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Italians moving to Ireland. Why?

  • 03-01-2009 12:12am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Now, I love Ireland. It suits my pasty white complexion and fierce appetite for bad health. But do these gorgeous Italian girls move from such a beautiful country to Ireland (equally also a beautiful country).. to serve chips to drunken Irish slobs who have just fell off their barstool? (not that I'm complaining).

    It sure isn't for our weather, or our dashing good looks! Or our economy.. My local chipper has at least 3 Italian hotties working there.

    Someone, explain. Preferably Italian. What's going on? It would be like me, moving to Poland building houses for the Polish. It just doesn't add up!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭Zatman


    Italy is one of the lowest paid countries in the EU so they have to come here to make good money.
    I have never saw beautiful women in my local chipper but must be location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Well AFAIK southern Italy has always been a fairly undeveloped area economically, with lots of poverty. And for the last 15 years or so Ireland has been doing very well for itself and has made a name internationally, so maybe they're still going on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    They're putting together files on Trap's army for the upcoming qualifiers. The drunken barstoolers in the chipper are a great source for tactical information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    High unemployment rate and actually there isn't even a minimum wage there.
    Ireland is as a good a place as any to relocate to.

    And if you think Irish politicians are corrupt, you'd want to see the Italians! Hey, one thing Ireland has is stable governments.

    Italy, great country and people but many poor areas and many politicians who can't/won't improve the situation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Four-Too


    Ahh, that is fecked up.. It's a fecked up world we live in. Our chippers are now being spoilt. Italians are only good at making spaghetti and pastas - it's insanity! Blasphemy! I wouldn;t eat those chips if they were free.
    The horror of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Four-Too wrote: »
    Ahh, that is fecked up.. It's a fecked up world we live in. Our chippers are now being spoilt. Italians are only good at making spaghetti and pastas - it's insanity! Blasphemy! I wouldn;t eat those chips if they were free.
    The horror of it.

    What are you crappin on about? All the nicest chippers are Italian, and have been for donkey's. Macari's and Romayo's to name just two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    Lots of sellers on e-bay won't post to Italy. I know someone who regularly sent packages to Italy that never arrived. Hand-delivers them now.

    Mafia control rubbish collection in Naples.

    Just two instances of how the country is corrupt from top to bottom. Beautiful place but it's a ****-hole in all other respects.

    Vote Yes to Lisbon, trust our European elite!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Lots of sellers on e-bay won't post to Italy. I know someone who regularly sent packages to Italy that never arrived. Hand-delivers them now.

    Mafia control rubbish collection in Naples.

    Just two instances of how the country is corrupt from top to bottom. Beautiful place but it's a ****-hole in all other respects.

    Vote Yes to Lisbon, trust our European elite!
    Italy aren't our European elite,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Four-Too wrote: »
    Ahh, that is fecked up.. It's a fecked up world we live in. Our chippers are now being spoilt. Italians are only good at making spaghetti and pastas - it's insanity! Blasphemy! I wouldn;t eat those chips if they were free.
    The horror of it.

    The nicest food come from them IMO. Local chipper makes the tastiest taco chip around (and they give you the most in it too). This chipper has been here about 20 years, owned by the same people from day 1. they must be doing something right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Four-Too


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What are you crappin on about? All the nicest chippers are Italian, and have been for donkey's. Macari's and Romayo's to name just two.

    You call that English?
    Who tha fook is Macari? And I thought Romayo was a footballer. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Four-Too wrote: »
    You call that English?

    Wtf would you call it?
    Who tha fook is Macari? And I thought Romayo was a footballer. :confused:

    You're obviously an amateur on the chipper circuit so. There's more to life than Abra and Supermacs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Four-Too


    dlofnep wrote: »
    The nicest food come from them IMO. they must be doing something right.

    hahaha
    Aw, you speak so well about them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    Four-Too wrote: »
    Ahh, that is fecked up.. It's a fecked up world we live in. Our chippers are now being spoilt. Italians are only good at making spaghetti and pastas - it's insanity! Blasphemy! I wouldn;t eat those chips if they were free.
    The horror of it.

    Chippers only appeared in most parts of Ireland when the Italians started them up. Sounds like somebodies talking out of their arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Four-Too


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Wtf would you call it?



    You're obviously an amateur on the chipper circuit so. There's more to life than Abra and Supermacs.

    I wouldn;t have a name for your language, but I'd definitely call you a piss-talker. Who put the fly in your soup?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    mikemac wrote: »
    Macari is a chain of chippers in Dublin.
    Don't you know most posters assume everyone is in or has knowledge of Dublin? :rolleyes:


    Actually Im almost certain I have seen them in other towns. None near me though which is a shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    dlofnep wrote: »
    But do these gorgeous Italian girls move from such a beautiful country to Ireland (equally also a beautiful country).. to serve chips to drunken Irish slobs who have just fell off their barstool? (not that I'm complaining).
    There is a fantastic chipper in Terenure run by a family of Italians, the word gorgeous wouldn't be high on the list of descriptive features for the female staff though. Any good looking chipper chicks I know of are all east European.
    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What are you crappin on about? All the nicest chippers are Italian, and have been for donkey's. Macari's and Romayo's to name just two.
    Amen to that.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭allabouteve


    dlofnep wrote: »

    Someone, explain. Preferably Italian. !

    *Whistles for GirlInterrupted*


    But she doesn't work in a chip shop. And she's only part Italian. And she's spent almost all her life in Ireland.

    But she LOOKS Italian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    Here we go,Italians have been emigrating here for a very long time they have generations of family here,And when they come they work in family places as they all stay in contact and safer to move to family you may be related to :) Also they may not be Italian at all and just use that as cover story :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Strange, my Italian flatmate and I were recently talking about this. She said her plane back to Ireland was jammers the other day. She also thinks €25,000 is amazing, unbelievable money so yeah, probably economic.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    shqipshume wrote: »
    Here we go,Italians have been emigrating here for a very long time they have generations of family here,And when they come they work in family places as they all stay in contact and safer to move to family you may be related to :)

    Some of the chippers around Dublin are owned by Italians with families back home and they rotate ownership of the shop between themselves. One part of the family may run it for a number of years, make decent money and then head back to the old country, and another part of the family will move to Ireland to replace them.
    shqipshume wrote: »
    Also they may not be Italian at all and just use that as cover story :D

    True, they could be Albanian or something! :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Historically, Italians have a habit of immigrating to the British Isles, particurly Wales. Although it might seem like a trivial thing, I understand some of most famous 'chippers' in Dublin are Italian, and have been around for decades upon decades.

    More importantly, Italy is a political and economic ****hole, and has been for years. Things that we take for granted like the private media and independent, unbiased political insitutions barely exist there. Corruption is endemic. Just ask an Italian about his/her 'country' and see what kind of reply you get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭TripleAce


    Italian myself (not a girl though)....original reason I moved here 8 years ago was simply that I loved the nightlife in Dublin, simple as that :)

    Than as the years went by I had more reasons to stay, but night life in Dublin is as good as it can get!

    Then, somehow I ended up in Limerick 4 years later! :eek::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    But she LOOKS Italian.

    Pics or GTFO

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    Zaph wrote: »
    Some of the chippers around Dublin are owned by Italians with families back home and they rotate ownership of the shop between themselves. One part of the family may run it for a number of years, make decent money and then head back to the old country, and another part of the family will move to Ireland to replace them.



    True, they could be Albanian or something! :eek:

    Yep that's how it goes i have friend she is fourth generation or fifth Italian so is her husband they own chippers in different places all over Dublin.Cousins etc.. have come over and took over a few places.Fricken smart move you gave me ideas :D

    Well a lot of them are or polish or some other nationality :D how does he know does he ask them lol al three of them where they were from :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Dudess wrote: »
    €25,000 is amazing, unbelievable money so yeah, probably economic.

    *Rattles his 78 cent in his pocket*

    *makes sad face*

    :(

    There!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    TripleAce wrote: »
    Then, somehow I ended up in Limerick 4 years later! :eek::confused:

    From Italy to Limerick.

    :eek: Was the correct emoticon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    Orizio wrote: »
    the British Isles

    Dont get this one started again :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭carlop


    A lot come over here to learn english, as america is too far from home, they think London is too expensive and reckon the Irish are sounder than the English:pac: There is also still a misguided view that we're rolling in money, though to be fair the minimum wage here is very generous by Italian standards. I get the impression that this year there's more young Italians than ever before in Dublin.

    A bit OT but its really strange how the majority of chippers are, or at least were, Italian owned. I've been in Italy countless times and there is nothing remotely like a chipper over there, the closest would be kebab shops.


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    They're putting together files on Trap's army for the upcoming qualifiers. The drunken barstoolers in the chipper are a great source for tactical information.

    Drunken irish person:"I'm telling ye, John O shea is our danger man.Sure he scored more goals in the premiership than Shevchenko."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭carlop


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    They're putting together files on Trap's army for the upcoming qualifiers. The drunken barstoolers in the chipper are a great source for tactical information.

    Lol when Trap got the job the Italian press listed Ian Harte as one of our dangermen! Now I know where they got it from, some chipper in Drogheda (or is it dundalk?):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    dlofnep wrote: »
    It sure isn't for our weather
    Actually some people do want to get out of the heat and the sun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Perhaps they want to be accused of stealing all our jobs so that they can retaliate by fitting us all with concrete wellies and dumping us all of Mizen Head. :eek:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    My local italian chipper has the obligatory "daughter of the italian owners" working in it. She is quite good looking BUT she has a huge ronnie.

    But quite worringly, i still would.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭funloving


    Well AFAIK southern Italy has always been a fairly undeveloped area economically, with lots of poverty. And for the last 15 years or so Ireland has been doing very well for itself and has made a name internationally, so maybe they're still going on that.

    you must be joking..poverty? the South is less economically developed than the North but talking about poverty is wrong....

    As far as I'm concerned the only reason that led me to moving to Dublin was my Irish bf
    Unfortunately our govern is so sh1tty and consequently our economy too...but I love my country and I'll be always proud of being a hot Italian chick ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭funloving


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What are you crappin on about? All the nicest chippers are Italian, and have been for donkey's. Macari's and Romayo's to name just two.

    strangely enough we don't have chippers here in Italy :rolleyes: :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    funloving wrote: »
    strangely enough we don't have chippers here in Italy :rolleyes: :eek:
    Feed spuds to the Paddies.

    It's not rocket science.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭funloving


    Feed spuds to the Paddies.

    It's not rocket science.

    I was simply saying what another poster wrote about chippers and Italians...I found it strange that many chippers where run by us....

    it's not rocket science I know..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    funloving wrote: »
    I was simply saying what another poster wrote about chippers and Italians...I found it strange that many chippers where run by us....

    it's not rocket science I know..
    I didn't mean offence. I was just stating the obvious.

    Spaghetti is a staple of the Italian diet and Potatos a staple of the Irish diet.

    Selling spuds to the Irish is a lot easier than selling snow to Eskimos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    OP, which chipper?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭funloving


    I didn't mean offence. I was just stating the obvious.

    Spaghetti is a staple of the Italian diet and Potatos a staple of the Irish diet.

    Selling spuds to the Irish is a lot easier than selling snow to Eskimos.


    What I found strange wasn't the number of chippers but the Nationality of the owners..why Italians and not French,Germans etc...

    I know you didn't mean offence of course...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    funloving wrote: »
    strangely enough we don't have chippers here in Italy :rolleyes: :eek:
    Hahaha,True, i never saw one there,
    Seriously, Italy is the one country i would love to move to, great people, climate, food and wine, esp Amarone. I go there at least twice a year.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    funloving wrote: »
    What I found strange wasn't the number of chippers but the Nationality of the owners..why Italians and not French,Germans etc...

    I know you didn't mean offence of course...
    I'd assume it's a bit like the Irish going abroad and working in construction.

    One person goes, gets a job. They tell their family and friends to come over and all of a sudden you have hundreds of people working in the same industry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    I always thought the Italian chippers here were started by Italians who originated from London / UK. A bit like Indian / Chinese restaurants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    galwayrush wrote: »
    I always thought the Italian chippers here were started by Italians who originated from London / UK. A bit like Indian / Chinese restaurants.
    Don't know about that.


    The local one (Macari's) is run by a man in his 70's and his wife and daughter.
    Their children both have strong Italian accents. Well, they used to. It's more Irish these days. They've been here since the 70's.

    The father still has land in Italy. I spoke to him recently and he had just come back from Italy. He still has very close ties to the place.

    They did quite well out of the chipper business.

    Three in this town along with a pizzeria with attached Italian restaurant and a mediterranian restaurant.
    Edit: They also bought what was an Abrakebabra and changed the name. Still sell the same types of food. Mairt used to be a bouncer there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭carlop


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Hahaha,True, i never saw one there,
    Seriously, Italy is the one country i would love to move to, great people, climate, food and wine, esp Amarone. I go there at least twice a year.:cool:

    It is a great country, my mum's Italian and I lived there last year. However I'd say its nightlife lets it down, there just isn't the same buzz in a city that you get on a night out in Dublin, and clubs can be fairly pretentious. Having said that, Rolling Stone in Milan is probably my favourite nightclub.
    I'd assume it's a bit like the Irish going abroad and working in construction.

    One person goes, gets a job. They tell their family and friends to come over and all of a sudden you have hundreds of people working in the same industry.

    Yeah i'm pretty sure word of mouth spread about the stupid Irish who will eat anything thats cooked in batter. A lot of the families all come from the same area as well, in between Naples and Rome. I remember seeing the owner of the chipper (also a Macari) that was next to my secondary school in Rome airport...very random


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    I know there a load of Italians that do own and work in the chippers, but i've also noticed a lot of them with either Albanian, Romanian or Turkish people working in them. To most Irish people, they would just look Italian. I used to help my uncle when he serviced cash registers and a lot of the work was in chippers. So naturally i got talking to a few employees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭krugerrand


    funloving wrote: »
    you must be joking..poverty? the South is less economically developed than the North but talking about poverty is wrong....

    As far as I'm concerned the only reason that led me to moving to Dublin was my Irish bf
    Unfortunately our govern is so sh1tty and consequently our economy too...but I love my country and I'll be always proud of being a hot Italian chick ;)


    I'd say the main reason young Italians, especially from the South of Italy, are moving to Dublin is due the economic situation in Italy. The economy in Italy is in bad shape.

    Interestingly, here's what some of our leaving certificate students are learning about Italy :):
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=263627


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    My fav one Marsella's in rathcoole hehe shout out :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭funloving


    krugerrand wrote: »
    I'd say the main reason young Italians, especially from the South of Italy, are moving to Dublin is due the economic situation in Italy. The economy in Italy is in bad shape.

    Interestingly, here's what some of our leaving certificate students are learning about Italy :):
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=263627

    Unfortunately my wonderful country is losing many brains who can't find a decent and well paid job there, obliging them to migrate elsewhere...
    In Italy it's easier to find a manual job than one for a graduate...a cousin of mine is teaching in Harvard but in Italy couldn't find anything good for her :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    Well ( in Dublin) there are 4 chippers within walkin distance of me and their names are, Mona Lisa's, Sandro's, Silvio's and Macari's there aint any other chippers around so thats that answered

    Up here in derry though i dont know of any italian places, and the chips here are useless :(


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