Is it time for another "rising"?

veryangryman · 23-03-2009 11:24AM #1

Now before you diss my idea, lets remember the background of the second world war...

Huge global depression a-la 1929 stock market crash
Greedy employers ignoring Unions who had little to no power
High unemployment
A general feeling of depression throughout the world

Resources throughout the world are running out. People are becoming more and more desperate as they struggle to keep above water. Those without jobs (the unemplyed, students, the old, infirmed etc) are also being raped by the governments. The employers themselves are using the recession as an excuse to bypass basic human rights to their employees with an attitude of "well everyone else is doing this so..."

I can see within the next 5 years, alot of anarachy across the world. The current system is not working - lets be honest. I for one am extremely disillusioned with what has gone on. Who here can say they are not extremely pissed off at the way the guys at the top have run things

My name is URL · 23-03-2009 11:28AM

Rise to what exactly?

stovelid · 23-03-2009 11:30AM

There was a rising in my dressing gown this morning.

Anyone else fancy that blonde mot on Ireland AM?

Vain · 23-03-2009 11:30AM

Why not. You start the rising so and il be right behind you to follow on...... I swear.:pac:

Hagar · 23-03-2009 11:33AM

I read that twice, I still can't make head nor tail of what you're trying to say.
Can you speak any other languages?
Give it another go in Spanish or something and I'll try to read it again.

James Forde · 23-03-2009 11:37AM

We won the Grandslam...........I thought the recession was over?

SV · 23-03-2009 11:37AM

Some man from the daily mail reckons it wouldn't be surprising anyway.

S.I.R · 23-03-2009 11:38AM

Upward Spiral wrote: »

Rise to what exactly?

rise to remove the current government, put a new one in then let that fail too... people have no patience, its going to be over, just shush up and get on with your lifes... its not our fault you cant make money OP... go back and live with your parents, do whatever it takes to get back on solid ground...

pesky unemployed/students " blah blah education is a right blah blah blah " -

so is getting paid for the hard work you do...

not getting paid enough ?? - your not in the right job

not working at all - finding a job is a full time job... Go about it arseways you'll be out of work longer then you should be.

ahh... had to vent...

stovelid... get me a youtube link, ima bust a nut.

Berty · 23-03-2009 11:39AM

Oh God. Its another out to get "The Man" thread.

Socialist by chance?

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-03-2009 11:41AM

the unions are also to blame for this shambles

connundrum · 23-03-2009 11:43AM

stovelid wrote: »

There was a rising in my dressing gown this morning.

Anyone else fancy that blonde mot on Ireland AM?

The one that keeps waving her hands about while she's doing the weather?

No.

As for a rising..

All it would accomplish is more anarchy, followed by more recession.

And as was previously mentioned, who do you rise against?

damselnat · 23-03-2009 11:50AM

Remember after 1929 and the Versailles Treaty and social unrest, this guy called Mussolini...and this other fella, think his name was like Hitler or something....promised something similar.....?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-03-2009 12:17PM

Are you SERIOUS? We can't even get people to stop voting for Fianna Fail, let alone rise!!

Kintarō Hattori · 23-03-2009 12:17PM

No.

veryangryman · 23-03-2009 12:24PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Are you SERIOUS? We can't even get people to stop voting for Fianna Fail, let alone rise!!

Thats loser talk! Get with the winning team. What needs to happen is a rise against ALL the major parties.

ie. Lose both the Fiannas and Labour. They are letting us down BIG TIME here. What if it does lead to another recession? I dont think that this action could make things anyway worse

Dont dismiss me as a socialist. The point is that WE, the people make this government. WE can break it.

In conclusion, im voting for an independent in the next local, european and national elections. Might not be a huge step towards anarchy, but its definitely a vote for a step in the right direction.

Jumpy · 23-03-2009 12:27PM

I'll be your future overlord.

Its a huge responsibility. But I accept.

Jigsaw · 23-03-2009 12:31PM

Jumpy wrote: »

I'll be your future overlord.

Its a huge responsibility. But I accept.

I, for one, welcome you.

:pac:

Sanjuro · 23-03-2009 02:26PM

veryangryman wrote: »

Thats loser talk! Get with the winning team. What needs to happen is a rise against ALL the major parties.

ie. Lose both the Fiannas and Labour. They are letting us down BIG TIME here. What if it does lead to another recession? I dont think that this action could make things anyway worse

Dont dismiss me as a socialist. The point is that WE, the people make this government. WE can break it.

In conclusion, im voting for an independent in the next local, european and national elections. Might not be a huge step towards anarchy, but its definitely a vote for a step in the right direction.

Apart from getting rid of Fianna Fail, FINE Gael and Labour, may as well dump the government mud-guard that is the Green Party and the boardering on ultra-nationalist Sinn Féin. And then what?

The thing about it is, it doesn't matter what politician you vote for. By their very nature, politicians are self-serving. And you don't get to the top by being a man (or woman) of the people. You get there by being even more self-serving and conniving than your peers. It's just in the psychology of the politician.

Rhyme · 23-03-2009 02:33PM

Yeah, let's kick out those in power and... then what?

There isn't a big enough rolleye emoticon.

veryangryman · 23-03-2009 02:51PM

Rhyme wrote: »

Yeah, let's kick out those in power and... then what?

Thats for the up and coming party to decide

And i will repeat what i said - it cant make things worse. Its amazing what confidence a fresh face can achieve. Witness Obama...

aidan_walsh · 23-03-2009 02:54PM

veryangryman wrote: »

Thats loser talk! Get with the winning team. What needs to happen is a rise against ALL the major parties.

ie. Lose both the Fiannas and Labour. They are letting us down BIG TIME here. What if it does lead to another recession? I dont think that this action could make things anyway worse

Dont dismiss me as a socialist. The point is that WE, the people make this government. WE can break it.

In conclusion, im voting for an independent in the next local, european and national elections. Might not be a huge step towards anarchy, but its definitely a vote for a step in the right direction.

Dammit, he's right. I'm voting Social Democrat, or whoever it is has all those posters declaring that the only way to fix the economy is to petrol bomb the police.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-03-2009 02:56PM

veryangryman wrote: »

Thats loser talk! Get with the winning team. What needs to happen is a rise against ALL the major parties.

ie. Lose both the Fiannas and Labour. They are letting us down BIG TIME here. What if it does lead to another recession? I dont think that this action could make things anyway worse

Dont dismiss me as a socialist. The point is that WE, the people make this government. WE can break it.

In conclusion, im voting for an independent in the next local, european and national elections. Might not be a huge step towards anarchy, but its definitely a vote for a step in the right direction.

Same direction, just one step further: I voted for independants in the last two elections. My question is: how are you going to convince the idiots that DID vote FF, openly admit it and would vote for them AGAIN to join in?

Mr.Lizard · 23-03-2009 02:59PM

It's time to rock the vote people! Yeah!

topper75 · 23-03-2009 03:03PM

veryangryman wrote: »

ie. Lose both the Fiannas and Labour. They are letting us down BIG TIME here.

Who is the other Fianna apart from Fianna Fáil? Jason Sherlock's club?

Iang87 · 23-03-2009 03:09PM

i'll vote for you as long as you run under the name veryangryman. Also in your campaign picture i want to see you give a big smile and a thumbs up a la Steve-o.

Last Angry Man · 23-03-2009 04:27PM

No relation by the way....

Wouldn't it be great to have another war? You know, sacrifice billions of people's lives because things are a bit tight at the moment?

It took a decade for the good times to follow after the end of WWII and the world was back in recession by 1972 - interestingly enough the reasons for the recession on the 1970s are not entirely unfamiliar.

The thing about recession is that everyone is to blame and nobody is to blame. Just have to ride it out I'm afraid.

Last Angry Man · 23-03-2009 04:29PM

Jumpy wrote: »

I'll be your future overlord.

Its a huge responsibility. But I accept.

"Jumpy" has to be the best nae for an overlord ever!!!

Keep him away from the button!!!

Jumpy · 23-03-2009 04:44PM

I already pressed it

Last Angry Man · 23-03-2009 05:04PM

Jumpy wrote: »

I'll be your future overlord.

Its a huge responsibility. But I accept.

"Jumpy" has to be the best name for an overlord ever!!!

Keep him away from the button!!!

Dartz · 23-03-2009 05:25PM

They'll just roll over and squash you.

Constitution wrote:

Article 28.3.3
Nothing in this Constitution shall be invoked to invalidate any law enacted by the Oireachtas which is expressed to be for the purpose of securing the public safety and the preservation of the State in time of war or armed rebellion, or to nullify any act done or purporting to be done in time of war or armed rebellion in pursuance of any such law. In this sub-section 'time of war' includes a time when there is taking place an armed conflict in which the State is not a participant but in respect of which each of the Houses of the Oireachtas shall have resolved that, arising out of such armed conflict, a national emergency exists affecting the vital interests of the State and 'time of war or armed rebellion' includes such time after the termination of any war, or of any such armed conflict as aforesaid, or of an armed rebellion, as may elapse until each of the Houses of the Oireachtas shall have resolved that the national emergency occasioned by such war, armed conflict, or armed rebellion has ceased to exist.

Tech3 · 23-03-2009 05:29PM

damselnat wrote: »

Remember after 1929 and the Versailles Treaty and social unrest, this guy called Mussolini...and this other fella, think his name was like Hitler or something....promised something similar.....?

Ever look at cuba their country runs fine under socialist policies.

It is the government problem that people dont have jobs. The PDs were a disaster and FF leaned too much with them on lax tax and public sector issues when the property boom started. If there is no jobs then what can people do??

Under a communist state we would have people working for the good of country. The problem is there is no party out there to agree with my political views. The labour party might as well be right wing for all I care. The socialist party are in a small majority which is one of the problems and sinn fein is too nationist for me.

Is it time for another "rising"?

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