17yr old boy charged with killing PSNI officer

Stones85 wrote: »

Just heard on the radio there that a 17yr old boy has been charged with the killing of PSNI officer Carroll, He's also charged with possessing afirearm with intent and membership of anillegal organisation, namely The Continuity IRA.

17 ffs!! if its brought to court and he's convicted? 20 odd years he'll get.... what a waste of a young life for nothing...

Unfortunately I don't think the brits do life sentences for under-18s.

Mairt wrote: »

I just seen that on TV3 now.

I'm both sickened and saddened by this news.

17yrs old - a fucking child, what kind of monster brain washed & then sent this child to murder a man?.

Christ almighty, my son is 17. He was five when the ceasefire came into effect.

I'm almost at a loss for words, I'm at a complete loss of understanding tbh.

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Yep, it's ****in sick.

I remember around the time of the Omagh bombing there were people arrested for training 14-18 year old lads to use firearms. Those lads got out about 6 years ago, so much for law and order eh?

Stones85 wrote: »

Do republican prisoners still get pow/special category staus?

Seanybiker- I'm actually more annoyed at the grown men in their 20's, 30's and 40's who recruited this boy, put the gun in his hands and "ordered" him to kill. He is of coarse a free thinking human being and is responsible for what he does....... but he's a boy manipulated by grown men.

He's in court this morning in Lisburn magistrates court, 4 others being questioned still.

Well yeah I agree with ya there but in all fairness at 17 he knows whats right or wrong. He is probably one of those young chaps who thinks its cool do follow prats like he does.

I don't think a 17 year old went off and did this out of his own steam.

RaverRo808 wrote: »

My heart goes out to this young man,only seventeen year old,as a republican I respect his conviction and dedication,and I wish him the best,regardless of his crime,he is a political prisoner and should be treated as such,but at the same time this is not a time to be shooting policemen,and the blame lies with the CIRA,a mini micro group with no support or mandate to perform such actions,this young mans life is ruined because of these dinosaurs

I am also a republican, but I don't support attacks on officers of the PSNI.. Especially not when we are attempting to devolve policing & justice.

I will reserve judgement on this chap until more information is released. I hope he is not being used as a scapegoat. 17 is way too young to be getting involved in this shíte.

Most 17 year old republicans I know are out getting involved in community projects, like anti-suicide campaigns, or education campaigns.. Not shooting police officers! If he is guilty, he was seriously misguided - and that should rest heavily of those who lured him into their outdated campaign which has little to no support from the Irish people.

RaverRo808 wrote: »

My heart goes out to this young man,only seventeen year old,as a republican I respect his conviction and dedication,and I wish him the best,regardless of his crime,he is a political prisoner and should be treated as such,but at the same time this is not a time to be shooting policemen,and the blame lies with the CIRA,a mini micro group with no support or mandate to perform such actions,this young mans life is ruined because of these dinosaurs

Northern Ireland needs a police force, they are making great strides towards a fair and inclusive Police service and you are trying to claim that this lad was justified in killing an officer? Sorry, but how does that make you any different to the scum who sent him out to kill in the first place?

political prisoner my arse.

Madness altogether. 17??? This is the front line of RIRA's attempted disruption of the peace process?? 17?????

dlofnep wrote: »

Innocent until proven guilty. Numerous sources have suggested that they could have the wrong person. I could be wrong, but I sincerely hope I'm not. 17 year olds should be out playing soccer, or beating up Mairt in judo - and not shooting PSNI officers for a deluded cause.

Scapegoat possibility alright...

When I heard someone involved in this was only 17 - I immediately thought of suicide bombers and how they brainwash young men from an early age. It's really so similar. You're 17 - a bit angry with the world (the suicide rate amongst young men in NI is very high - clearly a lot of them are very disillusioned), wanting to be a man and a grown up and take charge of their life and therfore ripe for some oul fella to come along and tell you he's got a great solution and you'll be fighting for a cause.

It also made me thinkg of when we get trolls on boards who like to say "up the ra" and stir up threads with republicanism because they think it's cool. They're nearly always teenage boys.

A 17 year old wouldn't remember much of the troubles either - whereas most men in their late twenties and thirties but not want to go back to that way of life.

It's very sad. - for all involved.