Pocketing the cashback....

Adyx · 02-02-2009 03:50AM

Degsy wrote: »

More accurately thats what they get for paying 17 quid for two drinks.
Should have called the thieving barman every name under the sun,spilt the drinks and then walked out without paying.

Where does it say they spent €17 on two drinks? And plenty of barstaff give the customer too much change. It's a hell of alot more common than shortchanging. You don't hear about it because people don't whinge on the internet about getting one over on barstaff.

gamblitis · 02-02-2009 05:42AM

Degsy wrote: »

I have heard this sort of story a dozen times in Dublin bars and people say "Oh he was busy,he made amistake".
Yeah?
Why do you never hear of the barman making a mistake and giving the customer too much money instead of too little?
Thieving,dirty bastards.

Don't paint us all with the one brush.We all make mistakes, although i can't speak for the barman in question but we aren't all like that.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-02-2009 05:49AM

nevaeh-2die-4 wrote: »

ha ha thats what ya get for buying a gin and tonic its not 1950 anymore get with the times.

You mean it's more than 20€...?! Sh1t...

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-02-2009 05:52AM

YDMHSSB wrote: »

not totally on topic but still related, but rather than start another thread i paid €6.60 for a pint of heineken in one pub in town. the dearest ive ever paid in this country. needless to say, left the place as soon as. what a rip off. there should be a pub avoidance day in lreland where people just go to offies and boycot pubs. i never really care about the price of drink but this really really bugged me.

I paid that same price at the Olympic Stadium on Saturday.
(Mind you, I did get a litre....)

Chucky the tree · 02-02-2009 05:55AM

Odeon?

AlkalineAcid · 02-02-2009 06:08AM

Degsy wrote: »

More accurately thats what they get for paying 17 quid for two drinks.
Should have called the thieving barman every name under the sun,spilt the drinks and then walked out without paying.

What part of having already paid with a laser card didn't you get?

Shiminay · 02-02-2009 07:00AM

Ian C wrote: »

Was given change from a 50 instead of a 20 at a friend's 21st in the Montclare a couple of years back. It happens.

(And yes I did give it back)

Thanks for that

Kharn
(the current Night Manager in the Mont Clare

)

On-topic - these things do happen. Any idea how long the guy had been working? Mighta been in since 2pm in the day and was just frazzled tired and forgot. I'm glad you got your €20 though.

MarkR · 02-02-2009 07:37AM

Well at least you put an angry anonymous post on the internet. That'll learn him.

Ass · 02-02-2009 10:32AM

The worst is when you've got no change and you have to give them a €50 note for about €15 worth of drinks and they give you change of a €5 back in change. You'll never see the rest of the change because no how much you argue with them they can't take the risk of paying out money on your word alone.

I'm sure if you get the manager in most places, they can at least check the cameras to see the transaction. But that isn't going to happen if you're in a club or a busy bar

S.I.R · 02-02-2009 10:43AM

Louise77 wrote: »

Not looking for perfection. Just an apology - would that be fair, or do i ask too much?

if your nice, their nice back....

dont lower your standards for any man...

unless its baz from rte...

" he's a beaut " :rolleyes:

Degsy · 02-02-2009 05:04PM

Adyx wrote: »

And plenty of barstaff give the customer too much change. It's a hell of alot more common than shortchanging. You don't hear about it because people don't whinge on the internet about getting one over on barstaff.

It is in its bollocks more common than shortchanging.
A lot of barmen are on the take and the OP refered to one of them.
If they hadnt called him on it he wasnt going to suddenly remember an hour later and go looking for them with the money.
The amount of times i've had clown barmen trying to shortchange me because they thought i'd let it go.
Its a tradition with some of them..

Slow Motion · 02-02-2009 05:19PM

Degsy wrote: »

I have heard this sort of story a dozen times in Dublin bars and people say "Oh he was busy,he made amistake".
Yeah?
Why do you never hear of the barman making a mistake and giving the customer too much money instead of too little?
Thieving,dirty bastards.

Funnily enough was in a bar many moons ago with the brother, late 80s, we were broke and unemployed much like everyone else, anyway it was my round, I went up to the bar and ordered two pints, gave the guy a fiver (yes back then you could get two pints for a fiver :eek:), he goes to the till and proceeds to give me change of a tenner.

Myself and the brother are thinking score! So in case he noticed his mistake we took our pints and went into another part of the bar. Half an hour later it's my round again, I go up to the bar and yer man is in that part now, thinking I'm busted I ask for two pints hand over a tenner this time (the one he gave me) and he proceeds to give me change of a twenty

I think he was helping himself to the shorts!

Edit: I have no qualms with keeping the money (sorry Kharn) as I said we were broke and this particular pub was somewhere that could well afford it and the barmen were dicks to a man!

Sharpshooter · 02-02-2009 05:22PM

esel wrote: »

Are you soft? The bent barman will always wait until later to retrieve the €20 from the till!

Being the type who wouldn't dream of fleecing someone of their hard earned cash, I wouldn't have a clue how it's done.
I am now a bit wiser.

Am I soft?
/silky soft,so Im told.:)

Professey Chin · 02-02-2009 05:26PM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Am I soft?
/silky soft,so Im told.:)

Its true:pac:

DonkeyPunch · 02-02-2009 05:31PM

Degsy wrote: »

Why do you never hear of the barman making a mistake and giving the customer too much money instead of too little?
Thieving,dirty bastards.

I was in a boozer on the quays on Saturday night, When my mate got his change of €20 from 2 drinks (vodka & coke and JD & Coke) he made a comment to the barman that it must have been wrong. The barman then said "Sorry mater it was a fifty you gave me, wasn't it", he turned back to the till and took out another €30 and handed it over to my mate.
Get In!

Sharpshooter · 02-02-2009 05:33PM

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Its true:pac:

Shush...

chopperbyrne · 02-02-2009 05:34PM

Louise77 wrote: »

I'm sick of Dublin and it's rip off prices and rip off ways...Will not be back in that establishment again.

What has one bad experience in one bar on Harcourt Street got to do with the rest of Dublin?

Professey Chin · 02-02-2009 05:38PM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Shush...

You never let me tell anyone:(

kf1920 · 02-02-2009 05:48PM

This shortchanging also happens in Fast Food joints after nightclubs. I know of one spot with one Nightclub and one irish Fast Food franchise joint. And the Staff used to not only shortchange people they had a competition to see who cud amass the largest amount of money by shortchanging drunk clubbers.

gamblitis · 02-02-2009 05:51PM

Cheeky bastrds

Davidius · 02-02-2009 05:59PM

Degsy wrote: »

Why do you never hear of the barman making a mistake and giving the customer too much money instead of too little?

Well if you told somebody everybody would know you were a criminal!

Now being serious for a second:
Mistakes happen blah blah, why does everybody keep paying them if their prices are so outrageous? They're hardly going to lower their prices if you're willing to pay more.

Degag · 02-02-2009 06:16PM

Degsy wrote: »

More accurately thats what they get for paying 17 quid for two drinks.
Should have called the thieving barman every name under the sun,spilt the drinks and then walked out without paying.

Ok, first of all it isn't the barmans fault the drinks are expensive. He doesn't set the prices. Second of all thats the most immature attitude i've ever heard. You should ask the price of the drink if you are not prepared to pay a certain price and certainly not spill it intentionally... if anything you should try and return the drink and say you are not prepared to pay for it, at least the drink might be able to be sold on then.

Degsy wrote: »

It is in its bollocks more common than shortchanging.
A lot of barmen are on the take and the OP refered to one of them.
If they hadnt called him on it he wasnt going to suddenly remember an hour later and go looking for them with the money.
The amount of times i've had clown barmen trying to shortchange me because they thought i'd let it go.
Its a tradition with some of them..

How do you know alot of barmen are on the take? Have you actually worked in the trade? Have you seen it happen. I can honestly say that i haven't and i've been in the trade for over 10 years. I've often had people walk off without their change and i've always gone looking for them... How can you know with any sort of certainty that barmen who have shortchanged you did it on purpose? I would imagine that you don't.

Adyx · 02-02-2009 06:45PM

Degsy wrote: »

It is in its bollocks more common than shortchanging.
A lot of barmen are on the take and the OP refered to one of them.
If they hadnt called him on it he wasnt going to suddenly remember an hour later and go looking for them with the money.
The amount of times i've had clown barmen trying to shortchange me because they thought i'd let it go.
Its a tradition with some of them..

Of course you have years of experience behind you, managing bars and supervising barstaff. :rolleyes: I don't know what kind of f**ked-up bars you like to frequent but in all the places I've worked doing cash reconciliation etc. only once or twice has a member of staff been robbing and even then it was from the till not the customer. Any time a customer had a genuine change query, they always get their money back. A few barstaff, as in any retail job, might chance their arm but to say it's tradition is a talking a load of bollocks.

Degsy · 02-02-2009 07:08PM

There's been plenty of threads on this subject before and i've had it happen to me several times.
To me that makes it pretty widespread.
How often would somebody in a bank short change you?
if you ant work out how much change somebody is owed you shouldnt be handling money,stay as a cellar man.

Degag · 02-02-2009 07:14PM

Degsy wrote: »

There's been plenty of threads on this subject before and i've had it happen to me several times.
To me that makes it pretty widespread.
How often would somebody in a bank short change you?
if you ant work out how much change somebody is owed you shouldnt be handling money,stay as a cellar man.

So you are saying out of hundreds of transactions during a night there is absolutely no room for even 1 error?

Degsy · 02-02-2009 07:18PM

Degag wrote: »

So you are saying out of hundreds of transactions during a night there is absolutely no room for even 1 error?

So why didnt the barman in the OP's story say "oh shiit,sorry,my mistake?"
instead of copping an attitude?

Degag · 02-02-2009 07:22PM

Degsy wrote: »

So why didnt the barman in the OP's story say "oh shiit,sorry,my mistake?"
instead of copping an attitude?

Just because he's not polite doesn't necessarily make him a thief.

Degsy · 02-02-2009 08:00PM

Degag wrote: »

Just because he's not polite doesn't necessarily make him a thief.

That is perhaps true,but i would've though that he should've felt embarassed enough to at least offer an apology.
If i was made to look like a thief through my own stupidity i'd be mortified.

Frisbee · 02-02-2009 08:28PM

I work in a shop and quite often I'll forget to give someone their cashback with their receipt and have to be reminded.
People make mistakes

Hazys · 02-02-2009 09:09PM

Im guess is, it was a mistake. If the barman was doing it regularly he would be bound to be caught 50% of the time "forgetting" to give people their money back and the other bar staff would notice that this barman was a very forgetful but well-paid barman.

But would anybody here be suprised if this was true? Especially with the way Irish people are threated in bars and how they accept it.

The problem is generally not with the bar staff but with the publicans who run these bars. Bar staff do have a sh1tty job especially on nites where the bar is packed and they are under staffed. The bar staff's performance is based on how many are working a night and how much people are left into a bar, which is all decided by management.

Pocketing the cashback....

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