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Taxi driver protest

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  • #212
    Taxipete29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    Terrontress wrote: »
    I made the point that there are large numbers of taxi who you deem less suitable than you to do the job you are currently doing.

    Your response seems to agree, tailed with the point that people on here are looking down on taxi drivers. It doesn't really take what I said about you into account.

    Just because I deem them less suitable does not mean I am looking down on them which was what you originally said. Added to that I dont think I made any reference to a large number of drivers, I said I dont agree with how some drivers operate, which in no way denotes any specific number large or small.

    You said I was wrong about people looking down on drivers and I am not , the language and tone of the posts show that people do. I was pointing out that if you think I look down on other drivers, I dont see how you can say some posters here dont look down on taxi drivers in general.


  • #213
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,932 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Taxipete29 wrote: »
    Just because I deem them less suitable does not mean I am looking down on them which was what you originally said. Added to that I dont think I made any reference to a large number of drivers, I said I dont agree with how some drivers operate, which in no way denotes any specific number large or small.

    You said I was wrong about people looking down on drivers and I am not , the language and tone of the posts show that people do. I was pointing out that if you think I look down on other drivers, I dont see how you can say some posters here dont look down on taxi drivers in general.

    Hi Pete, I think I mispunctuated my original statement. I wasn't saying that you were wrong in saying that people were looking down on taxi drivers. What I meant was that you were claiming that people are looking down on taxi drivers and for them to do so is wrong.

    I was just trying to say that there are also elements in the taxi driving game that you have an issue with the way they operate.

    In both cases I think it is a generalisation.


  • #214
    Taxipete29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    Terrontress wrote: »
    Hi Pete, I think I mispunctuated my original statement. I wasn't saying that you were wrong in saying that people were looking down on taxi drivers. What I meant was that you were claiming that people are looking down on taxi drivers and for them to do so is wrong.

    I was just trying to say that there are also elements in the taxi driving game that you have an issue with the way they operate.

    In both cases I think it is a generalisation.

    Oh ok thats fair enough. I am almost amazed how something as small as a comma can make such a big difference lol.


  • #215
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,308 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    uma wrote: »
    i find it funny that you see no difference between regulation and deregulation and are basically saying that if you wanted deregulation when there were only 2.800 taxis in Dublin you should still have the same opinion when it has gone completly the other way at 16000 taxis !:D
    Nope. I'm saying that those who got in after deregulation cheaply now want a cap put on the amount of taxis seem to want their cake, and to eat it. They wanted deregulation, and now that it has come about, and they got in cheaply, they now want no taxi plates to be given as freely anymore.
    Spook_ie wrote: »
    We want a moritorium on license plates for a temporary period while a root n branch revision is made of the entire industry and people listen to the taxi drivers as well as the unions ( who don't represent all the drivers and indeed have some vested interests that directly oppose taxi DRIVERS interests )
    Never heard anything about the moratorium. Just heard a lot of taxi people saying there was too many taxis on the roads. My question is how many of those that complain are part of their own problem? They came into the taxi business as it was cheap to do so. They then find out as it was cheap to do so, many more have come in to the business. And thus they themselves are part of the problem of the over-saturation of taxis. It's true that there shouldn't have been such a "open the flood gates" for anyone to get a plate attitude by the government, but it's done. Closing the gates once more won't work. I'm not sure how themoratorium will work, but I would like to hear. I've haven't heard anything about this lately.
    buzzerbuckley wrote: »
    There is a cap on tv and radio stations another public service providers in ireland too.
    The cap on radio stations is due to the current lack of how much space there is on the radio band.

    The taxi companies are there to make a profit. And who would blame them? They are a private company.
    signman12 wrote: »
    we would all be happy if there was less competion in the marketplace, but we can't ask companies not to open because some of us in the same line might make less money.
    you just need to get on with it,
    it's not easy being a sole trader but that's your choice,
    Agreed.
    murphaph wrote: »
    Oh and just for information....there is no limit on the number of London Black Cabs. It is purely controlled by the difficulty in getting a licence due to the nature of the test.
    The test that ensures you know where to drive? If this test was brought in now, and every taxi driver had to take it within 3 months, or loose their plate, I'd say that it would solve the problem of too many taxis, whilst at the same time ensuring that the taxi people left knew their area, how to get there quickly, and what area's to avoid.


  • #216
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,932 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    I think that if taxi drivers lived with that threat hanging over their heads, the problems it would create would be immeasurable. Why would someone invest in a decent car when they could be kicked off the road in three months because a tester got out the wrong side of the bed that morning.

    I can't see a way out of the issue. You can't introduce draconian standards retrospectively. Those that are currently drivers should not be tossed out on their ear. And is it fair to introduce these standards on new entrants when 25,000 drivers haven't had to pass these. I don't think it's fair to prevent new entrants as the only difference between the majority of current drivers and new entrants is time. There could be guys saving for their license, car and meter that get prevented or else a kid who wants to drive a taxi when he grows up and are suddenly excluded.

    I really think it is fairest to just let the current situation continue, coupled with strict enforcement of regulations and traffic rules, which I believe may not be the case at present. On the flip-side, ensure that there are social welfare benefits and re-training opportunities for drivers who feel the need to get out.


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  • #217
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    the_syco wrote: »
    Nope. I'm saying that those who got in after deregulation cheaply now want a cap put on the amount of taxis seem to want their cake, and to eat it. They wanted deregulation, and now that it has come about, and they got in cheaply, they now want no taxi plates to be given as freely anymore.


    Never heard anything about the moratorium. Just heard a lot of taxi people saying there was too many taxis on the roads. My question is how many of those that complain are part of their own problem? They came into the taxi business as it was cheap to do so. They then find out as it was cheap to do so, many more have come in to the business. And thus they themselves are part of the problem of the over-saturation of taxis. It's true that there shouldn't have been such a "open the flood gates" for anyone to get a plate attitude by the government, but it's done. Closing the gates once more won't work. I'm not sure how themoratorium will work, but I would like to hear. I've haven't heard anything about this lately.


    The cap on radio stations is due to the current lack of how much space there is on the radio band.

    The taxi companies are there to make a profit. And who would blame them? They are a private company.


    Agreed.


    The test that ensures you know where to drive? If this test was brought in now, and every taxi driver had to take it within 3 months, or loose their plate, I'd say that it would solve the problem of too many taxis, whilst at the same time ensuring that the taxi people left knew their area, how to get there quickly, and what area's to avoid.

    A temporary moritorium is the only thing that TDFC are campaigning actively for, a call for a temporary moritorium is all that has been officialy released to the press, a temporary moritorium is the only thing that has been called on for the minister to action immediately.

    http://www.taxidriversforchange.com/aboutus.htm

    The taxi companies have an input to the The taxi Advisorary Council, the NTDU have an input to the TAC, some representatives of one have/had a vested interest in the other, most drivers contend, as with your statement ( they are private companies ) that you can't serve the interests of both
    http://solocheck.ie/IrishDirectorInfo?directorName=TOMMYGORMAN&directorDOB=000c1879574412020d060c
    this company currently has a permanent advert on this sitehttp://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=914006

    Coincidently firms on the TAC were advising that they couldn't get enough taxi drivers to cover the multitude of work they had, now as was stated back in previous threads the Taxi Companies make the majority of their profits from radio rentals, so for every 100 drivers they engage at €100 per week gives them a revenue stream in excess of half a million per year, why wouldn't they be wanting more drivers....

    There are numerous reasons why the taxi industry is in the turmoil of today and I find it disengenious of people to say "You only want to cap it because now you're in, you don't want further competition"
    What the TDFC want is as stated on their webpage and I fully support it...


  • #218
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Terrontress wrote: »

    I think that if taxi drivers lived with that threat hanging over their heads, the problems it would create would be immeasurable. Why would someone invest in a decent car when they could be kicked off the road in three months because a tester got out the wrong side of the bed that morning.


    That can be said for nearly every profesional into days climate. I've spent a considerable amount of money in CPD as its the edge that I'll probablyneed to keep my job.

    Out of interest of the taxt drivers who have posted here when did you become a taxi man?

    I see there is another protest today. Thats what 6 in the last month? Doesnt look like you are getting any where with it (I wonder why?). Why not go on all out strike?


  • #219
    Taxipete29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    kearnsr wrote: »
    That can be said for nearly every profesional into days climate. I've spent a considerable amount of money in CPD as its the edge that I'll probablyneed to keep my job.

    Out of interest of the taxt drivers who have posted here when did you become a taxi man?

    I see there is another protest today. Thats what 6 in the last month? Doesnt look like you are getting any where with it (I wonder why?). Why not go on all out strike?

    I have been a driver for nearly five years.

    The protest today is outside the regulators office while the advisory commitee is being presented with the long overdue Goodbody report into the economic situation in the industry. This protest seems to be have arranged very last minute so I doubt the turnout will be as large as previous ones.

    I think all drivers are eager to find out what this report will recommend and if its recommendations(if any) will be implemented. This will determine im sure any further actions by drivers.


  • #220
    godtabh
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    Interesting reading

    Seems a case of same old same old


  • #221
    dcr22B
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    kearnsr wrote: »
    Interesting reading

    Seems a case of same old same old

    Did you look at the date of that article kearsnr? There is a difference this time around.

    Taxi drivers back then were trying to protect investments, this time it's more about livelihoods and standards of service.

    I wouldn't call that "same old, same old".


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  • #222
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    dcr22B wrote: »
    Did you look at the date of that article kearsnr? There is a difference this time around.

    Taxi drivers back then were trying to protect investments, this time it's more about livelihoods and standards of service.

    I wouldn't call that "same old, same old".

    They were looking for a cap then and they are looking for a cap now.

    Nothing has changed


  • #223
    Jip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭Jip


    Well details from the Goodbody report that taxi drivers think is the smoking gun in all this has been released and has recommended against a cap of any sort nor do they agree that taxi drivers earnings have dropped but they are working longer hours. But of course some driver on the News at 1 knows better and claims this is all wrong and has made some sly swipes at other taxi drivers that aren't supporting them.


  • #224
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Taxipete29 wrote: »
    I have been a driver for nearly five years.

    The protest today is outside the regulators office while the advisory commitee is being presented with the long overdue Goodbody report into the economic situation in the industry. This protest seems to be have arranged very last minute so I doubt the turnout will be as large as previous ones.

    I think all drivers are eager to find out what this report will recommend and if its recommendations(if any) will be implemented. This will determine im sure any further actions by drivers.
    Jip wrote: »
    Well details from the Goodbody report that taxi drivers think is the smoking gun in all this has been released and has recommended against a cap of any sort nor do they agree that taxi drivers earnings have dropped but they are working longer hours. But of course some driver on the News at 1 knows better and claims this is all wrong and has made some sly swipes at other taxi drivers that aren't supporting them.


    I think the recomondations should be fully implemeted. What do you think Taxipete?

    I'm sure you have a different spin to it if it had been the other way around.

    I think its time to stop your protests.


  • #225
    Jip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭Jip


    Here's the details from the RTE website
    No moratorium on taxi licences, report advises
    Monday, 9 March 2009 13:12

    A long-awaited report on the future of the taxi industry has advised against a moratorium on the issuing of new licences.

    Taxi drivers protested for the sixth week in a row this morning demanding a restriction on licences.

    But the Goodbody Economic report has said there is a decline in the number of new licences and that a moratorium would not be justified.

    The report also says there is no evidence that taxi drivers' earnings are collapsing, but it acknowledges that they are working longer hours.


  • #226
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Spook_ie wrote: »

    A temporary moritorium is the only thing that TDFC are campaigning actively for, a call for a temporary moritorium is all that has been officialy released to the press, a temporary moritorium is the only thing that has been called on for the minister to action immediately.

    Looks like its not needed
    Taxipete29 wrote: »

    There will be a moratorium put on licences, I guarantee it and if I am wrong so be it, I will come on here and apologise, but I am honest enough in my convictions to say that. Doubt any of you can say the same and its not a persacution complex becasue I really dont care what people think of me on an internet forum. What I do care about is people spouting nonsense about the free-market and in the next breath referring to drivers as "a stain on society" ( not you, but others). This only re-affirms my belief that you just dont like taxi drivers and it has nothing to do with if you feel we are right or not.

    If there is a cap put in place in the morning there will still be more than enough taxis to meet demand even if the economy rebounds. 15k in dublin and there will always be drivers retiring/dying and just getting out so how will capping create any sort of "cosy cartel". The answer is it wont.

    My argument is not full of holes at all and I dont see where you get that from, you are an armchair economist that thinks the free market is the only way forward in all industries and its not, as it fails to recognise socail responsibility and as I said earlier in the example of dublin bus.

    The non armchair economist states that there is no need for a moratorium.

    I think its about time taxi men eat their hats


  • #227
    paulm17781
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    http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/eyaucwauauoj/ some more info on it.

    So far so good. I'm sure this won't stop the whinging and protesting.


  • #228
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Damn right it isn't going to slow or stop the protesting...
    I haven't read the entire publication yet but I did take a note of this inferal

    Driver earnings haven't declined but driver hours have increased, if my earnings haven't decreased why am I working extra hours to even try and stand still ?


  • #229
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,048 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    I'm sure we can all agree this INDEPENDENT report should now be implemented by the regulator. No moratorium on licences because the rate of issue has slowed. Economics are (as we all said) taking care of this issue through the theory of supply and demand.

    Case closed. Taxi drivers must work longer hours to make the same money in a recession. No surprise there.


  • #230
    keefg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭keefg


    Seeing as it's the hot topic of the moment.......any takers?

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=100133


  • #231
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,932 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    keefg wrote: »
    Seeing as it's the hot topic of the moment.......any takers?

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=100133

    Looks like a German taxi sign.


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  • #232
    keefg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭keefg


    Terrontress wrote: »
    Looks like a German taxi sign.

    Me thinks the seller may have just used a library pic instead of taking a pic of their 1994 Toyota :D


  • #233
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,932 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    keefg wrote: »
    Me thinks the seller may have just used a library pic instead of taking a pic of their 1994 Toyota :D

    Ha ha. Yeah, I thought it might be. Your assumption that it's a '94 Toyota made me laugh though.


  • #234
    Taxipete29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    kearnsr wrote: »
    Looks like its not needed



    The non armchair economist states that there is no need for a moratorium.

    I think its about time taxi men eat their hats

    I will wait until I hear a statement from Minister Dempsey before I apply the much needed sauce with which to eat my hat lol.

    I would like to read the report before I fully make up my mind about it, but here are my thoughts from what I have heard so far.

    Capping the licences is not off the table just yet, as the Oireachtas Commitee on Transport still feels there is a need, so as I said above I want to hear what the Minister( who ultimately has the final say) says about the report and how he will proceed.

    From a personal point of view though I think the chances of this happening are slim, so I think the focus should be turned towards getting the much needed reform underway. I believe this would of been easier had a cap been put in place, but you work with the hand your dealt.

    I listened to both the regulator and the economist from goodbodys this evening and one thing that struck me was the lack of acknowledgement of any sort of health and safety issues in regards to drivers working longer hours. The economist basically said it hasnt been an issue thus far, but to be honest Im not sure he would be the best person to be studying that element of the industry.

    Taxi drivers were never going to be happy with this report if it ruled against us and I am sure I would take issue with some of the findings and maybe how they reached them, but I am not going to whinge about how wrong it is and we know better because at the end of the day thats not going to get us anywhere. Its time to change tactics.

    Now is the time for the unions to step up to the plate and earn their fees and start fighting for the reform of the industry that is still badly needed.

    1, Far more stringent testing of new drivers
    2, Better vetting of drivers
    3, Removal of part-time drivers ( health and safety issue)
    4, More strict criteria for vehicles.
    5, Better enforcement of regulations from both the regulator and the Gardai
    6, A right of appeal for decisions made by the regulator

    I think that if these issues are tackled then the ultimate objective will still be reached, which is a better regulated industry for both the drivers and the public.

    As regards future protests which I know are inevitable after todays announcement, I am not giving up the fight for a better industry but I feel if the Minister says he will not cap the licences then that will be that and no amount of protesting will change his mind.

    I think it would be counter-productive for drivers to push an issue which would be effectively closed in the eyes of the Minister and drivers should push for reform through serious lobbying of both the regulator and Minister, by the unions and for ALL drivers to participate in making their views known to both sides.


  • #235
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,932 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Taxipete29 wrote: »
    I will wait until I hear a statement from Minister Dempsey before I apply the much needed sauce with which to eat my hat lol.

    I would like to read the report before I fully make up my mind about it, but here are my thoughts from what I have heard so far.

    Capping the licences is not off the table just yet, as the Oireachtas Commitee on Transport still feels there is a need, so as I said above I want to hear what the Minister( who ultimately has the final say) says about the report and how he will proceed.

    From a personal point of view though I think the chances of this happening are slim, so I think the focus should be turned towards getting the much needed reform underway. I believe this would of been easier had a cap been put in place, but you work with the hand your dealt.

    I listened to both the regulator and the economist from goodbodys this evening and one thing that struck me was the lack of acknowledgement of any sort of health and safety issues in regards to drivers working longer hours. The economist basically said it hasnt been an issue thus far, but to be honest Im not sure he would be the best person to be studying that element of the industry.

    Taxi drivers were never going to be happy with this report if it ruled against us and I am sure I would take issue with some of the findings and maybe how they reached them, but I am not going to whinge about how wrong it is and we know better because at the end of the day thats not going to get us anywhere. Its time to change tactics.

    Now is the time for the unions to step up to the plate and earn their fees and start fighting for the reform of the industry that is still badly needed.

    1, Far more stringent testing of new drivers
    2, Better vetting of drivers
    3, Removal of part-time drivers ( health and safety issue)
    4, More strict criteria for vehicles.
    5, Better enforcement of regulations from both the regulator and the Gardai
    6, A right of appeal for decisions made by the regulator

    I think that if these issues are tackled then the ultimate objective will still be reached, which is a better regulated industry for both the drivers and the public.

    As regards future protests which I know are inevitable after todays announcement, I am not giving up the fight for a better industry but I feel if the Minister says he will not cap the licences then that will be that and no amount of protesting will change his mind.

    I think it would be counter-productive for drivers to push an issue which would be effectively closed in the eyes of the Minister and drivers should push for reform through serious lobbying of both the regulator and Minister, by the unions and for ALL drivers to participate in making their views known to both sides.

    To be honest Pete, everyone on here has said repeatedly that the capping of licenses is not correct and reform through standards is the way forward. Your constant denigration of that has led to a good few heated exchanges.

    Now you are stating that you see a way to move forward without the capping.

    Is that going to be it for all taxi drivers?


  • #236
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,308 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Taxipete29 wrote: »
    1, Far more stringent testing of new drivers
    2, Better vetting of drivers
    3, Removal of part-time drivers ( health and safety issue)
    4, More strict criteria for vehicles.
    5, Better enforcement of regulations from both the regulator and the Gardai
    6, A right of appeal for decisions made by the regulator
    Agreed, except (1) should read "all drivers", and (5) should include fines for parking on a double yellow line.


  • #237
    Taxipete29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    Terrontress wrote: »
    To be honest Pete, everyone on here has said repeatedly that the capping of licenses is not correct and reform through standards is the way forward. Your constant denigration of that has led to a good few heated exchanges.

    Now you are stating that you see a way to move forward without the capping.

    Is that going to be it for all taxi drivers?

    I see a way to move forward without the capping because I think that capping is going to be fully off the table very soon. As I said above you work with the cards your dealt and it seems we are going to lose this praticular battle and it seems futile to me to continue to persue something your not going to win.

    If the Minister were to turn around in the morning and go against the report and cap anyway I would be delighted as this in what I am in favour of, but thats very unlikely so to show that we are serious about reform I think we need to get over it and try to tackle the other issues and hopefully reach the same goal just by different means.

    I dont think that other drivers are going to be as quick to change tactics as I am so tbh I expect a backlash of major protests in the coming weeks.

    Just for those drivers that maybe havent seen, the Chairman of Taxi drivers for change David Meade passed away today. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends at this sad time.


  • #238
    Taxipete29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    the_syco wrote: »
    Agreed, except (1) should read "all drivers", and (5) should include fines for parking on a double yellow line.

    I said it before I would be happy to submit myself to any new testing procedure that was introduced.

    I have also said before Taxi drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as other road users.If you have an issue with the way the law is enforced on Taxi drivers, contact your local councillor and ask him to address the issue with the gardai, as it is up to them to enforce the law, but I will say gardai are becoming alot more stringent with application of the law in this regard.


  • #239
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Taxipete29 wrote: »
    but I will say gardai are becoming alot more stringent with application of the law in this regard.

    Indeed they are. To only give Dublin examples:

    Connolly Station rank is constantly backed up Amiens St and it even blocks the pedestrian crossing so pedestrians have to swerve around taxis blocking everyone :mad:
    The gardai put down traffic cones, not that they needed to as they are double yellow lines. The drivers put the cones on the footpath.
    Now the gardai ticket the drivers not in the rank, score!

    Heuston rank Dublin is a pretty big rank but the drivers still go way back down that road outside the rank.
    Sometimes they park on the footpath (get off the footpath!) or they park in the buslane which doesn't slow motorbikes or taxi's but it slow the 79x, my bus! And many other buses, carrying 80 plus people.
    A push bike garda was there this morning and no problems at all, fair play garda. You weren't making new rules, only enforcing the ones already there

    I understand DCC hasn't provided enough ranks so by all means lobby them for more rank space. Until then don't park in the bus lane or footpath


  • #240
    Taxipete29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    mikemac wrote: »
    Indeed they are. To only give Dublin examples:

    Connolly Station rank is constantly backed up Amiens St and it even blocks the pedestrian crossing so pedestrians have to swerve around taxis blocking everyone :mad:
    The gardai put down traffic cones, not that they needed to as they are double yellow lines. The drivers put the cones on the footpath.
    Now the gardai ticket the drivers not in the rank, score!

    Heuston rank Dublin is a pretty big rank but the drivers still go way back down that road outside the rank.
    Sometimes they park on the footpath (get off the footpath!) or they park in the buslane which doesn't slow motorbikes or taxi's but it slow the 79x, my bus! And many other buses, carrying 80 plus people.
    A push bike garda was there this morning and no problems at all, fair play garda. You weren't making new rules, only enforcing the ones already there

    I understand DCC hasn't provided enough ranks so by all means lobby them for more rank space. Until then don't park in the bus lane or footpath

    I agree with you and I dont park in bus lanes or on the footpath, but I do have to disagree on one point which is to say that Heuston is a big rank, its tiny for the amount of people that flock through it every day, many of whom use taxis especially at peak times, but unfortunatly with limited space in that area Im not sure what could be done.


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    mikemac
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    True enough, with a few hundred people getting off a train at anyone time then maybe they could have made the rank bigger.
    But they could have done that 6 months ago when they were working on the road, too late now!
    And it does slow down buses to have taxis hanging off the back of the ranks.

    My sympathy guys but a bus with 60 to 80 people takes priority over a taxi driver in a car waiting for a fare.


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