Krav Maga, really good?

20-01-2009 09:00PM

I don't think the world is a scary place where training to kick people in the balls, poke people in the eye or use a windscreen whipper as a deadly weapon is justified.

Have you read the news? It's a system for self defence i.e. protecting yourself against people who are trying to kill you - do you really care what happens to the assailant? I don't want to kill anyone ever but if it comes down to me or him, and he is trying to kill me, I'll do what I have to do.

How come 99/100 people involved in these things are yuppy white guys in their 30s?

Yeah cos that's a valid statistic and not plucked from your arse! :rolleyes:

tallaght01 · 20-01-2009 09:12PM

Nothingcompares wrote: »

I don't like people who train with the aim of maiming people. I think it comes from a combination of insecurity and cowardice as well as Batman fantasies. Krav Maga and combatives in general, in my opinion, represent this view point.

I don't think the world is a scary place where training to kick people in the balls, poke people in the eye or use a windscreen whipper as a deadly weapon is justified.

How come in the real poor dangerous communities we never hear of people doing some hardcore martial arts training?

How come 99/100 people involved in these things are yuppy white guys in their 30s?

I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with telling someone to kick their attacker in the nuts if they're being attacked.

When i lived and worked in Johannesburg (one of the most violent cities in the world), the reasons why people weren't doing KM (or any other MA) were:

1) They'd rather eat than pay for a MA class.

2) They were all carrying guns and knives.

I could equally argue that training for an actal self defence situation is morally more acceptable to train for fighting an opponent for the entertainment of others/for your own ego.

yomchi · 20-01-2009 09:37PM

Nothingcompares wrote: »

I don't like people who train with the aim of maiming people. I think it comes from a combination of insecurity and cowardice as well as Batman fantasies. Krav Maga and combatives in general, in my opinion, represent this view point.

I don't think the world is a scary place where training to kick people in the balls, poke people in the eye or use a windscreen whipper as a deadly weapon is justified.

How come in the real poor dangerous communities we never hear of people doing some hardcore martial arts training?
How come 99/100 people involved in these things are yuppy white guys in their 30s?

I was brought up in a gaff with an outside toilet, no fridge and only RTE 1 and poxy 2. I wore my brothers clothes for years - and started Taekwon-Do at 8 years of age. Don't start any of that class talk with a silver spoon in your hand.

Nothingcompares · 20-01-2009 11:57PM

tallaght01 wrote: »

I could equally argue that training for an actal self defence situation is morally more acceptable to train for fighting an opponent for the entertainment of others/for your own ego.

i suppose vanity is the worst of the seven sins.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 21-01-2009 10:03AM

Lads, I might have come accross as a little blunt yesterday.

Its simple, it you enjoy K.M. then honestly thats the style you should stick to.

Just don't kid yourself that the Israeli's have found a sytem which is head and shoulders above everyone else just because they're a tough people with lots of wars under their belts.

Do what you enjoy.

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Pride Fighter · 21-01-2009 11:22AM

It does not look great to me, training for hypothetical situations and the like. One would be better off taking up rugby for self defense. The tackles you learn there would be of more benefit than talking about a guy doing this or that or somebody with a plastic knife performing a staged attack.

21-01-2009 06:06PM

Never once practiced a staged attack with a plastic knife. Hypothetical situations yes but free for all situations in training occur a lot of the time, generally the same principles apply whether the guy has a knife/weapon/gun or not; attack.

Krav Maga, really good?

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