Windows 7

Capt'n Midnight · 09-02-2009 10:14PM

FrankGrimes wrote: »

So, I jumped the gun a bit and installed Win 7 Beta 32-bit as an upgrade on my HTPC - worst case I can rollback to Vista, right?

probably not

most OS's don't rollback to the previous version smoothly , if you have upgraded the file system or deleted uninstall info then as a general rule you can't go back

in general a clean install is prefered to an upgrade and not just for windows

nt4 back to nt3.51 maybe if no new apps installed , anthing else I would not trust

can't remember the specifics but XP / Vista trashed each others system restore

watty · 10-02-2009 12:33PM

You can't even roll back most SPs reliably.

NT4 rollback to NT3.51 doesn't work.

System restore is a nice idea. I turn it off as it slows the system and rarely works. If boot last known good configuration doesn't work, system restore may not work.

Beta and RCs are meant to be always on "throw-away" test systems. Never ever as replacement or upgrade to a commercial version. You'd only do an inplace install of Beta/RC if you installed a dummy/test version of old OS to see how well the "in place" upgrade works, prior to a rollout.

I've never seen "in place" upgrades be a good idea as often the PC has so many issues needing sorted anyway unless used by a trained user.

nuttz · 12-02-2009 12:27PM

Some good news hopefully!

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/11/238222&from=rss

JohnK · 12-02-2009 12:48PM

Thats the usual Microsoft thing to allow new machines sold after a specific date to get the free upgrade - note the wording: "...during the program eligibility window". If I remember correctly they did the same with Vista when that was announced because they dont want people holding off buying a new PC while they wait for the latest OS.

watty · 12-02-2009 04:38PM

It's like Vista sold after July 2009 or 2019 or something.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5152176/the-right-way-to-install-windows

As I've said before, the ONLY way ever, with ANY OS is a clean install.

Cy_Revenant · 12-02-2009 08:40PM

watty wrote: »

It's like Vista sold after July 2009 or 2019 or something.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5152176/the-right-way-to-install-windows

As I've said before, the ONLY way ever, with ANY OS is a clean install.

QFT

AlmightyCushion · 12-02-2009 11:41PM

Did anyone have any problems installing the x64 bit version. Mine would copy the files fine but when it was extracting the files it would crap out after about 30% and gave some error. I can't remember the message but it said something about "missing files and restart the setup with the files included". The 32bit install went fine though.

12-02-2009 11:44PM

Could be a corrupt download. Happened to me with the Windows Server 2008 trial.

_Kaiser_ · 14-02-2009 12:55AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Did anyone have any problems installing the x64 bit version. Mine would copy the files fine but when it was extracting the files it would crap out after about 30% and gave some error. I can't remember the message but it said something about "missing files and restart the setup with the files included". The 32bit install went fine though.

Yea I had this problem. Assumed the CD I'd burned it to was bad so just installed the 32-Bit version. I downloaded via Technet Plus if that helps.

JordanDC · 17-02-2009 01:41PM

I have a laptop that I would like to try Windows 7 on. It currently has XP Home, what should I do when the Beta ends in August?? Thats what is stopping me from installing it.

Ponster · 17-02-2009 01:47PM

I guess in August you just stop using Windows 7?

Installing it as your main OP isn't advised at the moment.

JordanDC · 17-02-2009 01:50PM

The beta ends in august doesnt it? Could I partition the hard drive and install it?

watty · 17-02-2009 05:51PM

The period for getting a download is over.

Ponster · 17-02-2009 07:27PM

JordanDC wrote: »

The beta ends in august doesnt it? Could I partition the hard drive and install it?

Yeah !

JordanDC · 17-02-2009 07:31PM

watty wrote: »

The period for getting a download is over.

I already have the copy. Im going to do it tonight.

erie · 19-02-2009 01:01AM

Here is my Windows Experience Score under Windows Vista compare to Windows 7 in the same machine (Sony Vaio VGNSZ4MN/B)

Windows Vista (partition 66GB out of 100GB)

In Windows 7 (partition 17.5GB out of 100GB)

erie · 19-02-2009 01:04AM

seem Windows Vista better score than Windows 7... but in actuall experience,honestly I like Windows 7 more all term... it's fast, easy to use, beautiful, great interface...

19-02-2009 01:17AM

erie wrote: »

Here is my Windows Experience Score under Windows Vista compare to Windows 7 in the same machine (Sony Vaio VGNSZ4MN/B)

Windows Vista (partition 66GB out of 100GB)

In Windows 7 (partition 17.5GB out of 100GB)

Seems your hard disk is lowering the overall score. Could be a driver issue related to the disk controller. Or maybe the disk is running in a lower ATA mode or even PIO.

JohnK · 19-02-2009 12:03PM

I never ran vista on my current win7 machine but its the harddrive is dragging my score down to 2. If not for that the next lowest score is 4 so a HD upgrade should give me a good score boost if I decided to go for it.

19-02-2009 12:22PM

JohnK wrote: »

I never ran vista on my current win7 machine but its the harddrive is dragging my score down to 2. If not for that the next lowest score is 4 so a HD upgrade should give me a good score boost if I decided to go for it.

Personally I think it's very unlikely that your hard disk is at fault. What type of disk is it? I'd be thinking it's more of a SATA controller driver issue.

SCD · 19-02-2009 01:10PM

I have it but haven't installed it yet. There's no XP -> 7 upgrade option as of yet. It's suppose to run like XP but look like Vista. I say Ubuntu all the way :P

JohnK · 19-02-2009 01:12PM

SCD wrote: »

I say Ubuntu all the way :P

Damn I must have done it the wrong way, I wiped my Ubuntu machine to put on Windows 7 :P

SCD · 19-02-2009 01:15PM

JohnK wrote: »

Damn I must have done it the wrong way, I wiped my Ubuntu machine to put on Windows 7 :P

But why?! What did Ubuntu ever do to you?:(. Well I suppose it depends on what distro you had. If anything from Hardy up then that is unforgivable :P

JohnK · 19-02-2009 03:26PM

Karsini wrote: »

Personally I think it's very unlikely that your hard disk is at fault. What type of disk is it? I'd be thinking it's more of a SATA controller driver issue.

You could be right - its a 160gb sata. Has there been reports of dodgy drivers?

SCD wrote: »

But why?! What did Ubuntu ever do to you?:(. Well I suppose it depends on what distro you had. If anything from Hardy up then that is unforgivable :P

I think it was Hardy actually

. I just couldnt help myself, windows 7 looked so pretty

Dartz · 19-02-2009 03:26PM

Windows 7 seems to score on a slightly different scale to Vista. For thing, the range of scores goes higher. My laptop got a 5.3 for Graphics under Vista, but only a 5.0 under Windows7. Oddly enough, gaming graphics has actually iomproved between the two editions..

20-02-2009 12:49AM

I haven't heard any definite reports of dodgy drivers but the index scores should be similar to Vista if not the same.

Blazer · 20-02-2009 11:45AM

Looks like they built in a bit of leeway into the benchmarks.
My card below scores a 6.9 on it..you'd need a newer generation card I'd say or SLI/X-Fire to get to the 6.9.
At present my slowest part is the ram..only 5.9..
Even my CPU only gets to 7.2 or something so I wouldn't mind having a system that scores 7.9 on all areas

watty · 20-02-2009 12:02PM

If you like eye-candy (and realise than in fact Vista and Windows 7 offer no extra features except DX10 or under the hood advantages, goes slower, less securely and less compatible why not try these tools for 32bit Windows XP?

Unregistered. · 20-02-2009 06:41PM

watty wrote: »

If you like eye-candy (and realise than in fact Vista and Windows 7 offer no extra features except DX10 or under the hood advantages, goes slower, less securely and less compatible why not try these tools for 32bit Windows XP?

Source?

Capt'n Midnight · 20-02-2009 09:35PM

SCD wrote: »

I have it but haven't installed it yet. There's no XP -> 7 upgrade option as of yet. It's suppose to run like XP but look like Vista. I say Ubuntu all the way :P

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