We dont take the piss outa English as they do us!!

User Named

Having lived in England for the past 4 years, I was alway's prone to a paddy's joke, mocking of my voice etc. just typical steriotyping. It made me wonder why is it that the English always take the piss out of the Irish but the Irish never really take the piss out of the English. Maybe the odd scouse accent 'calm down calm' but thats it. Why is this and do you mock the English apart from the usual patriot comments like 'u'll never beat the Irish'....any thoughts?

GhostInTheRuins

Because we are more sophisticated obviously.

Latchy

Sounds like you have a complex of sorts OP .

Terry

We're not allowed. People will think we're unsophisticated or have a complex.

HarryPalmer

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Because we are more sophisticated obviously.

Reluctantly, K+.
That's it. The Irish, as they stand now, are simply better educated. Of course, Fianna Fail will change that. In all honesty, there is something so deep in the English psyche with regard to their place in the world... don't even bother trying to understand. With an Irish accent, you're going nowhere We don't care, but Jeez do they"

User Named

latchyco wrote: »

Sounds like you have a complex of sorts OP .

Dont we all have a complex of sorts when it comes to the English??

Dudess

User Named wrote: »

Having lived in England for the past 4 years, I was alway's prone to a paddy's joke, mocking of my voice etc. just typical steriotyping. It made me wonder why is it that the English always take the piss out of the Irish but the Irish never really take the piss out of the English. Maybe the odd scouse accent 'calm down calm' but thats it. Why is this and do you mock the English apart from the usual patriot comments like 'u'll never beat the Irish'....any thoughts?

Irish accents are generally more mockable than English accents.

CamperMan

User Named wrote: »

Having lived in England for the past 4 years, I was alway's prone to a paddy's joke, mocking of my voice etc. just typical steriotyping. It made me wonder why is it that the English always take the piss out of the Irish but the Irish never really take the piss out of the English. Maybe the odd scouse accent 'calm down calm' but thats it. Why is this and do you mock the English apart from the usual patriot comments like 'u'll never beat the Irish'....any thoughts?

don't get so upset about it!, the Brits take the p!ss out of everyone, even their own

Terry

English bastard.
English bastard.
Big, fat, ugly English bastard.

User Named

Fr. Ted and Ian Paisley seem mostly to be the weapons of choice!

SV

cos everyone wants to pretend like they give a fúck but truth be told.. noone does.

Latchy

User Named wrote: »

Dont we all have a complex of sorts when it comes to the English??

Well it depends .I live in England and shed any hang ups, as well as pre concieved ideas I might have had about England and the English long ago .Living in a smaller Island ,our history and the fact that there are more English / British might go some way to explaining any complex .

CamperMan wrote: »

don't get so upset about it!, the Brits take the p!ss out of everyone, even their own

Indeed they do, specially their own

HarryPalmer

Don't slag off Vegas. He's great.

Snowie

Dudess wrote: »

Irish accents are generally more mockable than English accents.

Dissagree i can do fick cokney to sleezy west london to scouse welsh scotish lead's, manc cornish, out of them all birmingham is so hard....

SoupyNorman

Well, being called a 'Paddy' does hurt but I'd rather that then being on the IRA's things to do list...

Latchy

bravestarr082 wrote: »

Well, being called a 'Paddy' does hurt

And yet paddy by it's conatations is much the same as a scot being called Jock or welsh being called Taff and not nessacarly a put down . Just as the Germans still refer to an Englishman as Tommie and the french call the English rose beefs

Unpossible

Meh, roll with it or ham it up. Youd be amazed at how much you could get away with

Guy:Incognito

Because if we annoy them too much they'll come over and put manners on us again.

RonMexico

Because we have more pathetic people to slag, like our Eastern European Dole Tourists

tipptipp

why make fun of them... just kill them...... now thats funny

Latchy

I love when we beat them at rugby .:)

MIN2511

We do take the piss! I do anyways...

Latchy

I remember being asked by some English people if the Irish tell jokes and take the piss out of the English ? to which I stright as a dye replied '' What ? of course they do , all the time '' which went down hillariously . Irish alternitive comedians like Dylan Moran are popular in England / UK and although not a fan of Frank Carsons style of comedy ( to out dated ) some of his Irish / English - English / irish jokes are quite funny .

Craft25

auwoit geeezzaahhhhh!!

MIN2511

I worked with this ginge british guy... i loved calling him a fcuking brit! lol... He always called me a 419 fraudster so happy days!

Craft25

They love it when you remind them how the romans never conquered us!!

Rented Mule

Is this really a thread about being 'victims' of the English in 2009 ?

Lets be focking having you.

Terry

Craft25 wrote: »

They love it when you remind them how the romans never conquered us!!

The Romans were pussies compared to the mighty Celts.

Rented Mule wrote: »

Is this really a thread about being 'victims' of the English in 2009 ?

Of course.
Now you can grumble about it or you can make light of it. The decision is yours.
I see you're in America, so you will probably grumble about it and about how Ireland sucks compared to America and bore us all to tears about how good your life is over there.
Now I do admire you for making a move and doing well for yourself, but we all know why we live here and none of us need reminding.

Also, kudos on being sophisticated.

Ardscoil Ris

I just opened my window and told England to fúck off. They're all limey bastards.

Happy now?

starn

I think it might have something to do with Ireland being a horrible backward hole. Where we cant do anything right, and Englands not. Just a thought

Terry

Ardscoil Ris wrote: »

I just opened my window and told England to fúck off. They're all limey bastards.

Happy now?

It only counts if your window is facing East.

starn wrote: »

I think it might have something to do with Ireland being a horrible backward hole. Where we cant do anything right, and Englands not. Just a thought

Ooh arr. Fine bunch of highly intelligent and sophisticated folk, them English.
Just caught the last episode of road wars. Such a gentle people. Not a bad bone in them.
Afghanistan says hello.
Iraq tried, but communications have been cut.

Rented Mule

Terry wrote: »

I see you're in America, so you will probably grumble about it and about how Ireland sucks compared to America and bore us all to tears about how good your life is over there.
Now I do admire you for making a move and doing well for yourself, but we all know why we live here and none of us need reminding.

Also, kudos on being sophisticated.

Wow ....if that isn't one of the oddest comebacks that I have ever read.

Seriously, it is 2009. Get on with life and move along. People need to quit playing the victims and take control of their own destinites.

Love Ireland as I have been coming over since 1981 to see some of the extended family and friends, I have lived here with my wife and children for a few years now. I have spent more time defending the Irish more than anything else.

I'm not sure what sort of reminding I was trying to do for you.

alexandros

According to most Americans the only good thing to ever come out of England was Monty Python.
However I do not believe that it has anything to do with how sophisticated the British are.

To compare now; Ireland has Guinness (and leprechauns).. It’s too easy.:D

tipptipp

Originally Posted by Ardscoil Ris
I just opened my window and told England to fúck off. They're all limey bastards.

Happy now?


the wind caught it and i got it here in Tipp instead... its ok tho i've passed it on my tan neighbour:cool:

SoupyNorman

Terry wrote: »

It only counts if your window is facing East.

Heres a tip:

-when you feel like roaring some abuse at our Cromwell-esqe neighbors you can use your Sky Dish as an accurate marker for the direction.

Rented Mule

alexander.t wrote: »

According to most Americans the only good thing to ever come out of England was Monty Python.
However I do not believe that it has anything to do with how sophisticated the British are.

I'll give them credit for recycling Chicago Blues and giving it back to white America....and the rest of the world.

Terry

Rented Mule wrote: »

Wow ....if that isn't one of the oddest comebacks that I have ever read.

Seriously, it is 2009. Get on with life and move along. People need to quit playing the victims and take control of their own destinites.

Love Ireland as I have been coming over since 1981 to see some of the extended family and friends, I have lived here with my wife and children for a few years now. I have spent more time defending the Irish more than anything else.

I'm not sure what sort of reminding I was trying to do for you.

What?
I'm drunk and read your location as Chicago via Dublin. Woooo. Stereotype.

My point there was that we get a lot of people leaving here and then looking down their noses at everyone still living here. They seem to think that working in a cafe in Brooklyn is a far better life than working as a solicitor in <insert town here>.
They will then ramble on about how much life is better "over there", but when you ask them why they came back, they suddenly go silent.
Then you tell them that this is Ireland and not America and they start going on about Disney land. ****ing idiots.

Craft25

We all live in America now boys - the only differences are the tax breaks!

Rented Mule

Terry wrote: »

What?
I'm drunk and read your location as Chicago via Dublin. Woooo. Stereotype.

My point there was that we get a lot of people leaving here and then looking down their noses at everyone still living here. They seem to think that working in a cafe in Brooklyn is a far better life than working as a solicitor in <insert town here>.
They will then ramble on about how much life is better "over there", but when you ask them why they came back, they suddenly go silent.
Then you tell them that this is Ireland and not America and they start going on about Disney land. ****ing idiots.

Well ....my locations reads Dublin via Chicago....but it is a friday night so I'll account for alcohol induced dyslexia. lol

Ok ...so your problem is with the Irish that left and are happier for it.

Can't blame them. You people get quite contrary when you (drinkk and)type lol

SoupyNorman

Craft25 wrote: »

We all live in America now boys - the only differences are the tax breaks!

...And the History, Heritage, intelligence, superior education system and..



oh yes 5000miles of ocean.

Rented Mule

Craft25 wrote: »

We all live in America now boys - the only differences are the tax breaks!

Two BIFFOS .....less Mexicans.

Rented Mule

bravestarr082 wrote: »

...And the History, Heritage, intelligence, superior education system and..



oh yes 5000miles of ocean.

Well .....3500 miles of ocean, but who is counting ??

You do have the history and the heritage......the rest is open to interpretation on an individiual basis.

I do have a few issues with the supposedly 'superior' education system, but I guess you can't always make everyone happy.

SoupyNorman

Rented Mule wrote: »

Well .....3500 miles of ocean, but who is counting ??

You do have the history and the heritage......the rest is open to interpretation on an individiual basis.

I do have a few issues with the supposedly 'superior' education system, but I guess you can't always make everyone happy.

I'm not saying Our education system is anything special, I'm just saying that the US one is a bad, real bad, among other things the inequalities and discrimination on the basis of wealth/Race and social and political standing that exist when you get to college level are abhorrent, some of the smartest minds in America could live in the most underprivileged areas and they wont even get a look at the inside of a college, at least here everyone has the option.

Edit:

When I say bad, I mean the way it is structured. i.e. The path from kindergarden to college.

Jazzy

yes we do

Lirange

Dudess wrote: »

Irish accents are generally more mockable than English accents.

A teenager called directory inquiries to book a taxi but ended up having a cabinet delivered – because she asked for a “cab, innit”.

link

Rented Mule

bravestarr082 wrote: »

I'm not saying Our education system is anything special, I'm just saying that the US one is a bad, real bad, among other things the inequalities and discrimination on the basis of wealth/Race and social and political standing that exist when you get to college level are abhorrent, some of the smartest minds in America could live in the most underprivileged areas and they wont even get a look at the inside of a college, at least here everyone has the option.

Edit:

When I say bad, I mean the way it is structured. i.e. The path from kindergarden to college.

That's an easy way to look at things from the outside, but much of the problem far exceeds what happens when the children from the 'poorer' (for lack of a better word) start school.

Schools are a reflection of the neighborhoods and what the residents put into them, as well as the parents preparing thier kids for school on a daily basis.

You're dealing with family structures that are completely maternal dominant without any male role in the childrens lives, with four to five generations living together trying to make a living. I wouldn't have believe it until I was meeting 44 year old great-grandmothers.

I grew up on the southside of Chicago and my parents made it a point to pay to send us to Catholic schools. As a matter of fact, I graduated (and later worked) from a Christian Brothers School. I had the same eduactation as many of you on the boards.

You have no idea how much money and advantages that these students had over me when it came to applying to universities. I was penalised for being white in many cases in order to fulfil quotas.

'Disadvantaged'is a very strange term touse when it comes to education when you look at the bigger picture.

An Fear Aniar

Terry wrote: »

The Romans were pussies compared to the mighty Celts.

What? The Gauls were Celts.

Gaul was one of the first Roman provinces.


.

Terry

Rented Mule wrote: »

That's an easy way to look at things from the outside, but much of the problem far exceeds what happens when the children from the 'poorer' (for lack of a better word) start school.

Schools are a reflection of the neighborhoods and what the residents put into them, as well as the parents preparing thier kids for school on a daily basis.

You're dealing with family structures that are completely maternal dominant without any male role in the childrens lives, with four to five generations living together trying to make a living. I wouldn't have believe it until I was meeting 44 year old great-grandmothers.

I grew up on the southside of Chicago and my parents made it a point to pay to send us to Catholic schools. As a matter of fact, I graduated (and later worked) from a Christian Brothers School. I had the same eduactation as many of you on the boards.

You have no idea how much money and advantages that these students had over me when it came to applying to universities. I was penalised for being white in many cases in order to fulfil quotas.

'Disadvantaged'is a very strange term touse when it comes to education when you look at the bigger picture.

Oh I completely agree.
I went to a private school and we had top teachers who had gained qualifications from the most prestigious schools in the country.
Our education was second to none.

I do tend to feel sorry for the povs at times, because they do not have the advantages I had and are destined to a life of desparation.
On the other hand, I know they will always be on the dole and will be spending my hard earned tax on cigarettes.

It really is a tough call for us to make when it comes to the povs.

deadhead13

User Named wrote: »

Having lived in England for the past 4 years, I was alway's prone to a paddy's joke, mocking of my voice etc. just typical steriotyping. It made me wonder why is it that the English always take the piss out of the Irish but the Irish never really take the piss out of the English. Maybe the odd scouse accent 'calm down calm' but thats it. Why is this and do you mock the English apart from the usual patriot comments like 'u'll never beat the Irish'....any thoughts?

What part of England are you living in. I was in london for years and can't even think of one incidence where this issue came up. And if it had, it wouldn't have bothered me.

CHD

Ireland>England

They slag us because we are the win, and they aren't.

And we take the piss outa them cause they suck.