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Italians moving to Ireland. Why?

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  • #32
    Victor
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    It sure isn't for our weather
    Actually some people do want to get out of the heat and the sun.


  • #33
    ejmaztec
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    Perhaps they want to be accused of stealing all our jobs so that they can retaliate by fitting us all with concrete wellies and dumping us all of Mizen Head. :eek:


  • #34
    faceman
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    My local italian chipper has the obligatory "daughter of the italian owners" working in it. She is quite good looking BUT she has a huge ronnie.

    But quite worringly, i still would.


  • #35
    funloving
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    evercloserunion wrote: »
    Well AFAIK southern Italy has always been a fairly undeveloped area economically, with lots of poverty. And for the last 15 years or so Ireland has been doing very well for itself and has made a name internationally, so maybe they're still going on that.

    you must be joking..poverty? the South is less economically developed than the North but talking about poverty is wrong....

    As far as I'm concerned the only reason that led me to moving to Dublin was my Irish bf
    Unfortunately our govern is so sh1tty and consequently our economy too...but I love my country and I'll be always proud of being a hot Italian chick ;)


  • #36
    funloving
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What are you crappin on about? All the nicest chippers are Italian, and have been for donkey's. Macari's and Romayo's to name just two.

    strangely enough we don't have chippers here in Italy :rolleyes: :eek:


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  • #37
    Terry
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    funloving wrote: »
    strangely enough we don't have chippers here in Italy :rolleyes: :eek:
    Feed spuds to the Paddies.

    It's not rocket science.


  • #38
    funloving
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    <3BeingIN6th wrote: »
    Feed spuds to the Paddies.

    It's not rocket science.

    I was simply saying what another poster wrote about chippers and Italians...I found it strange that many chippers where run by us....

    it's not rocket science I know..


  • #39
    Terry
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    funloving wrote: »
    I was simply saying what another poster wrote about chippers and Italians...I found it strange that many chippers where run by us....

    it's not rocket science I know..
    I didn't mean offence. I was just stating the obvious.

    Spaghetti is a staple of the Italian diet and Potatos a staple of the Irish diet.

    Selling spuds to the Irish is a lot easier than selling snow to Eskimos.


  • #40
    Fajitas!
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    OP, which chipper?


  • #41
    funloving
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    <3BeingIN6th wrote: »
    I didn't mean offence. I was just stating the obvious.

    Spaghetti is a staple of the Italian diet and Potatos a staple of the Irish diet.

    Selling spuds to the Irish is a lot easier than selling snow to Eskimos.


    What I found strange wasn't the number of chippers but the Nationality of the owners..why Italians and not French,Germans etc...

    I know you didn't mean offence of course...


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  • #42
    galwayrush
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    funloving wrote: »
    strangely enough we don't have chippers here in Italy :rolleyes: :eek:
    Hahaha,True, i never saw one there,
    Seriously, Italy is the one country i would love to move to, great people, climate, food and wine, esp Amarone. I go there at least twice a year.:cool:


  • #43
    Terry
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    funloving wrote: »
    What I found strange wasn't the number of chippers but the Nationality of the owners..why Italians and not French,Germans etc...

    I know you didn't mean offence of course...
    I'd assume it's a bit like the Irish going abroad and working in construction.

    One person goes, gets a job. They tell their family and friends to come over and all of a sudden you have hundreds of people working in the same industry.


  • #44
    galwayrush
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    I always thought the Italian chippers here were started by Italians who originated from London / UK. A bit like Indian / Chinese restaurants.


  • #45
    Terry
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    galwayrush wrote: »
    I always thought the Italian chippers here were started by Italians who originated from London / UK. A bit like Indian / Chinese restaurants.
    Don't know about that.


    The local one (Macari's) is run by a man in his 70's and his wife and daughter.
    Their children both have strong Italian accents. Well, they used to. It's more Irish these days. They've been here since the 70's.

    The father still has land in Italy. I spoke to him recently and he had just come back from Italy. He still has very close ties to the place.

    They did quite well out of the chipper business.

    Three in this town along with a pizzeria with attached Italian restaurant and a mediterranian restaurant.
    Edit: They also bought what was an Abrakebabra and changed the name. Still sell the same types of food. Mairt used to be a bouncer there.


  • #46
    carlop
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    galwayrush wrote: »
    Hahaha,True, i never saw one there,
    Seriously, Italy is the one country i would love to move to, great people, climate, food and wine, esp Amarone. I go there at least twice a year.:cool:

    It is a great country, my mum's Italian and I lived there last year. However I'd say its nightlife lets it down, there just isn't the same buzz in a city that you get on a night out in Dublin, and clubs can be fairly pretentious. Having said that, Rolling Stone in Milan is probably my favourite nightclub.
    <3BeingIN6th wrote: »
    I'd assume it's a bit like the Irish going abroad and working in construction.

    One person goes, gets a job. They tell their family and friends to come over and all of a sudden you have hundreds of people working in the same industry.

    Yeah i'm pretty sure word of mouth spread about the stupid Irish who will eat anything thats cooked in batter. A lot of the families all come from the same area as well, in between Naples and Rome. I remember seeing the owner of the chipper (also a Macari) that was next to my secondary school in Rome airport...very random


  • #47
    Neamhshuntasach
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    I know there a load of Italians that do own and work in the chippers, but i've also noticed a lot of them with either Albanian, Romanian or Turkish people working in them. To most Irish people, they would just look Italian. I used to help my uncle when he serviced cash registers and a lot of the work was in chippers. So naturally i got talking to a few employees.


  • #48
    krugerrand
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    funloving wrote: »
    you must be joking..poverty? the South is less economically developed than the North but talking about poverty is wrong....

    As far as I'm concerned the only reason that led me to moving to Dublin was my Irish bf
    Unfortunately our govern is so sh1tty and consequently our economy too...but I love my country and I'll be always proud of being a hot Italian chick ;)


    I'd say the main reason young Italians, especially from the South of Italy, are moving to Dublin is due the economic situation in Italy. The economy in Italy is in bad shape.

    Interestingly, here's what some of our leaving certificate students are learning about Italy :):
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=263627


  • #49
    shqipshume
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    My fav one Marsella's in rathcoole hehe shout out :o


  • #50
    funloving
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    krugerrand wrote: »
    I'd say the main reason young Italians, especially from the South of Italy, are moving to Dublin is due the economic situation in Italy. The economy in Italy is in bad shape.

    Interestingly, here's what some of our leaving certificate students are learning about Italy :):
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=263627

    Unfortunately my wonderful country is losing many brains who can't find a decent and well paid job there, obliging them to migrate elsewhere...
    In Italy it's easier to find a manual job than one for a graduate...a cousin of mine is teaching in Harvard but in Italy couldn't find anything good for her :(


  • #51
    GAAman
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    Well ( in Dublin) there are 4 chippers within walkin distance of me and their names are, Mona Lisa's, Sandro's, Silvio's and Macari's there aint any other chippers around so thats that answered

    Up here in derry though i dont know of any italian places, and the chips here are useless :(


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  • #52
    tman
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    A local Italian chipper used to make the most awesome chicken curry chips with cheese ever... They stuck pizza cheese on top and stuck them in the pizza oven until it started to brown... I'm drooling just thinking about it now.

    It was taken over by a local family who couldn't even manage to defrost the bloody chips:(

    Italy 1
    Ireland 0


  • #53
    funloving
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    tman wrote: »
    A local Italian chipper used to make the most awesome chicken curry chips with cheese ever... They stuck pizza cheese on top and stuck them in the pizza oven until it started to brown... I'm drooling just thinking about it now.

    It was taken over by a local family who couldn't even manage to defrost the bloody chips:(

    Italy 1
    Ireland 0

    I've the feeling that this score is gonna be the same in April too :D:D


  • #54
    Aidric
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    They make the move for financial reasons initially but a lot of them stay on cause they like it here. I was chatting to a couple of Italians at a new years party and they've all been here over three years at this stage. They can get cheap flights home a few times a year and make good money here by their standards.


  • #55
    Earthhorse
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    They wanted to know what it's like to live in a country untroubled by corruption but didn't have the guts to go the whole hog.

    Also, the ones who own the bigger chains are minted and, you can tell from their complexion, aren't living on a diet of chips and battered sausages.


  • #56
    Aya Magnificent Mall
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    The Italians have been running chippers here for decades. People assume my mum or dad is Italian when in fact it was my great-grandparents who came over to open a chipper. My grandmother was born in Ireland and barely speaks any Italian. She's only been over a couple of times. There are loads of loads of us who are Irish but 1/4 or 1/8 Italian - most people just don't look it. I also know a good few people in their 20s with two Italian parents who speak Italian at home but who were born here and have Dublin accents. It's not a new thing at all.


  • #57
    Terry
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    tman wrote: »
    A local Italian chipper used to make the most awesome chicken curry chips with cheese ever... They stuck pizza cheese on top and stuck them in the pizza oven until it started to brown... I'm drooling just thinking about it now.

    It was taken over by a local family who couldn't even manage to defrost the bloody chips:(

    Italy 1
    Ireland 0
    Hold on a second.
    They used frozen chips?

    No decent Italian chippers use frozen chips.

    They use freshly chipped spuds and soak them in water for a couple of days.
    They have a machine that washes, peels and chips them.


  • #58
    Earthhorse
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    <3BeingIN6th wrote: »
    They have a machine that washes, peels and chips them.

    Yeah, it's called an Italian.

    Ahahahahaha, ahahaha!

    I'll shut up now.


  • #59
    Blackpitts
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    the reason is mainly one:
    In Italy we have the lowest salary in Europe and the highest taxation in Europe.

    A good salary for a graduated guy is almost 900 euro a month, which means about 12K before tax.

    Then add the fact that a good English language is necesary if you want to have a career and what you get in the school from the teachers is quite rubbish. Many people are simply moving abroad for few months to learn it properly.

    One last thing, if the guy is from the south, there are more chances to win the Euromillion than to get a decent job at home.

    So at the end there are 2 options: move to the North or move abroad.
    I went for the second option, we have a great history of emigration (US, South America, france, UK, belgium, Germany) so why I shoul drop the good old traditions? :)
    Sometimes I think that there are more Italians than Chinese spread all over the world :)

    p.s. and about me, one of the reasons I moved out was Berlusconi, i hate him!


  • #60
    funloving
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    Blackpitts wrote: »
    the reason is mainly one:
    In Italy we have the lowest salary in Europe and the highest taxation in Europe.

    A good salary for a graduated guy is almost 900 euro a month, which means about 12K before tax.

    Then add the fact that a good English language is necesary if you want to have a career and what you get in the school from the teachers is quite rubbish. Many people are simply moving abroad for few months to learn it properly.

    One last thing, if the guy is from the south, there are more chances to win the Euromillion than to get a decent job at home.

    So at the end there are 2 options: move to the North or move abroad.
    I went for the second option, we have a great history of emigration (US, South America, france, UK, belgium, Germany) so why I shoul drop the good old traditions? :)
    Sometimes I think that there are more Italians than Chinese spread all over the world :)

    p.s. and about me, one of the reasons I moved out was Berlusconi, i hate him!

    Berlusconi is a d1ckhead...1 coglionazzo Blackpitts,isn't he? :D
    Exploitation...that's the word crossing my mind now...sometimes you get paid 600 euros monthly for a full time job..wtf!!!
    Anyway moving abroad is a choice you can't make for the money only..it's a choice of lifestyle going beyond any economical and political reason


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  • #61
    kingofburt
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    Up here in derry though i dont know of any italian places, and the chips here are useless frown.gif

    Thats crazy talk, Fiorintinis on the Strand rd have been serving great chipper and ice cream for a couple of decades now and if you cross the border at Bridgend you'll get the best fresh cut chips in Dohertys.


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