same way I believe the editor of the sunday indo should have given Veronica another brief after she had her baby,or at least after she had been shot in the leg:mad:

Selfless journalism or self serving(selfish to their family)journalism.?
I am not sugesting that the press should cower in fear of scum,i am suggesting they be cleveror than the maggots,newspaper editors please note:(

A great, great post...

God forbid, if Paul Williams was in fact murdered by one of the thugs he writes about, he would be called a "hero", he's have a plaque beside Ms Guerin's in Talbot St, no doubt... but all the hero headlines in the world won't give his wife her husband back, his kids their father back or put food on the table for his family.

I think there is certainly a massive selfish aspect to his work - our first duty in life is to our children and our family, I believe.

chillywilly · 13-04-2009 12:20PM

Tubridy and Williams......both gobsheens in my eyes

Aidric · 13-04-2009 01:04PM

If Tubridy is smarmy then Williams is at the next level. The state of him in that interview, he failed to make a single point without laughing to himself mid sentence in a knobhead know it all way. He writes for a rag and as someone else pointed out he has profited more than most from organised crime. For this reason his faux sentiments of resignation at how bad things have become don't wash with me.

jimmycrackcorm · 13-04-2009 01:12PM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

A great, great post...

God forbid, if Paul Williams was in fact murdered by one of the thugs he writes about, he would be called a "hero", he's have a plaque beside Ms Guerin's in Talbot St, no doubt... but all the hero headlines in the world won't give his wife her husband back, his kids their father back or put food on the table for his family.

I think there is certainly a massive selfish aspect to his work - our first duty in life is to our children and our family, I believe.

So only single people should be allowed to join an army then?

spadder · 13-04-2009 01:20PM

Darragh29 wrote: »

I thought the same myself until someone I know who works in RTE told me what a condasending smarmy pr*ck he is. Then the more I looked at him, the more I could see what this RTE employee was pointing at. Then I had to listen to Tubridy's brother, http://garretttubridy.ie/ for 2 minutes once, who is inflicting himself on the constituency of Pembroke/Rathmines in the June Local elections and he was an even more pompus sap than his brother.

Jesus if this guy gets elected I'll f*cking shoot myself, I'm serious. Check out his website here, you'd feel sick reading it, the guy is completely and utterly removed from reality. The country is in a depression now and he wants the local authority to organise tea parties for the residents of Rathmines...

http://garretttubridy.ie/

Tubs is a FF lick arse, see how quickly he changed the subject when Williams was criticising the government.
I complained to RTE about this on Friday night.

If the little FF patsy gets the Late Late, that will be the end of political debate on the show, Kenny for all his faults, still chairs a good debate.

voice your displeasure here:

complaints@rte.ie

overmantle · 13-04-2009 01:38PM

I find Tubridy entertaining and more at the light side of entertainment. I never feel apprehensive when he's interviewing guests in the way I would when Pat Kenny interviews guests with whom he is clearly not comfortable.
Having said all that, Tubridy getting involved in anything political is a bit of a no no. His uncles (The Andrews, who were not at the dodgy side of FF, it should be said) were both heavily involved in Fianna Fail, as are his first cousins. It has shown, on a few occasions. The most important ability for any interviewer, no matter what political affiliations they may have, is to try to remain neutral. I agree with an earlier poster- Kenny is better at that and that's why he is a better interviewer at serious subjects , while Tubridy is better sticking to the very light entertainment.

SEPT 23 1989 · 13-04-2009 01:38PM

Mr Tubridy came to the attention of the Fianna Fail machine as a cub reporter on childrens tv,one night as he was skipping home to Dalkey he was approached by a Councillor Slugworth who whispered something quietly in his ear,a dark smile appeared on young Tubridys face and since then its been an unstoppable race to the top for Ryan and by the end of the summer he will have secured the top spot in Irish television....

The Fianna Fail machine always wins

WHIP IT! · 13-04-2009 01:47PM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

So only single people should be allowed to join an army then?

I'd appreciate if you re-read my post and pointed out the part where I said only single people should be allowed join the army.

Many Thanks

Savman · 13-04-2009 01:49PM

ynotdu wrote: »

savman no offense meant to you,Williams does not deserve the publicity he gets.

His family and neighbours do not deserve the danger He puts them in,also by his own admission he was a wild teenager,his family had the money&he was clevour enough to educate himself ,unlike many now dead from drugs or organised crime who were not "lucky" enough from non supportive backgrounds.

All I'm saying is not liking the guy is not reason enough to ignore the work he does. People bringing his background into it like it means anything, that just takes focus off the people he writes about. He writes some pretty edgy stuff and is stupid brave enough to put his name and face behind it.

You can't be good at that job unless you are a go-getter who doesn't take no for an answer, so he has to have an ego of some sort. I don't think it's fair to give Guerin her dues and in the same breath talk down someone in the same dangerous field. I appreciate the lengths Williams goes to and I really hope he's not immortalized in the same way Guerin was.

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Made that up meself :pac:

nogoodnamesleft · 13-04-2009 01:49PM

Dont think williams is a target of the underworld, if he was to turn up dead it would bring unbelieveable attention from gardai due to outrage from the public similar to what happened to Veronica Guerin. There was suspicion from within the gardai during the time the hoax bomb was found under his car outside his home as this event coinceided with the release of one of his books at the time.

thelordofcheese · 13-04-2009 01:52PM

greetings wrote: »

'Why did he not join the Gardai?'
Shut up Ryan.

Yes, how dare he raise a valid point, the monster!

boycey · 13-04-2009 01:54PM

spadder wrote: »

Tubs is a FF lick arse, see how quickly he changed the subject when Williams was criticising the government.
I complained to RTE about this on Friday night.

If the little FF patsy gets the Late Late, that will be the end of political debate on the show, Kenny for all his faults, still chairs a good debate.

voice your displeasure here:

complaints@rte.ie

Im impressed, a man of action Spadder.

So the general consensus is Tubridy is a smarm, and not the best host either. I've no quarrel there.
However, like or loathe Williams I still think he's a brave man and an entertaining guest. So he's a 'knobhead know it all' - so what? He's a journalist, not a saint.
If he opens the eyes of the public to the sheer extent of the problem that the Gardaí are facing, and in the process makes life that little bit harder for the seemingly invincible scum out there then I say fair play Mr Williams.

spadder · 13-04-2009 02:05PM

boycey wrote: »

Im impressed, a man of action Spadder.

So the general consensus is Tubridy is a smarm, and not the best host either. I've no quarrel there.
However, like or loathe Williams I still think he's a brave man and an entertaining guest. So he's a 'knobhead know it all' - so what? He's a journalist, not a saint.
If he opens the eyes of the public to the sheer extent of the problem that the Gardaí are facing, and in the process makes life that little bit harder for the seemingly invincible scum out there then I say fair play Mr Williams.

:oIt was nothing really,

On a serious note though, If Mr. Williams stands up to dangerous criminals every day he should have stood up to Tubridy and voiced his opinion about FF.
It's obvious that RTE are afraid of FF
So, is Mr. Williams afraid of FF?

boycey · 13-04-2009 02:11PM

spadder wrote: »

It's obvious that RTE are afraid of FF
So, is Mr. Williams afraid of FF?

There's only so much scum one man can tackle in a lifetime spadders:D

spadder · 13-04-2009 02:21PM

boycey wrote: »

There's only so much scum one man can tackle in a lifetime spadders:D

true, Charles Bronson, Chuck Norris and the magnifcient seven wouldn't take on those scum bags.

Where's Enda Kenny when we need him most?:D

lostexpectation · 13-04-2009 04:00PM

boycey wrote: »

so what? He's a journalist,

he is?

Limerick Dude · 13-04-2009 04:13PM

Savman wrote: »

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Made that up meself :pac:

Sure ya did?

Ever seen the Dark Knight? :rolleyes:

Paul Williams interview on Tubridy.

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