Why The Church Can Go and Fup Off

Kintarō Hattori · 05-03-2009 06:11PM #1

A Brazilian archbishop says all those who helped a child rape victim secure an abortion are to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church tried to intervene to prevent the abortion going ahead but the procedure was carried out on Wednesday.

Now a Church spokesman says all those involved, including the child's mother and the doctors, are to be excommunicated.

However, doctors at the hospital said they had to take account of the welfare of the girl, and that she was so small that her uterus did not have the ability to contain one child let alone two.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7926694.stm

I'm not religous but crap like that would really put me off the idea of catholicism.

What about you lot boardsies, any other actions by the church annoy the bejaysus out of you?

petes · 05-03-2009 06:13PM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

What about you lot boardsies, any other actions by the church annoy the bejaysus out of you?

Mass.

javaboy · 05-03-2009 06:15PM

Meh it's their ball. They can do what they like with it. Excommunication I have no problem with.

It's the bit where they tried to intervene and stop the abortion that sickens me.

Dennis the Stone · 05-03-2009 06:15PM

We could be here all day. A bunch of hypocritical money-hungry bigots. More obsessed with people's private lives and protecting their own than genuine human suffering and poverty. They would rather see people die of aids than wear contraception.

jim o doom · 05-03-2009 06:16PM

raping children and denying it & just moving the offenders out to unknowing new fertile grounds where they could continue their filth.

jim o doom · 05-03-2009 06:16PM

well that & religion is a fraud.

VERYinterested · 05-03-2009 06:17PM

Tolerance of child abuse and the hushing up of it, and the outrage by altar rail lickers towards people that are brave enough to come forward.

badabinbadaboom · 05-03-2009 06:18PM

I suppose systematicaly abusing young children gets on my nerves a wee bit.

ham_n_mustard · 05-03-2009 06:19PM

the uniforms, although i did see this one subtitled film with some very sexy nuns.......

Biggins · 05-03-2009 06:22PM

Tago Mago wrote: »

We could be here all day. A bunch of hypocritical money-hungry bigots. More obsessed with people's private lives and protecting their own than genuine human suffering and poverty. They would rather see people die of aids than wear contraception.

Yep. The list of things wrong is too big, serious and huge for AH section.

Short story is: we refused to inflict the heavy anchor of the totally corrupt Rome organisation on our kids.

Genghiz Cohen · 05-03-2009 06:22PM

ham_n_mustard wrote: »

the uniforms, although i did see this one subtitled film with some very sexy nuns.......

Was it French and on after 11?

connundrum · 05-03-2009 06:25PM

Bit of a sausage fest tbh.

the_syco · 05-03-2009 06:27PM

And what's the bet that the rapist daddy is a priest from said church?

Dudess · 05-03-2009 06:31PM

The catholic church is anti abortion - no exception. Punishing members who knowingly contravene this... well technically there's nothing wrong with that seeing as the church is simply adhering to doctrine.

What pisses me off is people who continue to support the catholic church, moreso than the catholic church itself.

jim o doom · 05-03-2009 06:34PM

haha a funny one I hate; the fact that if you for some strange reason, want to get married; in a church.. you have to do a "wedding course"

So Church; you are telling me that a man sworn to celibacy - something completely against nature - who believes in some seriously strange things and spends most of his time with other celibates and young (alter) boys is the correct person to give me a course on how I spend my married life with a woman?

nooooooo no no no you've got it all wrong - you should be asking ME how to get on with life normally.

seamus · 05-03-2009 06:36PM

If you're excommunicated, it's like them putting up a "No Homers" sign and not letting you into their club, i.e. it's completely an utterly meaningless.

What annoys me is people who consider excommunication to be anything more serious than someone saying, "You can't be in our gang anymore".

thelordofcheese · 05-03-2009 06:37PM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7926694.stm

I'm not religous but crap like that would really put me off the idea of catholicism.

What about you lot boardsies, any other actions by the church annoy the bejaysus out of you?

While this is an extreme case, i can see their point. For many catholics, paticularly in the poorer parts of the world, abortion is murder, plain and simple. There is no moral grey area, it's all black and white.

The question for them is "why should an innocent unborn child be murdered for something it has no part of" and from that point of view i can see why they'd excommunicate the people involved.
If you break their rules you don't get to be in the club anymore.

While i personally think the abortion was the correct move, getting upset when a religion enforces it's own rules is a bit silly.

(also - in before some bonehead brings up Sharia and beheadings)

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-03-2009 06:37PM

The church, pfft! Opec are saints compared to these scum. Very wealthy organisation, with little regard for the needy. Saying this, a lot of individuals in the church are very very good people, getting little or no funding from the church itself but yet these people are able to run great charitable organisations.

The church sickens me... Religion sickens me... Religion will be the demise of civilisation on this planet. It will be the ruin of the world...

Kintarō Hattori · 05-03-2009 06:42PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

While this is an extreme case, i can see their point.

I can't. The doctors said that she wouldn't be physically able to have the child, let alone two. In that situation there is only ever one choice.

Anders Dirty Paint wrote: »

The church sickens me... Religion sickens me... Religion will be the demise of civilisation on this planet. It will be the ruin of the world...

I really feel you're right. It causes so much suffering.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-03-2009 06:53PM

Well who told the church exactly? Did the brazillian bishop seek help from the church? It happens all the time in Ireland and England with no excommunications from the church, is it only certain cases that this happens?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-03-2009 06:57PM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

I really feel you're right. It causes so much suffering.

Theoretically, the fundamental principles of religion is great, treating human kind with respect and what not, but in practice it only works for said religion. In order for it to truly work there would have to be one religion, which simply will never happen. Religion has fueled massive wars for as long as it is around, it makes it "ok" to destroy another life. Utter hypocricy...

ham_n_mustard · 05-03-2009 07:00PM

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Was it French and on after 11?

you've obviously seen it too.

i went to school in a convent school in limerick. the nuns were regular little robert mugabes. enough to make anybody doubt the catholic faith, listen to slayer, etc etc

thelordofcheese · 05-03-2009 07:05PM

Anders Dirty Paint wrote: »

Theoretically, the fundamental principles of religion is great, treating human kind with respect and what not, but in practice it only works for said religion. In order for it to truly work there would have to be one religion, which simply will never happen. Religion has fueled massive wars for as long as it is around, it makes it "ok" to destroy another life. Utter hypocricy...

You realise the problem isn't religion, right?

It's people. or more specifically people using religion as an means to further their own ambitions. And when it isn't religion it's something else, like national security or other differing political ideologies.

Blaming 'religion' for the worlds woes is like blaming a gun for shooting someone.

Galvasean · 05-03-2009 07:10PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

You realise the problem isn't religion, right?

It's people. or more specifically people using religion as an means to further their own ambitions. And when it isn't religion it's something else, like national security or other differing political ideologies.

Blaming 'religion' for the worlds woes is like blaming a gun for shooting someone.

Religion Guns should be banned because people can't be trusted with them.

Adiboo · 05-03-2009 07:14PM

Watch Religulous. Great/funny documentary.

thelordofcheese · 05-03-2009 07:17PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Religion Guns should be banned because people can't be trusted with them.

I knew i shouldn't have used the gun comparison.........

Fine, how about:
Blaming 'religion' for the worlds woes is like blaming an inanimate object for the actions of a person.

Is it unambiguous enough now?

AngryBadger · 05-03-2009 07:22PM

I wonder how much of the current budget deficit we could make up if we stripped the church of all their lands.....

Biggins · 05-03-2009 07:30PM

Anders Dirty Paint wrote: »

Theoretically, the fundamental principles of religion is great, treating human kind with respect and what not, but in practice it only works for said religion. In order for it to truly work there would have to be one religion, which simply will never happen. Religion has fueled massive wars for as long as it is around, it makes it "ok" to destroy another life. Utter hypocricy...

100% correct.

This is why I hold the organisation responsible as a whole.

javaboy · 05-03-2009 07:35PM

AngryBadger wrote: »

I wonder how much of the current budget deficit we could make up if we stripped the church of all their lands.....

Confiscating church assets to make up for a shortfall in the country's finances..... now where have I heard that before?

Overheal · 05-03-2009 07:37PM

Can we try the Pope for Crimes Against Humanity?

Biggins · 05-03-2009 07:39PM

javaboy wrote: »

Confiscating church assets to make up for a shortfall in the country's finances..... now where have I heard that before?

From all the items they, the crooks in Rome originally robbed from the Templar organisation and branches perhaps across Europe!

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