Can we offshore our Prision institution?

stovelid · 31-03-2009 01:56PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

this came from a friend of mine who once spent some time behind bars for a pathetic conviction that he didnt deserve.

Did he manage to escape to the Los Angeles underground in the end?

dublinario · 31-03-2009 02:00PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

my solution - cut the costs of running the places. some of those places are like holiday camps

You've obviously never been to jail homerjay. I remember a place where my bathwater was sometimes tepid, and Radox was often farcically rationed. It's hell in there. I ain't never going back. Not never....

ejmaztec · 31-03-2009 02:10PM

Couldn't they be sent to some landmine infested ex war-zone with a blindfold and a metal poking rod?

dublinario · 31-03-2009 02:14PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Couldn't they be sent to some landmine infested ex war-zone with a blindfold and a metal poking rod?

For murder? Maybe. For traffic violations? At the very least, you'd want to be giving them a far longer poking rod than the murderer was given.

ejmaztec · 31-03-2009 02:24PM

dublinario wrote: »

For murder? Maybe. For traffic violations? At the very least, you'd want to be giving them a far longer poking rod than the murderer was given.

The murderers could give the lesser criminals a piggy-back through the minefield. This scheme wouldn't cost us an arm and a leg either (although the criminals might be short of a limb or two should they survive their little stroll).

RedPlanet · 31-03-2009 02:44PM

Robbo wrote: »

I fully support this proposal so that if someone imprisoned several thousand miles away were to say, appeal their conviction, the righteous hordes of AH would work themselves up into a froth over the cost of transporting this person back securely from Zanzibar or wherever. And then complain about how we aren't giving Irish prisoners to Irish prison officers...

If done correctly, initially the only prisoners moved would be those that have already exhausted their Appeals.
Regardless, technology could provide a work-around
- videotape the prisoner's testimony
- video conference the prisioner

As for posters that suggest Spike Island or Inishvickillane, those are both within the jurisdiction of the RoI, and thereby would negate any financial benefit. There'd be no point.

Bottle of Smoke has the key stumbling issue:

Bit harsh on families who'd have to travel to visit, they didn't do anything wrong.

I thought that way myself, but I figure when weighing the two:
extra-burden-on-family-of-prisoner vs high-cost-of-incarceration-in-Ireland, i think the balance should tip towrd the public good.

Ulysses Gaze · 31-03-2009 03:20PM

Reopen this place:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Island

Perfect. Miles away from humanity.

ejmaztec · 31-03-2009 03:32PM

RedPlanet wrote: »

I thought that way myself, but I figure when weighing the two:
extra-burden-on-family-of-prisoner vs high-cost-of-incarceration-in-Ireland, i think the balance should tip towrd the public good.

In view of the fact that the first line of defence in the dock, is that the felon's upbringing was somehow responsible for their criminal activity, it's only right that their family should be sent with them to some far-flung hell-hole. That would save even more.

talking_walnut · 31-03-2009 03:34PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Reopen this place:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Island

Perfect. Miles away from humanity.

No good. It clearly explains how to escape in the book. Piece of cake....

Lockstep · 31-03-2009 04:23PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

people will protest and use the "human rights" nonsense.

Damn those bleeding hearts and their passion for human rights
*Shakes fist*

Anyone thought about the effect this would have on Irish prison officers?

Once their sentence is done, would they be shipped back home at the taxpayers expense or would it be a repeat of Devil's Island with large amounts of convicts hanging round the prison and unable to return home?

GirlInterrupted · 31-03-2009 05:27PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

will protest and use the "human rights" nonsense.

some of those places are like holiday camps. this came from a friend of mine who once spent some time behind bars for a pathetic conviction that he didnt deserve.

Just as well for your friend, if his conviction was pathetic, that that 'human rights' nonsense is taken into account here, unlike places like China.

Perhaps your friend didn't mind being deprived of his liberty, but most people wouldn't consider that a holiday.

RATM · 31-03-2009 06:27PM

Ive often thought along the same lines as the OP, especially moreso after that prison officer got caught with some weed and a ton of mobile phones for the lads inside. I'd tend to think that that bent screw is only the tip of the iceberg.

Alas though the families of prisoners would take a case on human rights grounds as they would not be able to visit their scummy offspring. I wouldn't have a problem with that except that their kids wouldnt be able to see their scummy fathers grow old in prison. Which would be a tragedy of the highest proportions.

marcsignal · 31-03-2009 06:37PM

you mean a prison ship?*

*that could be accidentally hit by 2 torpedoes 50km off shore

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Fratton Fred · 31-03-2009 06:41PM

if we just stopped all return flights from Gran Canaria/Playa Del Finglas it would amount to the same thing.

Can we offshore our Prision institution?

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