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Paul Williams

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Biggins wrote: »
    Not from the want of trying!

    Example: http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/1114/williamsp.html
    If there were any real threats to his life he wouldnt be still writing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Kiera wrote: »
    If there were any real threats to his life he wouldn't be still writing.

    O' Please. Tell that to Veronica Guirean RIP.
    She kept going in the face of threats and more. Sorry, disagree with you on that one.
    You know, there are some people that actually don't feel like giving in to the thugs and bullies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Why would any of them want to kill him?

    With him dead, they'd just be criminal scobes; when he's alive, they're 'Gangland Lynchpins' and 'Criminal Masterminds'.

    They probably can't wait to read the write-ups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Had to google to find out who this man is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Biggins wrote: »
    O' Please. Tell that to Veronica Guirean RIP.
    She kept going in the face of threats and more. Sorry, disagree with you on that one.
    You know, there are some people that actually don't feel like giving in to the thugs and bullies.
    Stop reading the Sunday World.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    To be honest I'm on the fence about him as a personality.
    I am glad however that he and his kind are out there.

    Without their exposures and explanations, I suspect a lot of things we would never know about, be covered up and/or denied in the first place.
    Add to that the pressure sometimes that is brought to bear and thus something is done about something/someone that is undesirable by the general public - I'd rather have his kind in the world, than non-existent at all.

    End of the day, there are bigger people and scumbags we should be giving out about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Biggins wrote: »
    O' Please. Tell that to Veronica Guirean RIP.
    She kept going in the face of threats and more. Sorry, disagree with you on that one.
    You know, there are some people that actually don't feel like giving in to the thugs and bullies.
    I hang around with Veronica's nephew so i know about these thugs.

    Doesnt stop me thinking he's a díck tho. There's not a hope in hell these scumbags are gonna take him out and suffer all the shít that happened after Veronica was killed and he knows this and plays on it. He's a drama queen. He makes out he's living on the edge outing all these thugs when he's not really. When's the last time he outed a real scumbag? He uses the same stories and thugs week in and week out. He's a bore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Stay_in_Kampuchea


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    -Cabra has no drug problem.

    Paul Williams just passed this onto me

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pdZXKKMGuE

    Proof. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Here is a very good write-up on him as a person.

    http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2008/oct/26/profile-paul-williams/
    Profile - Paul Williams

    The Untouchable - He has been a scourge of Ireland's gangland kingpins for many years, but in the process the journalist has proven that crime really does pay, writes Mick McCaffrey

    Listeners to RTé's Liveline probably didn't know it at the time, but Tuesday 1 May 2007 marked the completion of the transformation of Paul Williams from mere journalist to bona fide brand. The Sunday World crime editor was talking to Joe when one of the country's most notorious criminals, John Daly, phoned the show from his cell in the supposedly high-security Portlaoise Prison to have a go at Williams. The way that the veteran crime hack swatted away Daly's criticisms before asking the question that everyone was thinking – "where did you get a mobile phone in jail?" – made the programme one of the most compell*ing in living memory. The storm of public and political outrage following the incident reinforced Williams's reputation as the fearless hack ready to take on the criminals no matter what the consequences.

    On Tuesday night, "Paulie's" latest book will be launched and hundreds of politicians, gardaí, celebrities and journalists will descend to pay their respects to the man who has been described, by Joe Duffy, as the "out-stand*ing journalist of his generation".

    There can be no arguing that he is certainly the best known and one of the most successful. The Leitrim native moved to Dublin in 1984 and studied journalism in Rathmines College. Among his contemporaries there were the Sunday Tribune editor Nóirín Hegarty, editor of the Evening Herald Stephen Rae and Irish Sun editor Michael McEniffe. He was also friendly with well-known BBC journalist Orla Guerin. He was eager to get his hands dirty and dropped out after only a year when he landed a job at the Longford Leader. After learning the journalistic ropes, he joined the Sunday World in 1987 and began to focus on crime reporting, writing about the drug barons who were importing heroin.

    But it was after the 1996 murder of Sunday Independent crime reporter Veronica Guerin that he really came to national prominence. The passionate way in which he articulated the national outrage over the murder exposed him to a new audience and he seamlessly took Guerin's place as the most high-profile investigative crime reporter in the country. Since then, he has led the way in breaking scoop after scoop and chronicling the crimes of countless gangsters, including Guerin's suspected murderer, John Gilligan.

    Williams and the Sunday World led the way in giving nicknames to crimin*als in order to avoid the strict libel laws, and 'The Tosser', 'The Penguin', 'Babyface' and 'Fatpuss' all entered the public consciousness. But this tactic also led to criticism, with some arguing it glamourised these criminals and gave them a higher profile than they would otherwise have enjoyed.

    Williams's rise has not all been plain sailing though. In November 2003, the journalist and his family were asleep in their home when a passing garda noticed a suspicious device under their car. The Williams family and 140 of their neighbours had to be evacuated while a controlled explosion was carried out on the hoax bomb. It is believed that the device was a warning from a major gangland figure to stop investigating his criminal activities. In his typically populist way, Williams responded to the bomb threat by saying, "I am not going to stop taking on these bastards."

    He was one of the first writers to realise that the public's fascination with gangsters could benefit his bank balance, and Crime Wars is his sixth offering in 13 years. All his books have proven to be massive sellers. The General, which told the life story of arch-criminal Martin Cahill, was turned into a Hollywood movie, and last year came The Untouchables, a profile of the Crim*inal Assets Bureau, which was made into an award-winning documentary for TV3, with Williams as the presenter.

    Crime has certainly paid for Williams – he lives in a €1m house in Rathfarnham with his wife Ann Sweeney (whom he met in his first job) and two teenage children. Williams (43) is a gregarious character who always has a story to tell and an anecdote to share. He is at his most comfortable holding court in a bar surrounded by close friends, many of whom are serving or former gardaí.

    Among his inner circle are RTé broadcaster Joe Duffy (who will be MC at his book launch on Tuesday), defence minister Willie O'Dea, former garda commissioner Pat Byrne and retired assistant commissioner Tony Hickey. Williams is no shrinking violet; he is not afraid to tell people when he believes he has been slighted and prides himself on calling things as he sees them. He has crossed swords with close friends on a number of occasions and is sensitive about his image, sending legal corres*pondence to various newspapers over perceived inaccuracies over the years.

    Williams has a reputation for being helpful and supportive to talented young journalists, but he is a jealous guardian of his position as top dog among crime journalists.

    There have been many criticisms levelled against him over the years, chief among them being that he is little more than a cheerleader for the gardaí who steers away from reporting on the scandals which have blighted the force.

    Williams has been with the Sunday World for 21 years and during that time, the paper has outstripped the Sunday Independent to become the most widely read in the country. There is little doubt that he is a significant factor behind this. In many ways Paul Williams is the World. Through clever marketing and his forceful personality he has transformed himself into a one-man brand. Last Sunday, the front cover of his new book was the main image on the paper's front page. He has become such a phenomenon that his stories these days almost take second place to his personal celebrity. Friends say that he is only too aware of this and has renegotiated his contract throughout the years to reflect his market value.

    They say that imitation is the ultimate form of flattery, and Williams has recently appeared as a character – Paul 'The Hack' Williams – in RTé radio's popular comedy sketches Nob Nation. He is a fan of the humour and Oliver Callan, the comedian behind the skits, will also perform at his launch.

    With gangland murders at an all-time high and the public's morbid fascination showing no sign of abating, it is safe to say that Paul Williams will be in the nat-ional consciousness for quite some time.

    October 26, 2008

    We might dis-like him but I'm glad his kind are still doing what they are doing.
    Not letting thugs think they are immune from exposure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    How many stories has the monks name been dropped into for no reason aswell? Somebody should count. "The fierce underworld figure also share's the same chipper as the notorious monk, sources say the both like extra vinegar".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    Cabra has no drug problem

    +1

    Sure there is no problem getting drugs there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Biggins wrote: »
    Not from the want of trying!

    Example: http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/1114/williamsp.html
    The Minister for Justice, Michael McDowell, has condemned the planting of a hoax device at the home of Sunday World crime editor Paul Williams this morning.

    Not trying very hard if it was a hoax bomb now were they.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    The skeptics are the very same ppl that pay money to watch batman take down the 'mob'........

    At least there is someone out there willing (rightly/wrongly/stupidly) to name these ppl and get pressure on them and make them aware that they're are ppl out there who do care that these gangs and drugs are spreading in the cities and towns of ireland and that the system(no matter how bad it is) will get them...

    if its just a 1page photo in the paper it sends a signal... that we are watching and waiting for you to slip and we will catch you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    This lad used to live on my road. He is an absolute sap. I feel bad for his family - they are under constant police protection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    His sources are gardai/other scumbags/informers, you think you're getting the honest unbridled truth him or his sources? Might as well read the horoscopes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Bambi wrote: »
    His sources are gardai/other scumbags/informers, you think you're getting the honest unbridled truth him or his sources? Might as well read the horoscopes.

    I dont believe he has any underworld sources,nobody in the underworld no matter how high or low up the ladder would talk to him,all his sources are gardai


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    I dont believe he has any underworld sources,nobody in the underworld no matter how high or low up the ladder would talk to him,all his sources are gardai

    So in this credibility match between you and a respected journalist, we should believe you, an anonymous ranter on the internet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    He aint a respected journalist by any stretch

    Anyway most journos are pretty repugnant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Bambi wrote: »
    He aint a respected journalist by any stretch

    Anyway most journos are pretty repugnant.

    I respect a man that at least tries to cover the seedier side of life and the effects on society and communites these scum have than whores that report about what shoes posh spice is wearing or what size is jade goodies gash!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 macdonagh


    oh ppl if u only knew the truth. hes in they pay of the cops, what he writes is what they want people to read, well a certain section of them. probabally one of the most unethical journalists in ireland, and thats a really hard position to earn


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    macdonagh wrote: »
    oh ppl if u only knew the truth. hes in they pay of the cops, what he writes is what they want people to read, well a certain section of them. probabally one of the most unethical journalists in ireland, and thats a really hard position to earn

    still works for me! or would you rather go back hiding under a rock and pretend if never happend.....


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    I was at a conference he spoke at and found him very interesting. People might not like him because of the paper he works at or simply because he is saying stuff people find uncomfortable. He is a fair decent journalist and puts his neck out on the line to make people more aware of what is happening around them, what is and isnt reported in the news.

    He names and shames and is a very vocal journalist. I believe he has been threatened plenty of times and I think attacks have been made against him by some of the criminals.

    Fair play to him imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭i_love_toast


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    Cabra has all that and more,Finbars probably one of the best football and hurling teams in the country with a state of the art clubhouse,with state of the art facitilties,dozens of creches,a fas centre,numerous schools and night colleges,a strong polictical presence that isnt afraid to stand up to the powers that be,mainly Sinn Fein and the late Tony Gregory,anti-bin organisations,it is probably the most community orientated area in Dublin,ask anyone familar with the area


    i have to agree!!
    i went to school in cabra and its noe of the friendliest places with just down to earth working clss people who would go out of there way to help you out.and theres no drug problem there at all!or high unemployement!
    this whole bad stigma about cabra is just from people like paul williams writing shoite and people lapping it up thinking its the f*cking getto or something.theres a few bad apples but ya get everyone.99% of the people are just working class dubliners who are friendlier than any of the miserable c*nts living in wealthy areas who wouldnt piss on you if you were rolling around there front garden on fire!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    i have to agree!!
    i went to school in cabra and its noe of the friendliest places with just down to earth working clss people who would go out of there way to help you out.

    I believe they're called ordinary decent criminals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    I believe they're called ordinary decent criminals.


    The only criminals in Cabra,would be the ones that kick your teeth out for being muppet,where do you live,Lucan a boring souless commutor town,which is probably riddled with snobby middle class types buying cocaine,but you wont see Paul Williams write about that,only working class areas are the only places with a drug problem according to him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Zadkiel


    I believe they're called ordinary decent criminals.

    is it because they're working class and from Cabra that you call them criminals or is it just working class in general?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    Cabra has all that and more,Finbars probably one of the best football and hurling teams in the country with a state of the art clubhouse,with state of the art facitilties...

    Are you f**king joking? :eek: Finbars are one of the dirtiest teams around. Played hurling against them numerous times when I lived in Dublin, never lost to them but nearly lost fingers/eyes several times from dirty pulls. Had a guy break his hurl off my knee about 5 seconds after I'd cleared the ball once. Real nice guys alright... :rolleyes:
    As for the clubhouse, well it may have been a joke, but my oul' lads team (he coaches them) played a game for the official opening, and he asked a couple of club officials in the bar afterwards how they raised the money, and no word of a lie, they told him some of it came from "a few robberies the boys done".

    As for Paul Williams, he may be brave doing what he's doing, but he's earning a fortune from writing utter sh1te in a rag paper. No respect here for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Zadkiel


    Zzippy wrote: »
    but my oul' lads team (he coaches them) played a game for the official opening, and he asked a couple of club officials in the bar afterwards how they raised the money, and no word of a lie, they told him some of it came from "a few robberies the boys done".

    Sure how else would you fund a gaa club :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Are you f**king joking? :eek: Finbars are one of the dirtiest teams around. Played hurling against them numerous times when I lived in Dublin, never lost to them but nearly lost fingers/eyes several times from dirty pulls. Had a guy break his hurl off my knee about 5 seconds after I'd cleared the ball once. Real nice guys alright... :rolleyes:
    As for the clubhouse, well it may have been a joke, but my oul' lads team (he coaches them) played a game for the official opening, and he asked a couple of club officials in the bar afterwards how they raised the money, and no word of a lie, they told him some of it came from "a few robberies the boys done".

    As for Paul Williams, he may be brave doing what he's doing, but he's earning a fortune from writing utter sh1te in a rag paper. No respect here for him.

    They were joking with him,its called a wind up,they were doing abit of bantering which is common in working class Dublin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Zadkiel wrote: »
    Sure how else would you fund a gaa club :rolleyes:

    The Oasis had afew karaoke nights.lol


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