[Article] Eircom to cut off Music File Sharers ..

I think artists make approx 10 cent to every 2 dollars on an album, so if i download an album worth 14 dollars i would be happy to send the artist 70cent so they wouldnt be losing out

Eircom, who gives a flyin f**k what they think. Id say they provide the worst broadband in europe. can u imagine what isps in Holland or Germany might say, been 50 times the speed of Eircom:rolleyes:. They r just annoyed cos torrent are making their crap bb even worse. P2P is the future!! Get over it;)

Essential reading on the subject.
http://www.futureofmusic.org/contractcrit.cfm
http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html

Thats what you are deadling with, people who leech the artists for everything they have got, their name, image, ownership and royalties.

It's piracy when the RIAA lobbies to change the bankruptcy law to make it more difficult for musicians to declare bankruptcy. Some musicians have declared bankruptcy to free themselves from truly evil contracts. TLC declared bankruptcy after they received less than 2 percent of the $175 million earned by their CD sales. That was about 40 times less than the profit that was divided among their management, production and record companies.

Toni Braxton also declared bankruptcy in 1998. She sold $188 million worth of CDs, but she was broke because of a terrible recording contract that paid her less than 35 cents per album. Bankruptcy can be an artist's only defense against a truly horrible deal and the RIAA wants to take it away.

Artists want to believe that we can make lots of money if we're successful. But there are hundreds of stories about artists in their 60s and 70s who are broke because they never made a dime from their hit records. And real success is still a long shot for a new artist today. Of the 32,000 new releases each year, only 250 sell more than 10,000 copies. And less than 30 go platinum.

The four major record corporations fund the RIAA. These companies are rich and obviously well-represented. Recording artists and musicians don't really have the money to compete. The 273,000 working musicians in America make about $30,000 a year. Only 15 percent of American Federation of Musicians members work steadily in music.

But the music industry is a $40 billion-a-year business. One-third of that revenue comes from the United States. The annual sales of cassettes, CDs and video are larger than the gross national product of 80 countries. Americans have more CD players, radios and VCRs than we have bathtubs.

I bow down to thee, O' powerful greedy scumbag overlord, dictate to me how i should look and act, assign to me an image consultant and bleed me and "my" works dry, you ****.

generalmiaow wrote: »

That is not how the major p2p network monitors get IP addresses. Believe it or not, they believe they are acting ethically. I wish I could find a link but you will see if you look it up that they actually have to peer with you to log an IP. Simply being a member of the swarm is not enough to prove you are actually throughputting the relevant file pieces. PeerGuardian would be enough if it was up to date.

Some do this, some don't. PeerGuardian by the very nature of its publicly-maintained filter lists is massively open to abuse in any case.

http://www.p2p-blog.com/?itemid=686
http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/

TheDeficit wrote: »

Can someone please tell me why Eircom would agree to this, what do they stand to gain?

They save themselves a packet in lawsuits. Despite the fact that they are simply the provider and - in other jurisdictions - can't be held accountable for what someone does with their tool...much like the ESB can't be held accountable for someone using their electricity to power the tools with which they make a bomb. However standing up to the labels and contesting this in court will cost them a lot of money.

So after reading 32 pages of this tread here is what I get out of it.
U2 manager McGuinness thinks that illegal downloads are bad for his Netherlands based business (and hence not paying taxes in Ireland) so he and others come together to form a cartel to stop Irish people from downloading illegal content.

That ISP does not have the money and technical ability to implement a system that allows them to monitor illegal downloads so they try to think of a way to make this easier for both ISP and Music Industries.

So the Industry takes the ISP to court and as outcome Eircom agrees to do the dirty work for the Music Industry.

To get around the tricky privacy law’s of Ireland and to eliminate any attempt by the suspected illegal downloader to demand proof that s/he downloaded or that there is actually a damage that was done to the Music Industry they come up with a change to the T&C of the ISP and call it a compromise.

So now the Music Industry pretends to make content available to get suspected illegal downloader’s so that they can get their IP’s. They then give this IP to Eircom who warns the suspected illegal downloader 3 times and then cuts the service off if the Music Industry reports him 3 times.

So a never happened act (because the file was never really available and even if it was there it was legal shared because otherwise Eircom would have to cut off the Music Industries Internet too) results into the ISP to cut you off.

Enraged ISP customers try to discuss ways around this (for whatever reason) and because the wonderful liable laws of Ireland they can’t do that in a public forum because the boards owner might get sued by the Music Industry. Free speech is just a concept in this country.

So the greed of the music industry aided by the incompetence of Eircom results in a discussion about net neutrality.

So as a next step the Irish TV companies that hold rights to US television shows are going after Eircom to ensure that nobody downloads shows from certain websites because that infringes their rights to show them 12-24 month after they have been shown in the US.

And just because P2P is slowly been replaced by file hosting services the next is that fake download links from those sites are also going to be given to Eircom for disconnecting.

And as internet is not a guaranteed right (or is it) nobody can do anything if you get disconnected for something you might not even have done.

The thought of a fair trial if you are accused of something has just gone out of the window due to 2 private organisations making an out of court settlement. Yes you can now be punished for something you might not even have done just because someone says so.

Now you bet that I’m not going down to the shop to buy the next U2 album (nor am I going to download it).

So what I continue to do is to listen to music online with a receiver from tobit which allows me to play music on demand in high quality. And because of the wonderfull laws in some countries that is actualy perfectly legal.