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What do you make of Jesus Christ?

  • 06-02-2009 8:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    Having read Polestar's thread, I started thinking about Jesus Christ. I don't believe he was the son of god. I don't believe any of the mad **** (the impossible stuff anyway) he was supposed to have done. I believe he existed. I don't even dispute the chain of events from the bible (the stuff that was actually possible anyway). The only thing I'm certain of is that there is no connection between Jesus and any "God".

    But did Jesus believe it himself? I suppose we'll never know where he got his notions from. What do you think?


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  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I just think that Jesus was a damn good politician.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I don't believe any of the supernatural stuff. I do however believe he was probably some sort of healer/medicine man and also a very charismatic leader.


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 EskimoErased


    Plus he could make a damn fine table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    I'm sure he was pretty cool, and knew how to do a couple of catchy magic tricks here and there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    One (compound) word: Superstar. Though Joseph and his technicolour dreamcoat had the better tunes, Jesus had the it factor.

    I think he was a charismatic leader who was only one of several "messiahs" floating around at the time-the only difference being that he had one of best PR machines ever.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    I am doubtful about whether he even existed at all. The bible is such a mishmash of stories written after the fact that for all we know they could be a collection of fables about all the wannabee messiahs that were around back then.

    But in reality I don't think it even matters if there was such a person as Jesus. As is the case with Laozi even if Jesus were a collection of figures, the fact that the teachings collected in the Bible makes him just as significant a figure real or otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    Having read Polestar's thread, I started thinking about Jesus Christ. I don't believe he was the son of god. I don't believe any of the mad **** (the impossible stuff anyway) he was supposed to have done. I believe he existed. I don't even dispute the chain of events from the bible (the stuff that was actually possible anyway). The only thing I'm certain of is that there is no connection between Jesus and any "God".

    But did Jesus believe it himself? I suppose we'll never know where he got his notions from. What do you think?

    I'd recommend reading C.S. Lewis': 'Mere Christianity', for a deeper exploration of your belief on who and what Jesus is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭phelixoflaherty




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    Don't forget that he was a freak of nature ie. a white caucasian with flowing hazel hair born in the middle east. Wierd eh?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    I suppose we'll never know where he got his notions from. What do you think?
    It's come up quite a few times in the past, but many christian notions come from contemporary Greek philosophy, mixed in with a few Egyptian bits and all of it resting upon a firm foundation in Jewish religious teachings. There are few original ideas anywhere, and of the little original stuff there is, most of it was developed not by Jesus, but by Paul who only "met" Jesus in a dream.

    All the evidence suggests that there probably was an itinerant preacher named Jesus or something similar to that, but he was firmly jewish and viewed himself as such. Again, it was Paul who did most of the political work necessary to split Jesus' followers away from mainstream judaism and to create the separate and wildly varying pantheon of religions that go by the collective name of "christianity".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Overblood wrote: »
    Don't forget that he was a freak of nature ie. a white caucasian with flowing hazel hair born in the middle east. Wierd eh?

    There's plenty of them in Israel.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    But did Jesus believe it himself? I suppose we'll never know where he got his notions from. What do you think?

    It is hard not to look at cult leaders today and imagine that Jesus was a lot like them. Maybe he truly believed what he was teaching, maybe he just wanted his followers to look after him (Jesus was supported by his wealthy female followers)

    But we will probably never know. One should always remember though that it was his followers who wrote the history on Jesus. How seriously would any of us take a "David Koresh - What really happened" book written by the Branch Davidians?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    There's plenty of them in Israel.;)

    Yeah what´s the story with that? Aren´t some Israelites decended from folks that saught refuge after WW2?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭useful_contacts


    Having read Polestar's thread, I started thinking about Jesus Christ. I don't believe he was the son of god. I don't believe any of the mad **** (the impossible stuff anyway) he was supposed to have done. I believe he existed. I don't even dispute the chain of events from the bible (the stuff that was actually possible anyway). The only thing I'm certain of is that there is no connection between Jesus and any "God".

    But did Jesus believe it himself? I suppose we'll never know where he got his notions from. What do you think?


    Ive never been here before- been on boards a long time but never on this part of it

    How do you explain RISING FROM THE DEAD?????

    Look my partners an atheist and ive to listen to his "jesus didnt exist" crap all the time

    Look if you dont believe in it FAIR ENOUGH but stop trying to bully others into it ok- you athiests and your "god doesnt exist" stuff pisses me off

    Its your decision to believe- but let the rest of us decide our own path!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 category


    Look if you dont believe in it FAIR ENOUGH but stop trying to bully others into it ok- you athiests and your "god doesnt exist" stuff pisses me off
    Er. It'd be fine to be all up in people's grills if this was over on the Christianity forum, but this is the Atheism & Agnosticism forum. Posting about the big JC here is hardly bullying others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭useful_contacts


    category wrote: »
    Er. It'd be fine to be all up in people's grills if this was over on the Christianity forum, but this is the Atheism & Agnosticism forum. Posting about the big JC here is hardly bullying others.

    oh... ha sorry love im on the wrong forum ha ha

    sorry i saw the "What do you make of Jesus Christ? " thread and had to add my bit- i didnt even LOOK at the forum

    sorry all- my bad:D:D:D:D

    * waits for throwing of tomatos *


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Ive never been here before- been on boards a long time but never on this part of it

    How do you explain RISING FROM THE DEAD?????

    Lies, good PR, fantasy, misdiagnosis etc-take your pick.

    Look my partners an atheist and ive to listen to his "jesus didnt exist" crap all the time

    Take it out on him, not on us.:pac:

    Look if you dont believe in it FAIR ENOUGH but stop trying to bully others into it ok- you athiests and your "god doesnt exist" stuff pisses me off

    Its your decision to believe- but let the rest of us decide our own path!!!

    Well, this is the atheism board? It's not like we're posting this in Afterhours, is it? Hmmmm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    oh... ha sorry love im on the wrong forum ha ha

    sorry i saw the "What do you make of Jesus Christ? " thread and had to add my bit- i didnt even LOOK at the forum

    sorry all- my bad:D:D:D:D

    OK no harm done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭useful_contacts


    Lies, good PR, fantasy, misdiagnosis etc-take your pick.

    Take it out on him, not on us.:pac:

    Well, this is the atheism board? It's not like we're posting this in Afterhours, is it? Hmmmm?

    i love the fact you didnt bother reading the post i wrote after this :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood



    How do you explain RISING FROM THE DEAD?????

    You don´t, it´s not possible.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    Overblood wrote: »
    Don't forget that he was a freak of nature ie. a white caucasian with flowing hazel hair born in the middle east. Wierd eh?

    I forgot to mention blue eyes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    Overblood wrote: »
    Don't forget that he was a freak of nature ie. a white caucasian with flowing hazel hair born in the middle east. Wierd eh?
    That's because icons of Jesus are based on those of Zeus; except younger because the Bible says he was 33.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭Rev Hellfire


    Ive never been here before- been on boards a long time but never on this part of it

    How do you explain RISING FROM THE DEAD?????
    I suspect the answer to that is fairly easy, it didn't happen :D
    Look my partners an atheist and ive to listen to his "jesus didnt exist" crap all the time

    Look if you dont believe in it FAIR ENOUGH but stop trying to bully others into it ok- you athiests and your "god doesnt exist" stuff pisses me off

    Its your decision to believe- but let the rest of us decide our own path!!!
    But we're doing you a service, faith is worthless unless its challenged.

    You see its a little known fact, I really shouldn't be telling you this but its just between you and me ok.
    Wicknight is part of a clandestine god-squad, using the devils own weapons of science and reason he tests the faithful. Those whose faith he manages to buckle are reported for further mandatory Sunday school lessons !
    Resulting in more souls saved, glory !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    I make a nice salad, or sometimes if Im ambitious, a spicy JC curry. Thats what I make of Jesus Christ.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    I just think that Jesus was a damn good politician.

    That, and his name is great for using as swear words.
    Jaysus.
    Chirst.
    Jesus Christ.
    Jesus fuking Christ.
    Christ on a bicycle.
    The list is endless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DinoBot


    Well I don't believe in the bible so why believe the bits that speak about Jesus ?

    I don't think the bible was in any way from a god, so I would even doubt if Jesus the man was ever real to begin with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    How do you explain RISING FROM THE DEAD?????

    You don't because it didn't and does not happen. Medical Science is a lot more established & knowledgeable about the human body than religion can ever claim to be, and this is just not physically possible. As a poster said, it might have been a misdiagnosis of death, or just stress induced hallucinations, but rising from the dead? Not possible.
    Look my partners an atheist and ive to listen to his "jesus didnt exist" crap all the time

    Why is it crap? Could it be that you are just scared that all those years of brainwashing in church might have been a load of lies? That maybe there is more truth in what non believers say than what can be recited but not proved from the bible?
    Look if you dont believe in it FAIR ENOUGH but stop trying to bully others into it ok- you athiests and your "god doesnt exist" stuff pisses me off

    Its your decision to believe- but let the rest of us decide our own path!!!


    God doesn't exist. I'm sorry to break the little fantasy you have in your head of some guy in the sky being ruler of the world, but it isn't like that. This is reality. As for trying to bully others into atheism, thats a bit hard considering you have to make up your own mind first. But sure hasn't Christiantity been bullying people into its religions for years and years? Again, I think there is a fear in you that you don't want to admit you could be wrong.

    I have sympathy for people blinded by religions. They are stuck in an alternate fantasy where some entity is guiding their life and when they die, they're going to this big kingdom in the clouds. In reality, you make your own choices in life and when you die its just a cold dark box in the ground you'll be sitting in - not some tea party in the sky. Its not a pretty picture, but its better than fooling yourself with such nonsense.

    And yes I did see your response after the original post, but felt compelled to comment on the above as its one of the best examples of christian ignorance I've seen in a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


    DarkJager wrote: »
    You don't because it didn't and does not happen. Medical Science is a lot more established & knowledgeable about the human body than religion can ever claim to be, and this is just not physically possible.

    Hey, this this is Jesus we're tlking about; if he wanted to die and rasie himslef as a pineapple shaped version of his former self then I'm sure he could have organsied that, himself and his da were massively non-confirmist when it came it science...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    stevejazzx wrote: »
    Hey, this this is Jesus we're tlking about; if he wanted to die and rasie himslef as a pineapple shaped version of his former self then I'm sure he could have organsied that, himself and his da were massively non-confirmist when it came it science...

    Yeah but you'd have to ignore everything that would happen the body like there being no supply of oxygen to the brain, no blood being pumped from the heart and of course decay of the flesh etc. If there's a reasonable scientifically valid explanation on how you come back to life after passing those stages I would really be interested in hearing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    A bit of a hippie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    For Jack Palance, it's a doddle to be an athiest, absoloutly nothing is required, their mere existence pleases them and they will be forever grateful or in their case for the duration of their lives and to whom they will never know. Most of the athiests in here if you look up their profiles are angry young men with no prospects after school because of the econonmy and quite frankly had they God their outlooks would be different most definitely.

    And for the record a french painter depicted Jesus as white with long hazel hair and blue eyes. He was nothing of the sort. He was olive-skinned and his hair was kept trimmed but you need to read the bible to know that.

    He was most definitely the Son of God and to deny this means eternal death-the bible states this also and just in case you're tempted to say the bible was written by a bunch of men it is the Word of God placed in the mouths and minds of men through His Holy Spirit.

    It is very foolish to rush to a conclusion God doesn't exist. You could start by asking Him to reveal Himself in your life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    sukikettle wrote: »
    For Jack Palance, it's a doddle to be an athiest, absoloutly nothing is required, their mere existence pleases them and they will be forever grateful or in their case for the duration of their lives and to whom they will never know. Most of the athiests in here if you look up their profiles are angry young men with no prospects after school because of the econonmy and quite frankly had they God their outlooks would be different most definitely.

    And most christians who come in here are smug & arrogant fantasists. See what I did there, I generalised. That's a great christian trait. As for comparing faith in a spook to success in life, thats an epic failure right there. It would be laughable if it wasn't such an idiotic connection to make.
    He was most definitely the Son of God and to deny this means eternal death-the bible states this also and just in case you're tempted to say the bible was written by a bunch of men it is the Word of God placed in the mouths and minds of men through His Holy Spirit.

    NEWSFLASH: Death is eternal, in case you haven't noticed or have been too busy reading your bible. As for the word of god, maybe in your faith or religion it is the word of god - to atheists and non believers its the same as reading the brothers grimm. A fairytale.
    It is very foolish to rush to a conclusion God doesn't exist. You could start by asking Him to reveal Himself in your life.

    Of course it would be foolish to take sides without making up your own mind first. I'm sure broad minded people have given some thought and research to your religion, but felt it was not for them or was simply too far fetched to believe in. Thats why I can't understand why christians get so upset by atheists. We don't believe in any of that nonsense, but you somehow feel we should all be forced into it and failure to believe in it means "eternal death"? No it doesn't. It just means we get more joy from life than worrying about some spook in the sky or whats going to happen us when we die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    Well Dark you can say all that but you have no control after you die my friend and curious how dark makes up the first half of your name when God means light...He's not a spook in the sky at all and how can you possibly have such contempt for something you have no belief in. How do you explain the annoyance that curdles in that little tummy of yours when you read posts like mine. If we were only talking about spooks....you wouldn't even bother.
    You should examine why things dark hold a fascination with people especially kids and ask yourself who is actually behind it. You can't have failed to miss the up surge of skulls and crossbones and dragons and all the books, movies and cartoons for kids are all dark, magical, occultist. That isn't a coincidence. There is a force rising to destroy and it's in all the music too. That force is satan...so on who's behalf are you speaking. Do you truly know what is going on are you so blind.
    How many of you don't blink at what your kids wear, read and what they are listening to.
    There seems to be a problem with believing the supernatural but you can't deny the presence of darkness, the breakdown of an economy owing to greed, escalating conflicts, erratic weather (please spare me the greenhouse chatter) and what's happened to the family. It's breaking down. Why do we take all this squarely on the chin. I bet you drank with someone with satan or a skull on his t-shirt but that's ok..you've never questioned it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    sukikettle wrote: »
    For Jack Palance, it's a doddle to be an athiest, absoloutly nothing is required, their mere existence pleases them and they will be forever grateful or in their case for the duration of their lives and to whom they will never know. Most of the athiests in here if you look up their profiles are angry young men with no prospects after school because of the econonmy and quite frankly had they God their outlooks would be different most definitely.

    And for the record a french painter depicted Jesus as white with long hazel hair and blue eyes. He was nothing of the sort. He was olive-skinned and his hair was kept trimmed but you need to read the bible to know that.

    He was most definitely the Son of God and to deny this means eternal death-the bible states this also and just in case you're tempted to say the bible was written by a bunch of men it is the Word of God placed in the mouths and minds of men through His Holy Spirit.

    It is very foolish to rush to a conclusion God doesn't exist. You could start by asking Him to reveal Himself in your life.

    Excuse me? Sorry for believing in logic and the laws of the universe. I don't believe Jesus was the son of god. I think it's foolish of you to rush to the conclusion that god does exist. I'll believe it if I see it. You're just gullible to take it all at face value. Humans have always been jumping to conclusions to explain the world and natural disasters and the like. The ancient Greeks assumed lightning came from Zeus throwing down bolts of lightning. Modern science has explained it very well. Creating a god to explain what you don't understand is primitive and pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Yeah but you'd have to ignore everything that would happen the body like there being no supply of oxygen to the brain, no blood being pumped from the heart and of course decay of the flesh etc. If there's a reasonable scientifically valid explanation on how you come back to life after passing those stages I would really be interested in hearing it.

    you really don't get do you..pineapple I said..pineapple. he be could pineapple man if he wanted..he exists outsdie of it all. for him it wasn't like 'well this is gonna be hard, rasing myself from the dead in all..he just did it, like Nike (not the popular sporting brandname, the greek goddess...)


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Luis Delightful Syntax


    sukikettle wrote: »
    Well Dark you can say all that but you have no control after you die my friend and curious how dark makes up the first half of your name when God means light...He's not a spook in the sky at all and how can you possibly have such contempt for something you have no belief in. How do you explain the annoyance that curdles in that little tummy of yours when you read posts like mine.
    The same way my tummy curdles in annoyance when I see blatant homophobic posts. It doesn't mean I'm secretly a homophobe and know they're all correct :rolleyes:
    If we were only talking about spooks....you wouldn't even bother.
    You should examine why things dark hold a fascination with people especially kids and ask yourself who is actually behind it. You can't have failed to miss the up surge of skulls and crossbones and dragons and all the books, movies and cartoons for kids are all dark, magical, occultist. That isn't a coincidence. There is a force rising to destroy and it's in all the music too. That force is satan...so on who's behalf are you speaking. Do you truly know what is going on are you so blind.
    How many of you don't blink at what your kids wear, read and what they are listening to.
    There seems to be a problem with believing the supernatural but you can't deny the presence of darkness, the breakdown of an economy owing to greed, escalating conflicts, erratic weather (please spare me the greenhouse chatter) and what's happened to the family. It's breaking down. Why do we take all this squarely on the chin. I bet you drank with someone with satan or a skull on his t-shirt but that's ok..you've never questioned it

    Uh yeah, you might be better off in the conspiracy theories forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    sukikettle wrote: »
    how can you possibly have such contempt for something you have no belief in.
    Quite easily. You are contemptuous of atheism and you're suprised some atheists are contemptuous of your beliefs?
    I have no respect for your beliefs or those of any skyfairy worshipper/scientologist/fairyologist/etc. therefore contempt is quite simple

    /troll feeding


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    So I conclude with such an obvious heavy presence of satan and the mass collusion that's going on. With such a world wide fascination with the supernatural and darkness that no one on this whole site can deny why can't there a God. There is evidence of Him too. And why the escalating fascination with the supernatural regardless of your beliefs if there is truly nothing beyond this life. The general rule is God created satan and he went bad and was chucked down here along with all of us who sinned. So how many of us want to rise out of the miry pit you share with him. I'll tell you...very few of you.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Luis Delightful Syntax


    sukikettle wrote: »
    With such a world wide fascination with the supernatural and darkness that no one on this whole site can deny why can't there a God. There is evidence of Him too.
    "I believe reallyreallyreally hard" isn't evidence
    The first line of your post makes no sense btw, "why can't there a god"
    And why the escalating fascination with the supernatural regardless of your beliefs if there is truly nothing beyond this life. The general rule is God created satan and he went bad and was chucked down here along with all of us who sinned. So how many of us want to rise out of the miry pit you share with him. I'll tell you...very few of you.
    What escalating fascination? There's always been a fascination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    sukikettle wrote: »
    So I conclude with such an obvious heavy presence of satan and the mass collusion that's going on. With such a world wide fascination with the supernatural and darkness that no one on this whole site can deny why can't there a God. There is evidence of Him too. And why the escalating fascination with the supernatural regardless of your beliefs if there is truly nothing beyond this life. The general rule is God created satan and he went bad and was chucked down here along with all of us who sinned. So how many of us want to rise out of the miry pit you share with him. I'll tell you...very few of you.

    Are you mental???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    sukikettle wrote: »
    Well Dark you can say all that but you have no control after you die my friend and curious how dark makes up the first half of your name when God means light...He's not a spook in the sky at all and how can you possibly have such contempt for something you have no belief in. How do you explain the annoyance that curdles in that little tummy of yours when you read posts like mine.

    That curdling feeling is the same one I get whenever I talk to an ignorant, condescending christian. Its really like talking to a brick wall at the end of the day. Already, you are using my username to make opinions about what I do and do not believe in, when in fact you know nothing of me. Generalising again.
    You should examine why things dark hold a fascination with people especially kids and ask yourself who is actually behind it. You can't have failed to miss the up surge of skulls and crossbones and dragons and all the books, movies and cartoons for kids are all dark, magical, occultist. That isn't a coincidence. There is a force rising to destroy and it's in all the music too. That force is satan...so on who's behalf are you speaking. Do you truly know what is going on are you so blind.

    You appear to be the one who is quite blind from the looks of things here. You are equating a rise in interest of the fantasy world in media, to being the work of another entity called satan. Did it cross your mind that there is something called imagination, or is that frowned upon by your faith as well?

    As for asking me who's side I'm on, I've already made quite clear that I do not believe in either your god or satan and to be honest, you are giving me perfect fuel to continue to ignore them. If religious people are so out of touch with reality that they have to blame things that don't agree with their own morals on another spook, then you are welcome to be among them and I will happily stay far away from such people.


    There seems to be a problem with believing the supernatural but you can't deny the presence of darkness, the breakdown of an economy owing to greed, escalating conflicts, erratic weather (please spare me the greenhouse chatter) and what's happened to the family. It's breaking down. Why do we take all this squarely on the chin. I bet you drank with someone with satan or a skull on his t-shirt but that's ok..you've never questioned it

    The breakdown of the world economy due to bad lending practices and human greed? Yes. The breakdown of said economy due to the boogeyman you call satan? No. And once again to finish your post, you generalise me without even knowing a thing about me. Drinking with someone with satan on his shirt? If you are trying to equate my non belief to some teenager rebelling against religion, you are again failing miserably.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Terodil


    sukikettle wrote: »
    There is evidence of Him too.
    Where?
    sukikettle wrote: »
    The general rule is God created satan and he went bad and was chucked down here along with all of us who sinned.
    The general rule?

    a. Where is that rule laid down?
    b. Where is the document that shows that that 'rule' has been 'generally' endorsed? By who?

    I think you are a little confused about the meaning of 'evidence' and 'general' and 'rule'...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    I don't have contempt for the athiest. I will talk to and help out who I can in this life. I don't have contempt for athiest beliefs because you have none. You feel you have the right to be quite offensive against a God I believe in. When you run out of things to say you call me a troll and clamour about me stomping on your beliefs....how come you've nothing to say on the other stuff I've written.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    I think Jesus is an awesomely generous guy.
    The fact he lets Suki in his gang speaks volumes.

    I sometimes forget about the whole satan thing. It really manages to be the icing on the cake of absurdity.
    Satan is rising? Drivel pal, absolute drivel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    By the by, shouldn't any thread about Jesus really be put in the Zombie forum? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    DarkJager wrote: »
    God doesn't exist.

    GOD does exist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    Tero...that is written about in Isaiah. He was an angel of light who thought he could be God and he was hurled to the earth along with a third of the angels. His job was to create music and isn't he doing a fine job of it today...What cds do you have. I bet you won't answer that honestly. And yes there is plenty of evidence there is a God. You're belief in a big bang and evolution is just as absurd. If you were to make a milkshake out of a frog...it will stay a milkshake.Why don't you look up the fact all evolution and Darwinism is all theory. You can't even explain why there is a flood in every single culture (Noah) and giants who experimented with DNA in every culture (fallen angels evidence that they roamed the earth among men) explain that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    GOD does exist

    Prove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    GOD does exist

    OH no he doesn't :pac:

    This thread was bound for pantomime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    sukikettle wrote: »
    Tero...that is written about in Isaiah. He was an angel of light who thought he could be God and he was hurled to the earth along with a third of the angels. His job was to create music and isn't he doing a fine job of it today...What cds do you have. I bet you won't answer that honestly. And yes there is plenty of evidence there is a God. You're belief in a big bang and evolution is just as absurd. If you were to make a milkshake out of a frog...it will stay a milkshake.Why don't you look up the fact all evolution and Darwinism is all theory. You can't even explain why there is a flood in every single culture (Noah) and giants who experimented with DNA in every culture (fallen angels evidence that they roamed the earth among men) explain that

    Your belief that some guy just clicked his fingers and made everything appear is probably the most absurd ever made. I think you need a big glass of reality juice.


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