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We dont take the piss outa English as they do us!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    how about that english chap last year who won compensation from his irish employers due to bullying in the workplace...seemingly his irish co-workers made life a misery for him

    things got so bad for him he had to eat his lunch in his car

    now i know that could happen to an irish person in england, but generally speaking its more likely to happen to an english person over here, the irish can be very clanish and mean-minded when it comes to the english


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    fryup wrote: »
    how about that english chap last year who won compensation from his irish employers due to bullying in the workplace...seemingly his irish co-workers made life a misery for him

    things got so bad for him he had to eat his lunch in his car

    now i know that could happen to an irish person in england, but generally speaking its more likely to happen to an english person over here, the irish can be very clanish and mean-minded when it comes to the english
    i would rarther be a but of jokes than be hated ,i am english and when in ireland i tell english jokes so do my irish mates and i love it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    According to most Americans the only good thing to ever come out of England was Monty Python.
    However I do not believe that it has anything to do with how sophisticated the British are.

    Good ole 'mericans , trust them to miss the oppertunity to say "the best thing to come out of England is us".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Good ole 'mericans , trust them to miss the oppertunity to say "the best thing to come out of England is us".

    That's probably because the majority of 'us' came off of this island, and not England.

    Thanks for playing though :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Lirange wrote: »
    Ha! What a stupid bitch! And SHE was the furious one...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    BattyInNZ wrote: »
    I did 7 years in London and you get to know who's laughing 'with' you and who's laughing 'at' you. The only time I ever had trouble was when I worked for a Jewish company. That was weird. It was a funny sort of oneupmanship from one 'lower on the ladder' type to another - or maybe that was me just being charitable :)
    A girl I know said it was the exact same for her when she worked with a Jewish company in London.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Dudess wrote: »
    Irish accents are generally more mockable than English accents.

    Any posh english accent is open for ridicule in my book. I cringe everytime I hear them on the phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,309 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Any posh english accent is open for ridicule in my book. I cringe everytime I hear them on the phone.

    So, when's your book coming out - will it be better than Harry Potter? :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Any posh english accent is open for ridicule in my book. I cringe everytime I hear them on the phone.
    I'm sorry, but give me a posh English accent (well not TOO plummy) before some strong Irish accents any day, e.g. Cork, Kerry, Waterford - how are those from overseas expected to take people who talk like that seriously?
    No wonder the judge presiding over Albert Reynolds v The Sunday Times said Willie O'Dea needed elocution lessons. That's not anti Irishness, that's just an observation. Jackie Healy Rae - Jesus wept... Speaking like that is not "charming", it's cringey.
    And finding some Irish accents woeful does not make me ashamed to be Irish or a "west Brit". If I think they sound horrible, then it's merely opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,309 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    fryup wrote: »
    how about that english chap last year who won compensation from his irish employers due to bullying in the workplace...seemingly his irish co-workers made life a misery for him

    things got so bad for him he had to eat his lunch in his car

    now i know that could happen to an irish person in england, but generally speaking its more likely to happen to an english person over here, the irish can be very clanish and mean-minded when it comes to the english

    The same thing happened to an Irish fellah in northern England a few years ago, and he got £30K for his troubles.

    Ignorance and stupidity are everywhere.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    User Named wrote: »
    Having lived in England for the past 4 years, I was alway's prone to a paddy's joke, mocking of my voice etc. just typical steriotyping. It made me wonder why is it that the English always take the piss out of the Irish but the Irish never really take the piss out of the English. Maybe the odd scouse accent 'calm down calm' but thats it. Why is this and do you mock the English apart from the usual patriot comments like 'u'll never beat the Irish'....any thoughts?

    Cause the rest of the world does it for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,813 ✭✭✭TPD


    Being Irish you notice the Irish jokes coming from English people more than the English jokes coming from Irish. If you were English and came over here, youd notice a lot more English jokes than you would have noticed Irish jokes back in England.

    I just confused myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Dudess wrote: »
    Waterford

    *takes Dudess off christmas list*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Wait, what accent does Dudess have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,309 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    TPD wrote: »
    Being Irish you notice the Irish jokes coming from English people more than the English jokes coming from Irish. If you were English and came over here, youd notice a lot more English jokes than you would have noticed Irish jokes back in England.

    I just confused myself.


    Most of the same jokes here are fired between Cork and Kerry folks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    Dudess wrote: »
    And finding some Irish accents woeful does not make me ashamed to be Irish or a "west Brit". If I think they sound horrible, then it's merely opinion.

    A racist opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    A racist opinion.

    That's the posho's for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    dlofnep wrote: »
    *takes Dudess off christmas list*
    :D - I said a STRONG Waterford accent. A mild one I quite like. :)
    dlofnep wrote: »
    Wait, what accent does Dudess have?
    :D - I said a STRONG Cork accent. A mild one I have. :)
    A racist opinion.
    Go look up the definition of racist. Disliking the sound of an accent (the same way one might dislike the sound of, say, Westlife) is really not racist. I'm sure there are accents you dislike the sound of - would you agree you're racist towards people with those accents so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    getz wrote: »
    its all down to the irish comedians who make a big living in the uk by taking the piss out of themselfs by tell irish jokes [thatthey invented not the english] i am sure a english comedian could also make a living in ireland telling british jokes -there was this scotsman who married a native american they called there first son-hawk hi de new
    If you look back over the decades at the amount of established Irish celebs in the UK ie , tv hosts like Terry Wogan /Graham Norton /Eamon Holmes /Gloria huningford then you have popular acts like Boyzone , Westlife ,U2 , Dannial O Donnal and many others ,you see that they had no problem fitting in and being accepted by the british main stream public.Some of them even got knigthoods out of it ( Wogan /Geldof ) . They themself's become part of the ' Establisment ' while also retaining there irish indenity .;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Dudess wrote: »
    :D - I said a STRONG Waterford accent. A mild one I quite like. :)

    I'll let you be the judge!
    Dudess wrote: »
    :D - I said a STRONG Cork accent. A mild one I have. :)

    I'll be the judge :D
    Dudess wrote: »
    Go look up the definition of racist. Disliking the sound of an accent (the same way one might dislike the sound of, say, Westlife) is really not racist. I'm sure there are accents you dislike the sound of - would you agree you're racist towards people with those accents so?

    So I hear you're a racist now, Dudess? :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    User Named wrote: »
    Having lived in England for the past 4 years, I was alway's prone to a paddy's joke, mocking of my voice etc. just typical steriotyping. It made me wonder why is it that the English always take the piss out of the Irish but the Irish never really take the piss out of the English. Maybe the odd scouse accent 'calm down calm' but thats it. Why is this and do you mock the English apart from the usual patriot comments like 'u'll never beat the Irish'....any thoughts?

    Probably because on the whole they are a better race of people than us. Two islands, both roughly the same size in the same geographic location. One whose people managed to take over the planet for over a century and remain a major world power to this date, the other achieving nothing of note beyond producing some contributiors to the arts whilst the rest of the population sat around begrudging themselves and everyone else in view whilst getting drunk to self-perpetuate, only stopping occasionally to collectively pat themself on the back whenever 'they' achieved something minor in sport or popular entertainment, purely as a subconcious means to distract themselves from the complete non-effect they have managed to have on world history and social evolution.

    And before any smart alec chips in, yes the former was Great Britain and latter Ireland. Thank you very much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    Probably because on the whole they are a better race of people than us. Two islands, both roughly the same size in the same geographic location. One whose people managed to take over the planet for over a century and remain a major world power to this date, the other achieving nothing of note beyond producing some contributiors to the arts whilst the rest of the population sat around begrudging themselves and everyone else in view whilst getting drunk to self-perpetuate, only stopping occasionally to collectively pat themself on the back whenever 'they' achieved something minor in sport or popular entertainment, purely as a subconcious means to distract themselves from the complete non-effect they have managed to have on world history and social evolution.

    You forgot to mention the crippling Irish self-hatred!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    TPD wrote: »
    Being Irish you notice the Irish jokes coming from English people more than the English jokes coming from Irish. If you were English and came over here, youd notice a lot more English jokes than you would have noticed Irish jokes back in England.

    I just confused myself.
    true. It appears very few people in Ireland can say the word brit without putting the word "****ing" in front of it. It gets a bit tiresome after a while.

    The banter is different in England, everyone gets a slagging over accents etc, christ have you ever heard the abuse the welsh get (baaaah). A geordie would get the piss taken in London and a londoner would get abuse in Newcastle.

    The Irish seem very sensitive to it though and whilst it is perfectly acceptable the criticise England and the English for absolutely everything, it is another example of 800 years of oppression if anyone in England dare criticise Ireland or the Irish. Even simple reporting on the Irish economy is perceived as taking delight in the dumb paddies ****ing up:rolleyes:

    Anyway, the Cab Innit (That ****ing awful "Mockney" accent really does my head in) story reminded me of this http://cp1302ger.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/super-cake/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,309 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    true. It appears very few people in Ireland can say the word brit without putting the word "****ing" in front of it. It gets a bit tiresome after a while.

    The banter is different in England, everyone gets a slagging over accents etc, christ have you ever heard the abuse the welsh get (baaaah). A geordie would get the piss taken in London and a londoner would get abuse in Newcastle.

    The Irish seem very sensitive to it though and whilst it is perfectly acceptable the criticise England and the English for absolutely everything, it is another example of 800 years of oppression if anyone in England dare criticise Ireland or the Irish. Even simple reporting on the Irish economy is perceived as taking delight in the dumb paddies ****ing up:rolleyes:

    Anyway, the Cab Innit (That ****ing awful "Mockney" accent really does my head in) story reminded me of this http://cp1302ger.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/super-cake/

    A person whom I've had the displeasure of meeting, never says "****ing Brit", preferring to use "Cockney Cunt" for anybody born anywhere in England. He obviously believes that Bow Bells are a lot louder than they actually are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭deco05ie


    A racist opinion.
    The Irish aren't a race


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    All these posts ....like this one
    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    Probably because on the whole they are a better race of people than us. Two islands, both roughly the same size in the same geographic location. One whose people managed to take over the planet for over a century and remain a major world power to this date, the other achieving nothing of note beyond producing some contributiors to the arts whilst the rest of the population sat around begrudging themselves and everyone else in view whilst getting drunk to self-perpetuate, only stopping occasionally to collectively pat themself on the back whenever 'they' achieved something minor in sport or popular entertainment, purely as a subconcious means to distract themselves from the complete non-effect they have managed to have on world history and social evolution.

    And before any smart alec chips in, yes the former was Great Britain and latter Ireland. Thank you very much

    And this one ....
    Acacia wrote: »
    You forgot to mention the crippling Irish self-hatred!;)


    And this one ...
    true. It appears very few people in Ireland can say the word brit without putting the word "****ing" in front of it. It gets a bit tiresome after a while.

    The banter is different in England, everyone gets a slagging over accents etc, christ have you ever heard the abuse the welsh get (baaaah). A geordie would get the piss taken in London and a londoner would get abuse in Newcastle.

    The Irish seem very sensitive to it though and whilst it is perfectly acceptable the criticise England and the English for absolutely everything, it is another example of 800 years of oppression if anyone in England dare criticise Ireland or the Irish. Even simple reporting on the Irish economy is perceived as taking delight in the dumb paddies ****ing up:rolleyes:

    Anyway, the Cab Innit (That ****ing awful "Mockney" accent really does my head in) story reminded me of this http://cp1302ger.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/super-cake/

    All make sense :)

    Re the cake - That had to be a piss take right ? LOL :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭fourfiveone


    The English are the easiest people to take the piss out of and usually take it well. Personal favourites are:

    1. Pointing out how they were conquered by the French in 1066 and all their success since then are due to an elite ethnically Norman nobility rather the general Anglo-Saxon population.

    2. Telling them that since the UK was established, England is only a province anyway.

    3. Pointing out that their royal family are german. Their real surname is Saxe Coburg Gotha, they all have german names (Charles=Karl, William=Wilhelm etc), they even give Christmas presents on Christmas Eve in keeping with german custom.

    4. Any time something unfortunate happens sighing 'Jesus! You used to have an empire. Now look at you'. 99.9% think you're serious and reply 'I know' and start wistfully imagining the days when Johnny Foreigner knew his place

    5. Pretend guessing that they are slightly lower in social class than they are or think they are.

    6. Or pretend guessing they went to public school, had a nanny and went skiing every winter when they are insanely 'prahd of moi workin' class roots'

    7. Straight-faced, faux-concernedly telling them that sterling will end up like the lira or pesata. 'We'll be paying £10,000 for a cup of tea if things keep up' etc. Just started this.

    8. Laughing at how they herd together in groups and sing inane chants at each other if they're out for the night. The smaller the group, the funnier. Obviously don't point this out to the group just target an individual, eye roll, backward nod then he'll usually make some sheepish response then start laying into his 'mates' despite the fact he was bellowing 'get your tits out!' with same 'mates' five minutes beforehand.

    9. Catch them using one word like 'frightfully'. Point it out then tell them they use Famous Five words like 'beastly', 'what, ho', 'jolly good' etc all the time. Be insistent, they are so insecure about class they'll end up believing you or at least doubting themselves. Obviously this won't work with a kid from Camden.

    10. Tell them that to be posh in England all you have to do is stop using vowels (hml hmpstd, ppl, etc). Tell them in Ireland everyone owns at least 200 acres of their own land and no-one is posh.

    As I said though, they invariably take it well to be fair


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