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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    Rb wrote: »
    I would never live with a muslim or scientologist though, regardless of the strength of their faith.
    Ah come on, Scientologists aren't all bad: I'd love to live with Catherine Bell (Not very SFW). She could practice her Scientology sorcery in front of me all day as long as I could **** in her room when she went out. Do Scientologist girls put out on the first date, I wonder?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Myxomatosis


    towel401 wrote: »
    wtf is it with the religion-bashing in this place?

    its like having everyone agree with you in A&A isn't good enough for these anti-religous wackos so they come over to here to ruin this perfectly good forum with their anti-religous tripe. rly i couldn't give 2 ****s about you or your room mate so gtfo

    What's the matter? you just finished reading 'the god delusion' and think you have something to tell the rest of us?

    Have you come back from Mass and think you have something to tell me?

    I don't need to read any books or listen to other peoples opinions on the matter. I am well able to form my own opinions, and it is blatantly obvious that there is no god, is no after life, and there is no greater purpose to our existence.

    So you think there is a God and you are special and God loves you and when you die you're going off to some cloudy place for the rest of eternity? How ****ing sad is that? Are you really that weak minded, and unable to accept the fact that you are not special?

    Answer me this. What was it like, or what was your experience before you were born? It was nothing. You didn't exist. Your brain didn't exist therefore your "mind" didn't exist.

    When you die, your brain stops working, and rots away. Therefore your "mind" will no longer exist. And it will be like before you were born. Nothing.

    I know the thought of nothing after you die scares you, because that's the fundamental thing that religion and your beliefs play on.

    I personally think anyone who is religious is a very sad, and incomplete individual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭JangoFett


    I had to let a maintenance guy into our apartment today and into a roommates room.

    The room mate has stuff moved into the room for a few months but hasn't even spent a night here yet I don't think.

    Anyway, first time I've seen inside the room and he has all these religious pictures set up on the desk, like a little shrine, or praying spot.

    I honestly feel slightly uneasy about the prospect of living with this guy and him being so religious delusional.

    How could you place any trust in a person who obviously has such little intelligence that he actually prays to "God"?

    BTW this is not a thread about Religion, it's about a fundamental mistrust I have in religious people.


    Buy loads of FSM merch and just leave it around the house


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭towel401


    Have you come back from Mass and think you have something to tell me?

    I don't need to read any books or listen to other peoples opinions on the matter. I am well able to form my own opinions, and it is blatantly obvious that there is no god, is no after life, and there is no greater purpose to our existence.

    So you think there is a God and you are special and God loves you and when you die you're going off to some cloudy place for the rest of eternity? How ****ing sad is that? Are you really that weak minded, and unable to accept the fact that you are not special?

    Answer me this. What was it like, or what was your experience before you were born? It was nothing. You didn't exist. Your brain didn't exist therefore your "mind" didn't exist.

    When you die, your brain stops working, and rots away. Therefore your "mind" will no longer exist. And it will be like before you were born. Nothing.

    I know the thought of nothing after you die scares you, because that's the fundamental thing that religion and your beliefs play on.

    I personally think anyone who is religious is a very sad, and incomplete individual.

    i never claimed religious at all. just saying how annoying it is to have this anti-religious crap posted in here over and over again, go find someone else to rant at cause you're barking up the wrong ****ing tree here

    and besides i'm just a PHP script that posts **** on boards, and as a PHP script the prospect of having to keep running for all eternity scares the **** out of me more than anything else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Your lack of religion probably bothers him

    but

    he probably keeps his opinions to himself cos your lack of religion is none of his business


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Wagon wrote: »
    Have to agree with this. I had religion myself and gave it up cos it just seemed bollix. But i certainly don't look down on those that practice it. High IQ's don't define intellegence either. I know some people with big IQ's and they act like complete retards :p

    OP, has he got an xbox 360? See if he has an Xbox 360. If he doesn't ask him if you both want to go halves on an Xbox 360 and see what he says. If it's a "no, it's the work of the devil" then you got a problem. If he says "yes" and goes out and buys Pro Evo, Mercenaries and Far Cry 2 then you'll get along just fine :)

    However if he buys Fifa, then you know you have to kill him at the next convenient moment :)

    OP stop being so dramatic. Just take the p*ss out of him behind his back and carry on with your life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭Mcfast


    Leave him to it?

    Yeah right. It's ***** like this that climb clock towers with a rifle in hand.

    I'm going to take him out before it's too late.


    actually its nutters with this attitude that think they have the right to judge people and act on it with violence that cause those kind of situations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    t

    Creationism: ok you don't believe in four million years of evolution

    Closer to 4 billion ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Svalbard


    I had to let a maintenance guy into our apartment today and into a roommates room.

    The room mate has stuff moved into the room for a few months but hasn't even spent a night here yet I don't think.

    Anyway, first time I've seen inside the room and he has all these religious pictures set up on the desk, like a little shrine, or praying spot.

    I honestly feel slightly uneasy about the prospect of living with this guy and him being so religious delusional.

    How could you place any trust in a person who obviously has such little intelligence that he actually prays to "God"?

    BTW this is not a thread about Religion, it's about a fundamental mistrust I have in religious people.

    Anything in your bedroom that might lead people to judge you, Myxamatosis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    How could you place any trust in a person who obviously has such little intelligence that he actually prays to "God"?


    Not sure from the sounds of it if your roomate is Christian,but for the record here's a few names of some Christian believers-people who could hardly be of 'little intellegence'.



    Robert Boyle - scientist and chemist

    Michael Faraday - physicist, formulated laws electromagnetic induction, did groundwork for making dynamos, electric motors and transformers

    James Joule - science of thermodynamics

    William Thompson a.k.a. Lord Kelvin - thermodynamics and the Kelvin, temperature scale

    Johannes Kepler - laws of planetary motion (more on Kepler)

    Carl Linnaeus - botanist, professor

    Matthew Maury - leading scientist in oceanography and hydrography

    James Clerk Maxwell - electromagnetic theory

    Samuel F.B. Morse - invented the telegraph, Morse code is named after him

    Isaac Newton - laws of gravity, motion and calculus

    Blaise Pascal - invented early calculator, helped discover the theory of probability

    Louis Pasteur - invented vaccination, immunization and pasteurization

    Sir Henry Rawlinson - archaeologist

    George Stokes - physicist and mathematician


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭pierrot


    Yes, but they all lived before we disproved god!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Trying to remember the quote from Brendan Behan, something along the lines of "I don't believe in God, except when I'm alone and it's dark and there's something moving around under my bed"...

    It's not that I don't believe in God as such, it's religion I have a big problem with.
    The meek shall not inherit the earth, they'll just be pissed and shat on in the name of whatever "God" that religion has decided to use to control your feeble mind with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Agamemnon wrote: »
    Ah come on, Scientologists aren't all bad: I'd love to live with Catherine Bell (Not very SFW).

    Praise Xenu brother! :D

    One of the girls in the house I'm in is seriously religious, her friends come over and chant in tongues, it's part of some kind of African christian church. The problem I have with her though is her terrible cooking, she burns everything to the pots. The religion just doesn't come into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 holyshow


    Are you sure he's definitely religious?

    Our house has some religious icons as we collect them. I think they look amazing as bits of art. I'm in no way religious at all. People do think we're religious sometimes though, which is understandable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Jigsaw


    I'm not overly religious but I do believe in God but I don't preach about it. I go out for drinks, swear a bit and live a normal life. What I find more objectionable is gimpish people who love to pretend they hold strong opinions in a vain attempt to appear interesting and hip. People who express these "cool" athiest views are rather tiresome. They will all have been to religious services for weddings and funerals etc and when the day comes that they lie on their death bed the mast majority will change their tune. I'm right and subsequent posts to the contrary are irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    So f**king what?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    Oh and Jigsaw-I strongly agree with the point you made about people on their death bed changing their tune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭pierrot


    They can change their tune all they want, they ain't goin nowhere


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Jigsaw wrote: »
    I'm not overly religious but I do believe in God but I don't preach about it. I go out for drinks, swear a bit and live a normal life. What I find more objectionable is gimpish people who love to pretend they hold strong opinions in a vain attempt to appear interesting and hip. People who express these "cool" athiest views are rather tiresome. They will all have been to religious services for weddings and funerals etc and when the day comes that they lie on their death bed the mast majority will change their tune. I'm right and subsequent posts to the contrary are irrelevant.
    You're so right man.
    bigeasyeah wrote: »
    Oh and Jigsaw-I strongly agree with the point you made about people on their death bed changing their tune.

    Therefore God exists...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Stay_in_Kampuchea


    Splendour wrote: »
    Not sure from the sounds of it if your roomate is Christian,but for the record here's a few names of some Christian believers-people who could hardly be of 'little intellegence'.



    Robert Boyle - scientist and chemist

    Michael Faraday - physicist, formulated laws electromagnetic induction, did groundwork for making dynamos, electric motors and transformers

    James Joule - science of thermodynamics

    William Thompson a.k.a. Lord Kelvin - thermodynamics and the Kelvin, temperature scale

    Johannes Kepler - laws of planetary motion (more on Kepler)

    Carl Linnaeus - botanist, professor

    Matthew Maury - leading scientist in oceanography and hydrography

    James Clerk Maxwell - electromagnetic theory

    Samuel F.B. Morse - invented the telegraph, Morse code is named after him

    Isaac Newton - laws of gravity, motion and calculus

    Blaise Pascal - invented early calculator, helped discover the theory of probability

    Louis Pasteur - invented vaccination, immunization and pasteurization

    Sir Henry Rawlinson - archaeologist

    George Stokes - physicist and mathematician

    You Forgot Jesus. He walked on water


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    Why would you ever give a fúck about it?

    I don't care about my friends and relatives religious beliefs (or lack thereof) I really don't. I suppose I'm an agnostic if I think about it, but I don't really think about it. It's not that big a deal. Recently though, I've noticed that the only people who do seem to care are fundamentalist atheists. A few of my mates are what I would call practicing atheists, and it's amongst the most pretentious and tedious belief systems I've ever come across.

    It's none of your business, you clearly didn't know until you saw their room, so obviously they're not trying to convert you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    Dave! wrote: »
    You're so right man.



    Therefore God exists...?

    Explain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Jigsaw wrote: »
    I'm not overly religious but I do believe in God but I don't preach about it. I go out for drinks, swear a bit and live a normal life. What I find more objectionable is gimpish people who love to pretend they hold strong opinions in a vain attempt to appear interesting and hip. People who express these "cool" athiest views are rather tiresome. They will all have been to religious services for weddings and funerals etc and when the day comes that they lie on their death bed the mast majority will change their tune. I'm right and subsequent posts to the contrary are irrelevant.

    You're right, militant atheists are as bad as fundamental religious people. Anyone who trys to force their views on another is wrong. But people can discuss it, can't they?

    It's hard to get through life without going to weddings and funerals because a lot of people still adhere to these rituals - if you want to show support and/or friendship at those times you pretty much have to go. I had my own wedding in the reg office and my funeral will be a humanist ceremony where anyone can say what they want about me, followed by cremation, won't matter to me then anyway :)

    Point being, do what you want, if you were a friend of mine and got married or buried in the Vatican presided over by the Pope himself, I'd go if invited :)

    As for the death bed thing, another good point, they say there are no atheists in the foxholes, but to me you seem to be saying more about what you think of human nature then whether anyone actually converts at the last minute.

    The power of religion and the various Churches derives from peoples fear and weak will, they thrive on this, and until humans have advanced somewhat further, it will continue to be the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Jigsaw wrote: »
    They will all have been to religious services for weddings and funerals etc

    And, therefore, so? What's your point.
    Jigsaw wrote: »
    and when the day comes that they lie on their death bed the mast majority will change their tune. I'm right and subsequent posts to the contrary are irrelevant.

    That's impossible to know, you're just assuming that because it makes you feel superior for having picked the 'right' answer all along.

    Of course this ignores that fact that you've no idea if it's the right answer or not, or if there even is an answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭johnmacward


    How could you place any trust in a person who obviously has such little intelligence that he actually prays to "God"?

    BTW this is not a thread about Religion, it's about a fundamental mistrust I have in religious people.
    I'm an atheist and I find this pretty insulting. It clearly suggests that you have a pretty low opinion of most people in the world for that matter, because a huge percentage are religious, I don't know whether you realise this.

    I think that belief in religion generally is not a great idea, its an opinion I hold for many reasons. Mainly the basis for belief that most people have anyway. It's not thought out, you receive it at childhood and the negative basis for non-belief is very powerful (you may end up in purgatory, hell etc.). When I was growing up it was quite powerful on me so I can understand how people come around to believe, but it definitely doesn't suggest low intelligence. It's just one thing this person doesn't think about and there are thousands of things we should all think about.

    For example, how many of us engage ourselves in serious ways to decrease carbon emissions (a massive threat to our survival, confirmed, not debatable anymore). A very few people concern themselves seriously with this issue, and most of us don't think about it too much at all (we might just about recycle). Does that make most of us seriously unintelligent, because the clever thing to do would be to work in serious ways to halt the threat. Possibly, the original poster of this thread doesn't even really care (I don't know of course) and if this is the case who's really intelligent? The answer is, of course it doesn't suggest that most of us are incredibly stupid, there's just lots of things in the world that we should concern ourselves with but don't have time because of the way things are set up for us.

    I think what the original poster is suggesting is that the religious flatmate hasn't thought about evolution and the creation of the earth etc. I'm a marxist and I wish everyone I come up to would think about the development of societies from a marxist perspective, but they don't. Our society is constructed in such a way as to push religious ideas, and even from the societal perspective to train everyone to think that everyone is out for themselves, that competitive spirit everywhere is praiseworthy, co-operation is useless etc. Think of our Christian Brother schools. When I was there, I didn't hear the word evolution once. We had religious classes and science classes in biology, chemistry and physics and in none of these classes did we ever discuss evolution or the actual proven development of out planet. And when we grow up we don't really have massive debates about it, we're more concerned about Coronation St. and Dancing On Ice or not disrespecting the Lord or something, so its not thought about. None of this for one second suggests lack of intelligence, just something else we haven't thought about yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    You Forgot Jesus. He walked on water
    David Copperfield walked through the great wall of China but you wouldn't call him a scientists would you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭johnmacward


    ScumLord wrote: »
    David Copperfield walked through the great wall of China but you wouldn't call him a scientists would you?
    Take that religious heads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Jigsaw wrote: »
    I'm right and subsequent posts to the contrary are irrelevant.

    Spoken like a true believer. Just hope you picked the right God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    I'm an atheist and I find this pretty insulting. It clearly suggests that you have a pretty low opinion of most people in the world for that matter, because a huge percentage are religious, I don't know whether you realise this.

    I'm an Atheist, and I have a low opinion of most of the world.

    [Topic for the A&A/Christianity forum]
    The Roman Catholic Church is a sham based on the beliefs of 'Saviours' dating back thousands of years before the supposed birth of Christ.
    [/Topic for the A&A/Christianity forum]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,049 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    I had to let a maintenance guy into our apartment today and into a roommates room.

    The room mate has stuff moved into the room for a few months but hasn't even spent a night here yet I don't think.

    Anyway, first time I've seen inside the room and he has all these religious pictures set up on the desk, like a little shrine, or praying spot.

    I honestly feel slightly uneasy about the prospect of living with this guy and him being so religious delusional.

    How could you place any trust in a person who obviously has such little intelligence that he actually prays to "God"?

    BTW this is not a thread about Religion, it's about a fundamental mistrust I have in religious people.

    In general, are you tolerant of people who are not like you?


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