Redundancy deal for Dell Workers

Thanks for that insight member of HR staff for Dell.

I'm an ex emplyee of Dell. For over 90% of the workers a swing shift is involved, this is worth 20% shift allowance but also means that you have to work one week v early morning starts and one week v late finishing time. It's only fair that the employees receive a reflection of that in their severance pay. This was not a surprise announcement, it's been alluded to for over two and a half years.

VO wrote: »

Mathew Dell did reap the rewards during their time in Limerick but so did the workers.

Michael

funk-you wrote: »

While i genuinely feel sorry for the Dell staff being made redundant, anything over statutory is a major bonus. A lot of people have to realise that employers don't owe workers anything. They get paid for the work they do.

-Funk

I have to agree with this, the sense of expectation or entitlement in recent years, over and above the statutory minimum, will be something that a lot of people will have difficulty getting past now that the real deal has come to town...

Cereal Killer wrote: »

Yes some companies are only offering statuary redundancy, but most of them are going under for bad sales, or bad management, and go into administration. Dell is hardy a company that doesn't make a profit, ever, so this is your difference.



Maybe a few years back they were looked after, that is not the case anymore. Benefits have been cutback or eliminated completely from the budgets. No Christmas bonus, no overtime, no payrises(or minimal ones like 2%). Infact, the company I work for has elimated the Christmas party, and it is one of the few Multinationals left in the country.

But that's the whole point - a Christmas party or bonus isn't an entitlement or even a benefit, it's a perk. People should be glad to get them while they're being offered, not moan as if they've been shortchanged in their salary when they're gone.

OPENROAD wrote: »

Just like when Dell originally located here, they did so because Ireland made them more money than other locations at the time-we were a low cost location, we no longer are for manufacturing jobs, I think people are still missing this point, as was mentioned Ireland in the good times should have been investing in upgrading peoples skills, improving infrastructure,broadband roll out which is still a joke in this country so that we would be in a position to be a leading player in attracting high tech jobs. Lets hope we can catch up,living in Dublin, I have only been able to get broadband in the last year :rolleyes:

It's amazing how in the last few years we somehow got it into our heads that we were different, that the normally accepted business rules didn't apply in Ireland, that somehow we had invented the economic equivilent of the perpetual motion machine!

Our property market, everywhere else where there was a massive property boom, was subsequently followed by a massive bust, but we allowed ourselves to believe that somehow in Ireland of all places, unique circumstances had developed that made us immune to this fundamantal reality that was the experience of other economies.

The same happened with the jobs market, everywhere else in the world, where business costs are allowed to get out of control and where competitiveness is undermined, jobs go overseas to cheaper locations, but we thought that somehow, high wages could be compatible in Ireland with sustainable employment by MNC's, in this little economic dream world we had allowed ourselves to fall asleep in!

I think this unbelievable self delusional ability of the Irish in recent years that let us actually think that some sort of different economic gravity was operating on our economy that that which operates everywhere else, deserves a special name or title, like our haplessly named Celtic Tiger!

It's actually like as if we were trying to prove the fu*king thing to ourselves as a theorem, so we'd up wages by 20% and the economy would jump another 8%, and so we'd do the same the following year and economic output would jump another 20%, and it was like some sort of equation that was operating in reverse, the more we hiked costs and wages, the stronger our economic figures appeared to be. Now we are like someone who has just jumped out of a plane without a parachute, after realising too late that gravity here is actually the same as everywhere else, but unfortunately the plane we just jumped out of is a fading dot now!