Girl Dies in Washing Machine

FebruaryFuhrer · 04-02-2009 01:44PM #1

From the New York Times:

MISSION VIEJO, Calif. (AP) -- Authorities say a 4-year-old girl died after she climbed into a washing machine and her little brother switched it on.

Orange County sheriff's officials say Kayley Ishii apparently climbed into the front-loading washer Monday and her 15-month-old brother managed to start the device.

Sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino says the machine's controls were 20 inches from the floor and the start switch was a simple push button.

The girl was in the water-filled, tumbling machine for at least two minutes before her mother found her. Her death was ruled accidental.

Investigators say the mother could not explain why Kayley climbed inside the machine.
Says Amormino: ''They don't know if they were playing or what.''

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/02/03/us/AP-Washer-Death.html

Should the parent/s be charged over this?

Mimikyu · 04-02-2009 01:45PM

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S.I.R · 04-02-2009 01:46PM

jasus, did she hitthe turbo spin too ??

its weird how lifes can be washed away like that :eek:

Mena · 04-02-2009 01:48PM

FebruaryFuhrer wrote: »

From the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/02/03/us/AP-Washer-Death.html

Should the parent/s be charged over this?

Sad story, but (assuming the facts as presented are verified and accurate) why in the hell should the parents be charged? Gross negligence in respect of 24 hour washing machine security?

Quazzie · 04-02-2009 01:48PM

I heard a rumour the brother has been hard on the booze lately and that he pushed her in*

*Source

Law & Order SVU

S.I.R · 04-02-2009 01:49PM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

I heard a rumour the brother has been hard on the booze lately and that he pushed her in*

*Source
Law & Order SVU

*cut to DNA evidence and silly overly done camera angles to the busty blonde science chick * :pac:

banquo · 04-02-2009 01:51PM

Tragic, but we don't know to what extent the parents are at fault.

God, what a way to go.

MagicMarker · 04-02-2009 01:53PM

I always knew hotpoint were a bunch of murdering bastards.

stovelid · 04-02-2009 01:54PM

FebruaryFuhrer wrote: »

Should the parent/s be charged over this?

You're joking, right?

Mingey · 04-02-2009 01:54PM

Ah well. At least she'll be nice and clean.

Sad story though. I could imagine something like this happening quite easily.

Rabies · 04-02-2009 01:57PM

It was an accident. You can't blame the parents. It happens, but thankfully rarely.

FebruaryFuhrer · 04-02-2009 01:57PM

stovelid wrote: »

You're joking, right?

Not joking, also didn't say that I personally agree. Just attempting to provoke a discussion. Which is difficult when everyone has the same opinion.

The_Minister · 04-02-2009 02:00PM

The parents will probably have to hire a PR consultant to put a good spin on this.

Hopefully their reputations come out clean.

Quazzie · 04-02-2009 02:06PM

walshb wrote: »

Well, why was two young children left alone?
A 4 year old is bad enough; but leaving a 15 month old
baby alone is IMO very poor form!

A bit like Maddie McCann; left alone with two young
children. That was also very poor form!

Am I right in guessing you are not a parent?

gamblitis · 04-02-2009 02:11PM

The_Minister wrote: »

Hopefully their reputations come out clean.

I doubt it.Id say he forgot to put in detergent.

MagicMarker · 04-02-2009 02:13PM

walshb wrote: »

Well, why was two young children left alone?
A 4 year old is bad enough; but leaving a 15 month old
baby alone is IMO very poor form!

A bit like Maddie McCann; left alone with two young
children. That was also very poor form!

Err, it sounds like she was in the next room ffs!

stovelid · 04-02-2009 02:19PM

walshb wrote: »

Well, why was two young children left alone?
A 4 year old is bad enough; but leaving a 15 month old
baby alone is IMO very poor form!

A bit like Maddie McCann; left alone with two young
children. That was also very poor form!

Either you're not a parent, or you attach your children to you with leashes.

Turd Ferguson · 04-02-2009 02:23PM

I can forsee this thread will spin out of control.

MagicMarker · 04-02-2009 02:29PM

walshb wrote: »

And one needs to be a parent to understand the concept. I am by the way and I took my eye of my child for 2 secs and the child fell down the stairs. Now, it doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure out that if you tun your back for a second with a young child, they can be in real danger; never mind two minutes, as was the "reported" case here.

BTW, my child wasn't hurt badly; just a shock. That's not to say worse could not have happened.

I am doubting you are a parent, and if so; I'm rather concerned!

So, when in your presence your child is ALWAYS in your eyeline? You never for one second take your eye off them, apart from at the top of the stairs of course.

Seriously man, that's BS and you know it.

sillysasauge · 04-02-2009 02:34PM

A Child dying in a washing machine....Well Funny!
Just cos you cnuts are distanced from this doesn't make it less real.

phantom_lord · 04-02-2009 02:34PM

walshb wrote: »

Well, why was two young children left alone?
A 4 year old is bad enough; but leaving a 15 month old
baby alone is IMO very poor form!

A bit like Maddie McCann; left alone with two young
children. That was also very poor form!

lol

Turd Ferguson · 04-02-2009 02:36PM

Kids will do stupid things: FACT
It is what we did and it is what all kids do. But you need to let them make their own mistakes. Ok, a child dying is very bad but that is 1 child in 1,000,000,000. But scraped knees and bumps on the head growing up is what needs to happen. If you shelter your child from all germs and all danger they will grow up to be little pussies (couldnt think of a better way to put it).

stovelid · 04-02-2009 02:36PM

walshb wrote: »

And one needs to be a parent to understand the concept. I am by the way and I took my eye of my child for 2 secs and the child fell down the stairs. Now, it doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure out that if you tun your back for a second with a young child, they can be in real danger; never mind two minutes, as was the "reported" case here.

BTW, my child wasn't hurt badly; just a shock. That's not to say worse could not have happened.

I am doubting you are a parent, and if so; I'm rather concerned!

I am, albeit with a younger child.

If anybody here who has ever cared for a young child can genuinely say they've never let them out of their sight (in the house, obviously not outside or at the top of the stairs) for a minute or two, whether by distraction or some other reason, I salute them.

Not everyone is omniscient, however.

And they shouldn't be culpable for such a bizarre, statistically unlikely accident.

walshb · 04-02-2009 02:41PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

lol

laughs. Well, I'm glad you find deaths of young children funny?:rolleyes:

walshb · 04-02-2009 02:43PM

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

Kids will do stupid things: FACT
It is what we did and it is what all kids do. But you need to let them make their own mistakes. Ok, a child dying is very bad but that is 1 child in 1,000,000,000. But scraped knees and bumps on the head growing up is what needs to happen. If you shelter your child from all germs and all danger they will grow up to be little pussies (couldnt think of a better way to put it).

That's all part of growing up; children fall over, bang their knees and heads etc when
growing up; but it's not at all like leaving your child alone for a period of time and where anything can happen.

Genghiz Cohen · 04-02-2009 02:43PM

This thread is a Whirlpool of discussion. It's sad when a kiddie revolution ends in tragety but the truth will come out in the wash.

walshb · 04-02-2009 02:46PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Err, it sounds like she was in the next room ffs!

What; what use is that. She might as well have been out of the bloody
country. The child is dead and is dead because the parent did not protect her. Because she wasn't there to protect her. She didn't know what her
child was doing. That is alarming!

The child was left alone to climb into a machine while her 15 month
old brother then turned on the machine.

Hey, it didn't have to be a washing machine that killed her.

BnA · 04-02-2009 02:47PM

S.I.R wrote: »

jasus, did she hitthe turbo spin too ??

its weird how lifes can be washed away like that :eek:

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

I heard a rumour the brother has been hard on the booze lately and that he pushed her in*

*Source
Law & Order SVU

Mingey wrote: »

Ah well. At least she'll be nice and clean.

Sad story though. I could imagine something like this happening quite easily.

The_Minister wrote: »

The parents will probably have to hire a PR consultant to put a good spin on this.

Hopefully their reputations come out clean.

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

This thread is a Whirlpool of discussion. It's sad when a kiddie revolution ends in tragety but the truth will come out in the wash.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

There is nothing funny about any child's death.

stovelid · 04-02-2009 02:47PM

walshb wrote: »

Stove, I agree that it's not humanly possible; but this case was a little extreme don't you think, and I can safely say that I never left my child alone for more than say 30 seconds. The time I did take my eye off her, the fall happened. That's my point.

It was about 25 secs she was out of my sight, climbed up a few stairs and fell down.
That's how long it took!

This reported case is different and a whole lot different than taking you eye of your child for a second to maybe fetch a bottle from the fridge or tie you shoe lace

Fair enough if she left them alone for extended periods of time, but the story is quite short on detail. She may have been satisfied that the room was perfectly child-safe, and was occupied for 2-3 minutes. It's an awful, but highly unlikely thing to happen.

If she was, say, upstairs for ages leaving the kids downstairs: fair enough; if it was just a minor lapse of concentration for 2-3 minutes, it's hardly worth apportioning blame. The mother could have been dog-tired, and lost concentration for a minute or two. As a parent, you know how exhausting full-time child care is.

Perspective is needed here. There are really negligent parents out there, and it's easy to point the finger.

Cathmandooo · 04-02-2009 02:48PM

walshb wrote: »

Stove, I agree that it's not humanly possible; but this case was a little extreme don't you think, and I can safely say that I never left my child alone for more than say 30 seconds. The time I did take my eye off her, the fall happened. That's my point.

It was about 25 secs she was out of my sight, climbed up a few stairs and fell down.
That's how long it took!

This reported case is different and a whole lot different than taking you eye of your child for a second to maybe fetch a bottle from the fridge or tie your shoe lace

Sorry but do you never even go to the toilet for longer than 30 seconds when minding your kids? You can't possibly watch them 24 hours a day. You do your best to make their environment as safe as possible but accidents happen. If this report is how it happened then it's a terrible tragedy but no fault on the parents..

Fad · 04-02-2009 02:48PM

FebruaryFuhrer wrote: »

Just attempting to provoke a discussion.

In After Hours?

HAH

Girl Dies in Washing Machine

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