Can we offshore our Prision institution?

RedPlanet · 31-03-2009 11:12AM #1

It costs a lot to keep someone in gaol. According to the last report (2007), it looks like it costs between 90-100K/year. Ireland is an expensive place with inflated wages and an inflated cost of living. I wonder could we find some offshore location where Administering a Prision system would be a lot cheaper.

I'm not talking about sending our citizens to some dark gulag in Siberia. But rather, maintain current standards according to our international obligations (human rights treatys) as we outsource our Prision system to some place like China or India, or some other developing country that is willing.
Basically take the long term prisoners out of Irish gaols and relocate them to a more cost-effective location.
I imagine we could place our own Administers to oversee things (an Irish Gaol in China) but hire local people for prison staff, at local wages, and obviously reap the savings of having a much lower cost of living in those countries.

Maybe we could reduce the amount it costs to keep someone locked-up by 50% who knows?
With the added benefit that the prisoners themselves probably wouldn't be able to acquire drugs or mobile phones and other contra-band as their isolation in some far-flung country makes that less possible.

Lots of other things go offshore, for example IT jobs and manufacturing, so why not our Prison system too?

Quazzie · 31-03-2009 11:15AM

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PirateShampoo · 31-03-2009 11:18AM

The Romans had the right idea,

2 men enter, 1 man leaves and gets set on by tigers.

Its a win win situation. The prision population gets lower, you can sell the rights to sky. We get quailty entertainment. And the zoo gets free meat.

Boskowski · 31-03-2009 11:21AM

Can we offshore our Prsion institution?

FYP

and yes, sounds good to me

funk-you · 31-03-2009 11:22AM

The best way to solve crime would be to say that the next person arrested and found guilty will be sharing a cell unsupervised with this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

-Funk

Sanjuro · 31-03-2009 11:37AM

They should send them to Monster Island.

Needn't worry though. It's just a name. It's actually a peninsula.

31-03-2009 11:54AM

what's a gaol?

sounds like a crazy idea and we need the jobs i guess.. even if it expensive to keep a prisoner.

AnonoBoy · 31-03-2009 11:55AM

funk-you wrote: »

The best way to solve crime would be to say that the next person arrested and found guilty will be sharing a cell unsupervised with this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

-Funk

But people would deliberately get arrested so they could get to meet and be entertained by the legendary Samwell!

Hmmm.... maybe I'm missing something.

Mr.Lizard · 31-03-2009 11:57AM

I think we should send them all to Fantasy Island. I heard that creepy midget fella is dead now but I'm sure we could get a replacement for him.

Earthhorse · 31-03-2009 11:59AM

Didn't we call it Australia?

Aodan83 · 31-03-2009 12:02PM

Dammit Earthhorse. Stole my freakin thunder.

themadchef · 31-03-2009 12:02PM

Much cheaper just to let them kill each other inside.

Just pile all the murdering, padedphile, raping scum together and let nature take it's course.

Professey Chin · 31-03-2009 12:05PM

I thought keepin someone in a gowl all year woulda cost more. Are hookers finally dropping their prices??

Barname · 31-03-2009 12:06PM

RedPlanet wrote: »

It costs a lot to keep someone in gaol. According to the last report (2007), it looks like it costs between 90-100K/year. Ireland is an expensive place with inflated wages and an inflated cost of living. I wonder could we find some offshore location where Administering a Prision system would be a lot cheaper.

I'm not talking about sending our citizens to some dark gulag in Siberia. But rather, maintain current standards according to our international obligations (human rights treatys) as we outsource our Prision system to some place like China or India, or some other developing country that is willing.
Basically take the long term prisoners out of Irish gaols and relocate them to a more cost-effective location.
I imagine we could place our own Administers to oversee things (an Irish Gaol in China) but hire local people for prison staff, at local wages, and obviously reap the savings of having a much lower cost of living in those countries.

Maybe we could reduce the amount it costs to keep someone locked-up by 50% who knows?
With the added benefit that the prisoners themselves probably wouldn't be able to acquire drugs or mobile phones and other contra-band as their isolation in some far-flung country makes that less possible.

Lots of other things go offshore, for example IT jobs and manufacturing, so why not our Prison system too?

an excellent proposal.

you will unfortunately have liberal limps somehow claiming that it is humane. Fcuk those pinkos.

Lets ship the scum.

Earthhorse · 31-03-2009 12:19PM

Aodan83 wrote: »

Dammit Earthhorse. Stole my freakin thunder.

Looks like it's Australia for me so.

Gummy Panda · 31-03-2009 12:19PM

But won't they just revolt and take control of the island. Isn't that how australia was formed?

:pac:

RedPlanet · 31-03-2009 12:24PM

Well we've learned from history and have taken that on board.
They can't take over India, or China, or some other country with a large population and a standing army...

Robbo · 31-03-2009 12:29PM

I fully support this proposal so that if someone imprisoned several thousand miles away were to say, appeal their conviction, the righteous hordes of AH would work themselves up into a froth over the cost of transporting this person back securely from Zanzibar or wherever. And then complain about how we aren't giving Irish prisoners to Irish prison officers...

I think I've just divided AH by zero. Like telling them that asylum seekers are the natural prey of paedophiles.

allabouteve · 31-03-2009 12:38PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

Didn't we call it Australia?

We?
Are you British?

Earthhorse wrote: »

Looks like it's Australia for me so.

Hurry, we're thinking of introducing a height requirement.

Tech3 · 31-03-2009 12:38PM

Bring in the death sentance and get rid of most of the certain scum. It should bring down the cost of prisons considerably.

Earthhorse · 31-03-2009 12:41PM

allabouteve wrote: »

We?
Are you British?

We were at the time I think.

allabouteve wrote: »

Hurry, we're thinking of introducing a height requirement.

Gonna sit this one out, coach.

allabouteve · 31-03-2009 12:44PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

Gonna sit this one out, coach.

Sorry, thought you were standing.:o

Bottle_of_Smoke · 31-03-2009 01:31PM

Bit harsh on families who'd have to travel to visit, they didn't do anything wrong.

Terry · 31-03-2009 01:37PM

Just re-open Spike island.

Capt'n Midnight · 31-03-2009 01:40PM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Bit harsh on families who'd have to travel to visit, they didn't do anything wrong.

Just have web cams
if you are going to be on the opposite side of the glass there is no physical contact anyway

stovelid · 31-03-2009 01:43PM

Inishvickillane island, in the Blaskets, would surely do the trick.

It housed a criminal for years.

dublinario · 31-03-2009 01:44PM

Convicts should be given a choice between prison time, or 'The Catapult'. If they choose the latter, they'll be catapulted from the roof of Liberty Hall with a trajectory 'likely' to have them land in the Liffey. However, with prevailing winds, prisoner girth, swimming abilities, passing boats, there's still a lot of factors that could see the prisoner injured or killed.

The only drawback I can see is that we might need to rewrite the international charter on human rights to look favourably upon catapulting people from building roofs. Or withdraw from the charter, as a nation, in which case we could just toss a coin at all trials, and heads = death, while tails = catapult.

javaboy · 31-03-2009 01:44PM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

Rockall is available.

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ejmaztec · 31-03-2009 01:46PM

stovelid wrote: »

Inishvickillane island, in the Blaskets, would surely do the trick.

It housed a criminal for years.

You mean Charlietraz?

homerjay2005 · 31-03-2009 01:47PM

seems like a great idea and common sense, though im sure its not legal somehow and somebody would pose a loophole in it. however, great ideas and common sense never work in ireland cos people will disagree. moving current criminals is not an option, as people will protest and use the "human rights" nonsense. maybe a suituation where it was revealed that future convicted criminals be housed over seas would be a deterrant, but probably not. at least it would remove opposition to it.

then again, the costs in moving them,flights,over time for staff and paying 5 start hotels for the people to move them, would probably cost more than now.

my solution - cut the costs of running the places. some of those places are like holiday camps. this came from a friend of mine who once spent some time behind bars for a pathetic conviction that he didnt deserve.

thelordofcheese · 31-03-2009 01:54PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

seems like a great idea and common sense

It is neither of these things.

Can we offshore our Prision institution?

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