Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do, interpretations

Martin25 · 13-09-2008 01:26PM

JKD is not a style because style confines us and becomes a cage.
It has a training method and this has evolved , however many of the techniques are still as valid today as they ever were.
My JKD group is a not for profit club and I don't charge for lessons so don't make a few quid as you say.
All the best to you in your training.
I think that we may have to agree to disagree.
Martin

dlofnep · 13-09-2008 01:30PM

Martin25 wrote: »

JKD is not a style because style confines us and becomes a cage.

I'm glad we agree.

Martin25 wrote: »

My JKD group is a not for profit club and I don't charge for lessons so don't make a few quid as you say.

I never said you were. It wasn't a pop at you Martin. However, not everyone is as generous as you. There are alot of people out there selling JKD and making a profit from something that is just an ideology.

Bruce Lee wrote:

Again let me remind you Jeet Kune Do is just a name used, a boat to get one across, and once across it is to be discarded and not to be carried on one's back.

Martin25 · 14-09-2008 10:27AM

No problem thats fine,I am in agreement with some of your points.

JKD is not a style in the traditional sense but it has a training method or guide to get the basics,techniques,motions. This process can be taught and is like for example, a person learning the English language alphabet,words,sentences creative writing and so on.
The problem is that very few people know the basics of JKD and a lot of Instructors just don't know or have completely abandoned Bruce's teachings in favour of some chop suey martial arts which throws together anything and call it JKD. They then defend this by saying that Bruce has been surpassed by them! Or that JKD is a model T ford and they have a sports car. They forget that JKD is one of the youngest martial arts, about 35 years old, much younger than the arts that they may in fact be practicing such as boxing,Thai Boxing,Karate, BJJ,Judo
In our class once a person gets the basics then they are free to be creative and find out what works best for themselves. Everyone is different and has different strengths and weaknesses.
For example the late Larry Hartsell did 90% grappling and sub wrestling in his JKD.Larry was one of the first to enter the no holds barred fights in the 1970/1980s and he was a great warrior.

Then the individual is encouraged to discover what works for themselves,free to be creative ,research, develop.

" Man the living creature the creative individual is always more important than any established system"
Bruce Lee
Good luck in your training!

Martin25 · 14-09-2008 11:16AM

My other response to earlier posts is that the letter from John Little inspired me to continue on with my work.

I have not been sidestepping questions so if asked a direct and honest question I will do my best to give an answer if I have one.
I don't have all the answers .

0littledragon0 · 17-01-2009 09:17PM

bruce himself had over 2600 books in his collection and at least 268 on boxing alone (sifu Ted Wong told me) and on getting letters of praise my instructor got a letter from Robert Lee a few years back thanking him for continuing bruces art on as it was meant to be, stripping away whats useless and using whats useful, Spiral has a great way of doing things 2-3 moves in class i do that myself well done Spiral keep up the good work

Martin25 · 21-01-2009 10:46AM

As requested
Here is an outline of a typical basic Tuesday class.
First hour
Warmup
Footwork
Straight lead punching in the air and on the pads
Straight blast training in the air and on the pads
Bridge punching with a training partner
Pak Sao
Jab cross to double leg take down.
Chi Sao

Second hour;
Conditioning Exercises
basic ground work
Sparring
stretch

Thursday Class
Stand up sparring and ground work, 2 hours

Saturday Class (non JKD)
Weapon training
Impact and edged

ginoginelli · 21-01-2009 02:34PM

Martin25 wrote: »

As requested
Here is an outline of a typical basic Tuesday class.
First hour
Warmup
Footwork
Straight lead punching in the air and on the pads
Straight blast training in the air and on the pads
Bridge punching with a training partner
Pak Sao
Jab cross to double leg take down.
Chi Sao

Second hour;
Conditioning Exercises
basic ground work
Sparring
stretch

Thursday Class
Stand up sparring and ground work, 2 hours

Saturday Class (non JKD)
Weapon training
Impact and edged

Looks like 2 fun classes!

Just a few quick questions for yourself Martin..

How effective is the straight blast punch in jkd? As it devoid of the full range of motion one would succeed if throwing a right hand cross in boxing, does the power significantly wane? My understanding is that it can be executed quite quickly without much set-up..Is this correct?

Cheers!

Martin25 · 21-01-2009 03:22PM

The straight blast is usually a short range "machine gun" type punching sequence.There are a couple of variations which we use and all are thrown with bad intentions.

ginoginelli · 21-01-2009 04:43PM

Martin25 wrote: »

The straight blast is usually a short range "machine gun" type punching sequence.There are a couple of variations which we use and all are thrown with bad intentions.

Thanks for your reply, but i think i confused the straight blast with the jkd lead punch! In regards to the lead punch, Ive seen a few examples on youtube of it and I heard Geff Thompson has a similar punch. Im just curious as to how functional it is? Have you or your students ever used this technique in a real life situation? and if so, how effective was it?

Martin25 · 21-01-2009 05:06PM

Hi
The straight blast has its roots firmly in the Wing Chun system.
The lead straight punch is from JKD.
It works well in self defence and it has been tried and tested.
Martin

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