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Are motherly women responsible for lazy men?

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  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sorry, but adult men are just that: Adult.

    Stop blaming the mothers (Freud has so much to answer to) and blame the adults for their own behaviour.

    Take some responsibility for yourselves.

    You just haven't met a proper power hungary Irish mamie woman yet. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭SeekUp


    Perhaps motherly women add to the problem, but are they responsible for lazy men? Pffft.

    This reminds me of this guy who was on TV the other night . . . he had written a book and was discussing infidelity in marriages. Apparently, the men who go off and find lovin' elsewhere only do so because their women don't show them any appreciation, therefore they are "vulnerable" to the urge to cheat. So it's not really so much the fact that he made the decision to cheat, it's the woman who facilitated the action. Pffft.

    Give me a break . . . men can decide what they want to do. Watch TV or get up and take out the trash. Watch TV or get up and make me dinner. Watch TV or get on top. It's all about the choice. And if they're lazy, it's because they want to be.

    (Same with women, to be fair!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    SeekUp wrote: »
    Perhaps motherly women add to the problem, but are they responsible for lazy men? Pffft.

    This reminds me of this guy who was on TV the other night . . . he had written a book and was discussing infidelity in marriages. Apparently, the men who go off and find lovin' elsewhere only do so because their women don't show them any appreciation, therefore they are "vulnerable" to the urge to cheat. So it's not really so much the fact that he made the decision to cheat, it's the woman who facilitated the action. Pffft.

    Give me a break . . . men can decide what they want to do. Watch TV or get up and take out the trash. Watch TV or get up and make me dinner. Watch TV or get on top. It's all about the choice. And if they're lazy, it's because they want to be.

    (Same with women, to be fair!)

    YEP, It's the usual blame everybody else mentality.

    My problem is more with the women who moan about Irish lads being mothered, who then go onto mother The same Irish men in marriages or partnerships.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Anyhoo,
    Whaaa? Oh...wasnt me..carry on:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Men who assume women should do all at home would clearly be helpless without a mother / gf /wife.

    I wouldnt know. I take little part. He does it. I watch him while I sip a martini, and wonder., wtf is going on there.

    I expect its probably to do with the fact that Ive no idea where the hoover or focking iron is. Awful arent I? No.

    I grew up watching my mother iron face-cloths and focking socks..

    Ask. My. Wavin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Abigayle wrote: »

    I grew up watching my mother iron face-cloths and focking socks..

    That's OCD.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I can only look at so much mess and then it has to be tidied / put away / washed / trashed . But it's 50/50 chore time in our house ......equal rights and all that .:p


  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This looking after them idea has it is upsides though.
    Wise people don't bite the hand that feed them. ~evil~


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    This looking after them idea has it is upsides though.
    Wise people don't bite the hand that feed them. ~evil~
    Tis nice to look after people and appriciate them and it's also nice to be appriciated .As long as it's not one way traffic all the time :)

    nite nite .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    K-9 wrote: »
    That's OCD.

    I knew that. Now its happening at my home... he washes and irons, hoovers and mops etc. Borrrring. Wtf?

    Omg. Ive gone for the male equivilent of my mother.*sigh*. Bollöx.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭SeekUp


    Abigayle wrote: »
    I knew that. Now its happening at my home... he washes and irons, hoovers and mops etc. Borrrring. Wtf?

    Omg. Ive gone for the male equivilent of my mother.*sigh*. Bollöx.

    Meh, just sit back, relax and enjoy your martini (or two)! And make sure to point out any spots that he misses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    SeekUp wrote: »
    Meh, just sit back, relax and enjoy your martini (or two)! And make sure to point out any spots that he misses.
    Advice taken :)

    *sip*

    Lil more to the left... bit more.. Thats it! Keep going over that spot...

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭SeekUp


    Hmmmm. I like your technique. Perhaps I shall try it over the weekend.

    *sip*

    I have to prepare myself, of course.

    *sip*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭NickNolte


    SeekUp wrote: »
    Perhaps motherly women add to the problem, but are they responsible for lazy men? Pffft.

    This reminds me of this guy who was on TV the other night . . . he had written a book and was discussing infidelity in marriages. Apparently, the men who go off and find lovin' elsewhere only do so because their women don't show them any appreciation, therefore they are "vulnerable" to the urge to cheat. So it's not really so much the fact that he made the decision to cheat, it's the woman who facilitated the action. Pffft.

    Give me a break . . . men can decide what they want to do. Watch TV or get up and take out the trash. Watch TV or get up and make me dinner. Watch TV or get on top. It's all about the choice. And if they're lazy, it's because they want to be.

    (Same with women, to be fair!)

    In fairness, people tend to be a product of their environment and boys who are mothered to the point of total dependency up to the time they leave home are going grow up to me lazy men who need to be looked after. I'm not saying that excuses them but that's the way things are.

    It's the same way that daddys who spoil their daughters (the last 15 or so years more than ever) watch them turn into the most intolerable of bitchy little princesses with a completely unjustified sense of entitlement.

    A lot of Irish parents haven't a clue how to raise their children to be well balanced, nice people who can think for themselves unforunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Puddleduck


    Ha! Lazy men are lazy because they are allowed to be. When/if I move in with the other half theyre will be none of this mothering crap. Ive no problem cooking or cleaning but for him to expect it of me would be down right stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Declan30


    When i meet up with my girlfriend she was surprised i did so much around the House.
    I Told her when i was growing up we had to do it.
    Then she went on to tell me her last boyfriend was lazy cos he was a mammies boy eveything was done for him:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    It's not that we're lazy. We just don't want to do housework and don't see the need for it.

    Neither are we incapable of tidyness. You should see my DVD collection. It's a masterpiece of organisation and tidyness. Or the the cabling for all the various gadgets littered my house. It's like a sistine chapel of copper wire. Flowing neatly from a to b and sometimes c on weekends.

    On the other hand If I have a sock on the floor I don't care and don't see the point of picking it up until wash day. Similarly a cup or a bowl in the sink doesn't bother me either - either from an aesthic or even a hygenic point of view. I'll leave them there to pile up and then I'll stick them in the dishwasher I bought and press the little start button when there is enough to fill the thing.

    Good luck finding a woman who'll organise your CD collection by genre and the sub-organise that from a to z or organise your toolboxes by task and item size. This is because stuff like this is an almost exclusively male neurosis. Likewise womens neurosis is keeping the house clean. It doesn't have to be done to the exent the average woman feels it must be, women just *want* it done that well.

    We could each do the others task but the truth is we deep down we don't want and don't see any benefit in even trying. So best solution is that we should just accept now that we shouldn't.

    Women, a man will never ask you do sort out his toolshed, don't ask him to clean up your house. To answer your question tho "no mothers have nothing to do with it", "thousands of years of evolution have all to do with it".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I think also a lot of it has to do with the amount of stuff we collect compared to previous generations, who didn't have all this hi tec stuff today,with cables,wires etc ,everywere .Also , to much hygiene and cleanliness is as bad as to little. Constant advertisement tells us that our house's can be germ free if we use this and that product...pfff


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