Jade Goody has died (Condolence thread)

ShooterSF · 22-03-2009 02:06PM

Terry wrote: »

Really?
Comparing her to those people?
How many people did she kill?

Maybe I didn't make my point clear. I'm not saying she was the same, I was pointing out that people here say we should respect the dead regardless of the life they led. So I went to the extremes in an effort to show how idiotic that is. I was not saying she was as bad, or near it. But I would like a little clarification. When can I still dislike someone after they died? When do I have to sugar coat it and pretend to sympathise with a family I never even met?

Ok. She never killed anyone, is that the line? If so why? So I can be a dick all my life, never actually kill anyone and still get respect when I die? Of course no one would know. Maybe if I went on tv and insulted a race people would remember me and then could show their respects. Heck maybe I should have a few kids too, seems to help.

Sorry Terry, I know its not the most popular opinion but it turns my stomach to see people pay respects to a person who had she been a decent human being all her life they would never have heard of her and would have cared less. Its crazy.

22-03-2009 02:09PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

Maybe I didn't make my point clear. I'm not saying she was the same, I was pointing out that people here say we should respect the dead regardless of the life they led. So I went to the extremes in an effort to show how idiotic that is. I was not saying she was as bad, or near it. But I would like a little clarification. When can I still dislike someone after they died? When do I have to sugar coat it and pretend to sympathise with a family I never even met?

Ok. She never killed anyone, is that the line? If so why? So I can be a dick all my life, never actually kill anyone and still get respect when I die? Of course no one would know. Maybe if I went on tv and insulted a race people would remember me and then could show their respects. Heck maybe I should have a few kids too, seems to help.

Sorry Terry, I know its not the most popular opinion but it turns my stomach to see people pay respects to a person who had she been a decent human being all her life they would never have heard of her and would have cared less. Its crazy.

qft. that's exactly how i feel on the matter.

Terry · 22-03-2009 02:15PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

Maybe I didn't make my point clear. I'm not saying she was the same, I was pointing out that people here say we should respect the dead regardless of the life they led. So I went to the extremes in an effort to show how idiotic that is. I was not saying she was as bad, or near it. But I would like a little clarification. When can I still dislike someone after they died? When do I have to sugar coat it and pretend to sympathise with a family I never even met?

Ok. She never killed anyone, is that the line? If so why? So I can be a dick all my life, never actually kill anyone and still get respect when I die? Of course no one would know. Maybe if I went on tv and insulted a race people would remember me and then could show their respects. Heck maybe I should have a few kids too, seems to help.

Sorry Terry, I know its not the most popular opinion but it turns my stomach to see people pay respects to a person who had she been a decent human being all her life they would never have heard of her and would have cared less. Its crazy.

Deleted User wrote: »

qft. that's exactly how i feel on the matter.

There's a very simple solution to your problem.
Don't open this thread again.

shezzie · 22-03-2009 02:17PM

just heard the news now and think its extremely sad for her mom her husband and her poor poor children only 27 she was so so young...may she rest in peace that she didn't get when she was alive from all the put downs from media and other sources she never did anything malicious and had a very hard upbringing...i know bout the shilpa stuff but they made peace why couldn't everyone else who weren't even involved...

anyway rest in peace and god give her family some strength through this extremely difficult time

KamiKazi · 22-03-2009 02:19PM

Open discussion my h0le

staker · 22-03-2009 02:23PM

Terry wrote: »

There's a very simple solution to your problem.
Don't open this thread again.

that defeats the purpose of boards.ie no?

Hank Scorpio · 22-03-2009 02:23PM

r.i.p

Galmay · 22-03-2009 02:27PM

It has been unavoidable these past few months to not see pictures or "news" stories about Jade Goody and therefore her slow decline was seen by much of the public. Im sure much of it was all too familiar to many people who have lost loved ones.

It is my hope that this improved awareness of cancer will help others understand more what sufferers and their relatives go through when cancer strikes. Cancer is a horrible disease and one whose effects are not talked about enough in this country considering how awfully widespread it is across all sections of society.

RIP Jade. I was never a fan of your lifestyle, but you dealt with cancer with great dignity and composure for someone so young.

keefg · 22-03-2009 02:30PM

Galmay wrote: »

but you dealt with cancer with great dignity

I can't think of a less dignified way to deal with this type of illness TBH but I suppose that was her life (and job) for the last 7 years.

Xavi6 · 22-03-2009 02:31PM

staker wrote: »

that defeats the purpose of boards.ie no?

Why? Because Boards is a public forum?

Oh wait now, it's not.

Rented Mule · 22-03-2009 02:32PM

Galmay wrote: »

RIP Jade. I was never a fan of your lifestyle, but you dealt with cancer with great dignity and composure for someone so young.

Can someone explain to me what that means?

What is 'great dignity' in this situation ?

Latchy · 22-03-2009 02:34PM

The OP who started the thread with Jade goodys has died didn't leave his own views or opinions on her , good or bad .Now if he had put ' please only post messages of sympathy ' it would have stopped all the trolling / nasty comments and the Mods would have seen fit to remove any posts .But by not requesting above , left it open to be a pay your respects / debate thread.

Terry · 22-03-2009 02:37PM

Thread title changed.

Go start your own thread. With blackjack and hookers.

Rented Mule · 22-03-2009 02:45PM

Terry wrote: »

Thread title changed.

11 pages in ?

Do you work for the government as well ?? lol

livvy · 22-03-2009 02:47PM

This girl had it tough from day one.

From reading the papers she had a mother and father who left her down badly. Big brother milked her for what she was worth. She took what she could out of her badly dealt hand and made the most out of it - she made good money out of being herself - warts and all. People loved to read about her uneducated and tough lifestyle - it makes you feel better about yourself, maybe.

In business terms she rocked. She could make money out of nothing, brought her self back after near ruination and even in her death her sons will be reap the fruits of her success.

I take my hat off - no one stupid could have had the success she had. She was just unlucky to die so young. Jade and all the others.

keefg · 22-03-2009 02:49PM

livvy wrote: »

In business terms she rocked. She could make money out of nothing, brought her self back after near ruination and even in her death her sons will be reap the fruits of her success.

.

I think that has more to do with Max Clifford and his connections rather than Jade's "genius"

KamiKazi · 22-03-2009 02:50PM

Boards.ie - Now ye're talking about what we want you to talk about.

Denerick · 22-03-2009 02:50PM

I hope Max Clifford goes to confession to repent what he's done the last couple of months.

RIP.

livvy · 22-03-2009 02:54PM

keefg wrote: »

I think that has more to do with Max Clifford and his connections rather than Jade's "genius"

She hired him. Her decision. He made her money. "Genius" a bit far. Good business sense - yes.

rainbow kirby · 22-03-2009 02:56PM

I didn't like the woman one bit - however that doesn't make it any less sad to see two young boys lose their mother on Mother's Day.

keefg · 22-03-2009 03:03PM

livvy wrote: »

She hired him. Her decision. He made her money. "Genius" a bit far. Good business sense - yes.

And do you really believe she made that decision all by herself? Or that it was set up between Channel 4 & Clifford himself?

Left to her own devices, Jade would have faded from the public eye as soon as she was evicted from the BB house way back when (as so many others have done), it was Clifford that saw Jade's appeal to the "OK" type magazine worshipers and the potential to exploit Jade for maximum profit.

Like it or loathe it, it is something that Clifford is very good at. It had nothing to do with Jade's own business sense.

Sharpshooter · 22-03-2009 03:06PM

Jade is at peace.
Her two boys are going to need someone sensible and caring around them now.
That's really what they need, more than the money she left them.
Their little lives are going to be very hard because from what I could see,she was a great mam to them.

keefg · 22-03-2009 03:09PM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Jade is at peace.
Her two boys are going to need someone sensible and caring around them now.
That's really what they need, more than the money she left them.
Their little lives are going to be very hard because from what I could see,she was a great mam to them.

I agree, from what I have seen neither Jade's mother or husband are what you would call pillars of the community.

Maybe their biological father will be able to provide some sort of stability for the kids.

livvy · 22-03-2009 03:10PM

keefg wrote: »

And do you really believe she made that decision all by herself? Or that it was set up between Channel 4 & Clifford himself?

Left to her own devices, Jade would have faded from the public eye as soon as she was evicted from the BB house way back when (as so many others have done), it was Clifford that saw Jade's appeal to the "OK" type magazine worshipers and the potential to exploit Jade for maximum profit.

Like it or loathe it, it is something that Clifford is very good at. It had nothing to do with Jade's own business sense.

I couldn't agree more with you on the Jade being lead but the point is she took him on....... regardless of why/how/where she employed the man and made stupid amounts of money.

You can go on about Max Clifford and Channel 4 making the decision all you want but she ultimately decided what to do with herself.

If this was a Max Clifford Appreciation thread i would back you all the way - but it's not.

testicle · 22-03-2009 03:11PM

Terry wrote: »

Thread title changed.

Go start your own thread. With blackjack and hookers.

Fcuk that ****. There's already a thread in Celebrity Wannabees for that. This is After Hours for the love of god.

testicle · 22-03-2009 03:20PM

Terry wrote: »

Thread title changed.

Go start your own thread. With blackjack and hookers.

You are denying Jade her dying wish, where she wanted to be remembered as a "mouthy bird... The one who irritated and entertained people in equal measure"

Sharpshooter · 22-03-2009 03:22PM

keefg wrote: »

I agree, from what I have seen neither Jade's mother or husband are what you would call pillars of the community.

Maybe their biological father will be able to provide some sort of stability for the kids.

Jeff does seem to be the obvious choice.
Sensible and has steady work.
He has also kept a low profile during all this which is a good sign.

I would say Jack will be the one to milk this situation for all it's worth,rake in the money and spend it as quick as he gets it.

22-03-2009 03:23PM

Ok in all seriousness. The poor girl, no matter what yout thought of her as a person and how she carried herself, a 27 year olf mother of 2 dying is very sad. I will admit that I thought it was a publicity stunt at first, that's how little I thought of her. But she suffered enough and the fact that she died on mothers day is quite sad really.

Max Clifford on the other hand is a soulless parasite as are those freaks who fuelled the media on this in the first place. I'm relieved it's over now because I've found the whole thing very very uncomfortable.

DigiJem · 22-03-2009 03:29PM

Have to say I admire the effort she went to, in order to provide for her sons, in her last months. Very sad for her sons to lose their mum at some a young age. RIP

Buzz Killington · 22-03-2009 03:44PM

KamiKazi wrote: »

Boards.ie - Now ye're talking about what we want you to talk about.

Quality post

Jade Goody has died (Condolence thread)

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