Guinness and Ireland

javaboy · 29-01-2009 05:55PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

On a related matter, it may interest readers to know that the Guinness Book of Records is no longer owned by Guinness.

And Ripley's Believe it or not is now owned by the Jim Pattison Group. It's all been a pack of lies!

ShooterSF · 29-01-2009 05:58PM

javaboy wrote: »

You just can't get good head these days.

Wrong topic. Sex and sexuality is that-a-way.

robinph · 29-01-2009 05:58PM

faceman wrote: »

I heard an interview with James May about beer recently and he commented on stout saying that when he was in Ireland there were some even better stout gems being brewed that the international community never hears about - nor do many irish people! He didnt mention anything in particular but it sounded like he was thinking of a the "Plain" stout you can get in the porterhouse pubs in Dublin

"Oz and James drink to Britain" was in Ireland this week and trying their best not to mention the G word. But they did manage to find some decent other Irish beers eventually in the Bull & Castle. Just the Irish seem to be very against anything new so just tend to stick to the same usual rubbish beers all the time, although that is starting to change now with the likes of the Bull & Castle and more Porterhouses opening up which server more than just the Bud/ Guinness/ Carlsberg crap that you get everywhere else.

Ireland is only the third or fourth biggest market for Guinness though after the UK, Nigeria and somewhere else that I've now forgotten. But there is none brewed in the UK anymore.

29-01-2009 05:59PM

Riddle101 wrote: »

Why dose Ireland have to be associated with Guinness, why can't it be associated with Bulmers instead. I for one think we should switch our national Alocholic drink to Bulmers, Who's with me:D

Because Bulmers is pure S***e that most people stop drinking when they turn 17.

PrivateEye · 29-01-2009 06:00PM

What do people think of the stout in the Porterhouse by the way?

Wasn't too keen. Not bad like, but not the Gs. I'd enjoy the odd pint of Beamish, so I'm not stuck to the one.

robinph · 29-01-2009 06:03PM

PrivateEye wrote: »

What do people think of the stout in the Porterhouse by the way?

Wasn't too keen. Not bad like, but not the Gs. I'd enjoy the odd pint of Beamish, so I'm not stuck to the one.

I believe that one is a porter and not a stout. Porter was an English drink which Guinness then made some changes to and created the stout, or something along those lines.

r3nu4l · 29-01-2009 06:07PM

robinph wrote: »

I believe that one is a porter and not a stout. Porter was an English drink which Guinness then made some changes to and created the stout, or something along those lines.

Here's the wiki on porter, I'm sure that oblivious or BeerNut or other regulars from Beers, Wines and Spirits could give more info.

Earthhorse · 29-01-2009 06:11PM

javaboy wrote: »

And Ripley's Believe it or not is now owned by the Jim Pattison Group. It's all been a pack of lies!

I don't know that I believe that.

sunnyjim · 29-01-2009 07:50PM

faceman wrote:

Most Guinness exports are actually brewed in the UK. Guinness had considered at one stage closing James Gate but held off because of the brand association with the location.

Errr, no. Guinness for Ireland is brewed in Dublin.

Afterall its not "our" (as in Irish) Guinness no more, its Diageo's. There was a time when I was growing up that regardless of whether you were a Guinness drinker or not, there was a sense of pride in Guinness and its Irishness.

Ignore the global conglomerate who bought it out.

It's still fairly Irish. All the research done on the brand, the drink, future drinks and such is still done in the same lab in Dublin that's been running for 100 years. Diageo even expanded it.

It's Irish in that it started here. Even when it's brewed elsewhere it is lab analysts and chemists here who test it, lay down the technologies and go over to pass on 250 years of experience in setting up the brewing. It'll never leave dublin, there's too much experience in them acres.

R3nu4l wrote:

Also, Guinness destined for the Caribbean is brewed on the island of St Vincent in the Caribbean and it tasted the same to me as the Guinness brewed in Dublin.

There's actually 53 (possibly more) Guinness breweries around the world. There's a few in the caribbean itself,; St Kitts, St Lucia, St Vincent, Jamacia. I'm missing 1 or 2. A lot of work goes in to making sure that the black stuff produced is all to standard. Both the modern analytical way and through the Sensory Analysis panel (bunch of oul lads who are paid to drink it)

RandolphEsq · 29-01-2009 07:55PM

Can't wait for my few Guinness tonight in the comfortable surroundings of an Irish pub*

*LVA authorised comment

Davidius · 29-01-2009 08:06PM

faceman wrote: »

Thats a debate for a different thread. Its not what Im talking about here.

Yes it is. It's exactly what you're talking about. Just think about it! See? What do you mean "no"? So you're calling me a liar? I refuse to speak to you further as you clearly don't have enough respect for anybody to make any conversation worthwhile! :mad:

Riddle101 · 29-01-2009 11:11PM

Jacqueline Few Schoolroom wrote: »

Because Bulmers is pure S***e that most people stop drinking when they turn 17.

A Guinness drinker telling me Bulmers is sh**te? that's rich. Guinness taste like sick and earwhacks mixed together. Bulmers is heaven covered in sex

And where did you ever get the notion that people stop drinking it when they turn 17, people are more likely to start drinking Bulmer when they turn 17

madmik · 29-01-2009 11:16PM

Riddle101 wrote: »

A Guinness drinker telling me Bulmers is sh**te? that's rich. Guinness taste like sick and earwhacks mixed together. Bulmers is heaven covered in sex

And where did you ever get the notion that people stop drinking it when they turn 17, people are more likely to start drinking Bulmer when they turn 17

honestly bulmers is pi$$

if u wont take his word for it take mine

guinness isnt a sihtload better

if u want a good beer look to belgium or germany

clicks · 29-01-2009 11:21PM

faceman wrote: »

Most Guinness exports are actually brewed in the UK.

I'm sure someone else has already said this but I doubt that given they shut down UK production and export it to there from Dublin.

lostexpectation · 30-01-2009 12:00AM

bord failte and the st patricks organisation needs to activley reduce alcohol promos if we are to be said to be serious about reducing bad drinking.

3greenrizla's · 30-01-2009 12:21AM

Stout (internationally known as Guinness), Whiskey, and Poteen, are alcoholic drinks associated with Ireland.

no more than...

madmik wrote: »

if u want a good beer look to belgium or germany

...infact I am looking forward to going to Germany in a few weeks and will enjoy many jugs of local German beer.

Riddle101 wrote: »

Why dose Ireland have to be associated with Guinness, why can't it be associated with Bulmers instead. I for one think we should switch our national Alocholic drink to Bulmers, Who's with me:D

I enjoy Bulmers (probably because I did not start drinking it until I was 20 or so, and I had poisoned myself with Budweiser until then)
but i would not really call Cider an Irish drink, it's internationally known as Magners, and it is not as internationally available as Guinness.

- a little story- last year when I was in Germany I was sitting at the Bar in the local Irish pub watching them serve pitchers of Guinness, all the head was lost when the Guinness was poured into glasses but the Germans were loving it.

faceman · 30-01-2009 03:28PM

sunnyjim wrote: »

Errr, no. Guinness for Ireland is brewed in Dublin.

I didnt suggest otherwise. I said Guinness exports by which i mean Guinness intended for foreign shores.

I wasnt aware the UK brewery had been closed.

Davidius wrote: »

Yes it is. It's exactly what you're talking about. Just think about it! See? What do you mean "no"? So you're calling me a liar? I refuse to speak to you further as you clearly don't have enough respect for anybody to make any conversation worthwhile! :mad:

Ive thanked your post because its the most mental one Ive read today

You are missing my point. My point is concerning a now global brand/company that is exploiting its origins for its own gain, rather than embracing/respected it. Im not debating the ethics of alcohol association with the Irish culture. I am discussing corporate policy of an irish grown organisation and its perception amongst the consumer both domestically and internationally.

If there is another irish company that you feel we can discuss instead, please feel free to suggest it.

sunnyjim · 30-01-2009 03:31PM

I didnt suggest otherwise. I said Guinness exports by which i mean Guinness intended for foreign shores.

I wasnt aware the UK brewery had been closed.

Very little is exported, as there are 54 breweries around the world making the stuff for local markets.

Davidius · 30-01-2009 03:35PM

faceman wrote: »

serious reply

Um....:pac:

Robclarke70 · 30-01-2009 03:37PM

Davidius wrote: »

I dream of a world where being Irish isn't associated with alcoholism.

Let's ban all advertisement of alcoholic drinks!

are you a non drinker then?

faceman · 30-01-2009 03:40PM

Davidius wrote: »

Um....:pac:

Caught with me pants down!

toiletduck · 30-01-2009 03:46PM

Riddle101 wrote: »

A Guinness drinker telling me Bulmers is sh**te? that's rich. Guinness taste like sick and earwhacks mixed together. Bulmers is heaven covered in sex

And where did you ever get the notion that people stop drinking it when they turn 17, people are more likely to start drinking Bulmer when they turn 17

It's pure slop but advertised very well. Who else would have the cheek to suggest paying a euro (at least) extra for the same amount as a pint but in bottled form so that you can "craft your own art" or some other wankology.

big b · 30-01-2009 04:00PM

Riddle101 wrote: »

A Guinness drinker telling me Bulmers is sh**te? that's rich. Guinness taste like sick and earwhacks mixed together. Bulmers is heaven covered in sex

And where did you ever get the notion that people stop drinking it when they turn 17, people are more likely to start drinking Bulmer when they turn 17

I'll take your word for that.
I'll also assume you meant earwax, although who knows...........

kevmy · 30-01-2009 04:05PM

Riddle101 wrote: »

A Guinness drinker telling me Bulmers is sh**te? that's rich. Guinness taste like sick and earwhacks mixed together. Bulmers is heaven covered in sex

And where did you ever get the notion that people stop drinking it when they turn 17, people are more likely to start drinking Bulmer when they turn 17

Bulmers: 90% gas, 5% apple juice, 5% alcohol - 100% piss

Sherifu · 30-01-2009 04:38PM

Riddle101 wrote: »

A Guinness drinker telling me Bulmers is sh**te? that's rich. Guinness taste like sick and earwhacks mixed together. Bulmers is heaven covered in sex

And where did you ever get the notion that people stop drinking it when they turn 17, people are more likely to start drinking Bulmer when they turn 17

Bulmers?

Bahahahahahahahahahaha.........

IronMan · 30-01-2009 05:42PM

The big problem with Guinness draught is that as far as stouts go, it just isn't very good. It has become bland, and gives a rotten hangover. The major breweries have done the market research and it seems people like beer that is very cold, fizzy and tasting of pretty much nothing. Guinness followed the trend.

If you want a better example of what real stout should taste like pick up a bottle of Guinness Extra stout, O'Hara's stout, or visit the Porterhouse for a pint of their astonishingly good Wrasslers XXXX stout. Guinness like it should be.

Guinness and Ireland

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