Part-time smokers........

4zn76tysfajdxp · 27-12-2008 03:09AM

Q2002 wrote: »

OK Dr Frada are you denying the links between smoking and cancer?

Nope.

Tchaikovsky · 27-12-2008 03:48AM

I usually only smoke when I'm drunk but I've been considering doing it more often to p1ss off Micheal Martin and his do-gooder brethren.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 27-12-2008 03:51AM

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

I usually only smoke when I'm drunk but I've been considering doing it more often to p1ss off Micheal Martin and his do-gooder brethren.

Dude, he hasn't been Minister for Health for well over four years now.

Overheal · 27-12-2008 04:13AM

I've probably smoked just a bit over half a pack of cigarettes in the last 12 months. And 2 cigars. Those were nice. I can see why a chain smoker might become a chain smoker, but I cant get over the awful smell and the awful taste: you have to get me quite full of tasty alcoholic beverages before I find one appealing.

Creamy Goodness · 27-12-2008 04:28AM

i've smoked 2 cigars and about 3 cigarettes in my life.

one cigar at my brother's wedding.
one at the end of semester 1 of final year (surprised i made it that far).

3 cigarettes were in london when someone - who shall remain nameless - didn't have money for smokes and i drunkingly obliged to buy a pack

SAVE_ME.222 · 27-12-2008 06:04AM

I am also 1 of these , I actually have 2 left in a 10-box of marlboro reds. Anyone know when they did away with 10-boxes here? I have smoked 8 cigarettes between then and now anyway, hope the lung cancer doesn't kill me.

MIN2511 · 27-12-2008 10:18AM

Unfortunately smoking causes cancer, but at the end of the day we would all die either by smoking, eating or just pure luck!

BTW, i am sick of all the non smokers acting like people who smoke are aliens. We all have vices in life: alcohol, cigarettes, drugs(including cannabis), food etc

Terry · 27-12-2008 01:46PM

Mack Putrid Reggae wrote: »

I've been doing it for 2-3 years and I'm not fully addicted. What's it to you when we smoke anyhow?

Ah yes. The lesser known partial addiction.

Anyone taking up smoking is a complete ****ing idiot.

Anyone who thinks they won't or can't get addicted is an even bigger fool.

Ask yourself why people still buy them when it's over €8 for a packet.

Fúck it. Go and smoke. More money for the government coffers.

Typed with a cigarette in one hand.

Kinetic^ · 27-12-2008 02:03PM

Q2002 wrote: »

Not a personal attack on you but I have always thought that people who smoke are the most idiotics spastics ever.

fyp!!!

Orange69 · 27-12-2008 02:14PM

Q2002 wrote: »

I have always thought that people who smoke irregularly are the most idiotics spastics ever.

Skwisgaar Skwigelf?

Sam Vimes · 27-12-2008 02:22PM

Sam Lemon Self-denial wrote: »

Yea I do, I enjoy a smoke but I am not addicted. Never have cravens for them etc etc. It's normally assosiated with drinking. Some nights I won't smoke when I drink though.

q2002, not everyone smokes because they have to, some enjoy it... believe it or not.

You know that small bit of enjoyment will probably cost you your life right?

Wertz · 27-12-2008 02:50PM

Was a full timer for about 12 years (30+ a day)...packed it in about 6 yrs back and only smoke now when I drink, which I don't do a lot of either, of late.
Smoke a bit of dope most days which is probably just as damaging as regular smoking, but meh...
+1 for the hatred for people who tap you for fags all night...I've had more than a few heated arguments with those vultures. F*ck off and buy your own.

PeakOutput · 27-12-2008 02:54PM

eh i could of sworn i posted in this thread last night, were my posts deleted?

BTW, i am sick of all the non smokers acting like people who smoke are aliens. We all have vices in life: alcohol, cigarettes, drugs(including cannabis), food etc

most people dont talk regularly about how they have tried to quit the disgusting habit but cant and carry on smoking. thats what is annoying iv smoked and im either genetically geared to not get addicted(the exact opposite is true actually) or its the weakest physical addiction ever. its simple lack of will power that prevents people quit. i do loads of bad **** to myself i just dont bitch about how i cant help it and im a victim which alot of smokers i know do.

you want to give up then dont smoke...ever....just dont do it. if you do then carry on and enjoy it but dont pretend your trying to give up when your not

wylo · 27-12-2008 04:45PM

At the end of the day, Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin, Coke, Alcohol, and Hash. Your naive to think you wont get addicted sooner or later.
People that say "I smoke but I am not addicted" are lying to themselves. What you dont realise is your still getting your fix even if its only weekly,etc. You mightnt realise your addicted but for people that smoke only at the weekends try and stop for a few months and see does it begin to wreck your head.

Im a smoker for 7 or 8 years, only when im drinking but Ill now freely admit Im addicted even though I dont smoke 6 days a week, and even less if I dont go out.

My point is NOBODY here is invincible to the addiction so don't start using all the excuses to yourself like "ahh I don't have an addictive personality" or "Ive strong will power, I don't have to smoke when drinking I just enjoy them". Your lying to yourselves just like I did for years.
A smoker is a smoker at the end of the day so don't try and justify it by adding in words like "social" or "part time". Its all the same.
Their filthy and pointless and probably more dangerous than any dioxins youll find in pigs but theyre too much of a money spinner for the government to leave them go.

PeakOutput · 27-12-2008 05:10PM

wylo wrote: »

At the end of the day, Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin,

in equal quantities it is more physically addictive, you dont however get anywhere near as much nicotine in you from smoking as you would form shooting heroin so its not a like comparison

People that say "I smoke but I am not addicted" are lying to themselves. What you dont realise is your still getting your fix even if its only weekly,etc. You mightnt realise your addicted but for people that smoke only at the weekends try and stop for a few months and see does it begin to wreck your head.

after 24 hours of not smoking there is no physical addiction left its all mental which is why it is simply a lack of willpower that prevents people stopping

My point is NOBODY here is invincible to the addiction so don't start using all the excuses to yourself like "ahh I don't have an addictive personality" or "Ive strong will power, I don't have to smoke when drinking I just enjoy them". Your lying to yourselves just like I did for years.
A smoker is a smoker at the end of the day so don't try and justify it by adding in words like "social" or "part time". Its all the same.
Their filthy and pointless and probably more dangerous than any dioxins youll find in pigs but theyre too much of a money spinner for the government to leave them go.

i do have an addictive personality and have smoked up to ten cigarettes at one time and i never ever had a craving......i was never considered a 'smoker' though

of course smoking is addictive just nowhere near as addictive as people make out i dont think

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 27-12-2008 05:25PM

wylo wrote: »

At the end of the day, Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin, Coke, Alcohol, and Hash. Your naive to think you wont get addicted sooner or later.

I cannot find the link that says heroin is more addictive than nicotine. It is more addictive than alcohol and marajuana is less addictive than caffine . It'sdifficult to compare a legal drug and an illegal drug. Of course people are going to take legal drugs. However take two people put one on heroin and the other on smoking. I guarantee the heroin user will get more addicted and do more to get his fix, will also be more damaging in the same time period.

People that say "I smoke but I am not addicted" are lying to themselves. What you dont realise is your still getting your fix even if its only weekly,etc. You mightnt realise your addicted but for people that smoke only at the weekends try and stop for a few months and see does it begin to wreck your head.

Wrong, I smoke from time to time but I am not addicted. I do not feel the need to smoke but I WANT to. I don't force it into me when I don't want it. I am not addicted.

Im a smoker for 7 or 8 years, only when im drinking but Ill now freely admit Im addicted even though I dont smoke 6 days a week, and even less if I dont go out.

Just because you lack the willpower doesn't mean I do. You are addicted, I am not. Tough

My point is NOBODY here is invincible to the addiction so don't start using all the excuses to yourself like "ahh I don't have an addictive personality" or "Ive strong will power, I don't have to smoke when drinking I just enjoy them". Your lying to yourselves just like I did for years.
A smoker is a smoker at the end of the day so don't try and justify it by adding in words like "social" or "part time". Its all the same.
Their filthy and pointless and probably more dangerous than any dioxins youll find in pigs but theyre too much of a money spinner for the government to leave them go.

Some truth here, nobody is invincible, there are people who are completely addicted, and always will be.

I would think that it would cost more for the government in health costs than they make on tax on cigarettes. I don't know why they are not outright banned...? Bootlegging I would guess.

wylo · 27-12-2008 05:37PM

Sam Lemon Self-denial wrote: »

Wrong, I smoke from time to time but I am not addicted. I do not feel the need to smoke but I WANT to. I don't force it into me when I don't want it. I am not addicted.

Just because you lack the willpower doesn't mean I do. You are addicted, I am not. Tough

give it time, as I said alot of people dont realise theyre addicted. You sound like so many people Ive met. Im not saying youll ever end up smoking all day fully, Im just saying you are a smoker and theres no denying it.
Its all a long run thing, you can go for years and years smoking "cause you enjoy them", but eventually you will have troubles stopping. Dont get me wrong anyone can give em up if they really want to but it just wont be quite as easy as you had figured it would be.

wylo · 27-12-2008 05:39PM

PeakOutput wrote: »

i do have an addictive personality and have smoked up to ten cigarettes at one time and i never ever had a craving......i was never considered a 'smoker' though

For how long have you been smoking, smoking 10 at the one time and that being it is different obviously than smoking on a weekly/monthly basis.

badabinbadaboom · 27-12-2008 05:40PM

Most people start off as social smokers, thats how I started. Im off them now for a good while.

Social smokers IMO or more brainwashed than full time smokers. Social smokers think they are in control(same as I once was) while proper full time smokers know they are addicted.
If your not addicted then why are you smoking? Because your smoking on nights out etc your only sowing the seeds of a severe mental addiction, when I gave up It was the mental addiction that was hardest to overcome.
And if you think you have good will power and all this bull**** then try stay off them forever completely! They are not enjoyable, they taste like crap and you will feel worse in the morning just becasue you wanted something to do with your hands or whatever other reason you give to cover the fact that you are addicted!!
Some smokers smoke 20 a day some only 3-5 and some smokers smoke once a week.

GLaDOS · 27-12-2008 05:42PM

I used to socially smoke, stopped after last halloween, havent had one since. Had no cravings or withdrawal symptoms

badabinbadaboom · 27-12-2008 05:44PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

I used to socially smoke, stopped after last halloween, havent had one since. Had no cravings or withdrawal symptoms

Good, dont ever smoke again.

SAVE_ME.222 · 27-12-2008 05:46PM

wylo wrote: »

give it time, as I said alot of people dont realise theyre addicted. You sound like so many people Ive met. Im not saying youll ever end up smoking all day fully, Im just saying you are a smoker and theres no denying it.
Its all a long run thing, you can go for years and years smoking "cause you enjoy them", but eventually you will have troubles stopping. Dont get me wrong anyone can give em up if they really want to but it just wont be quite as easy as you had figured it would be.

You're talking absolute bollox mate. I've smoked 8 cigarettes between may 2007 and christmas eve this year. I am not addicted, nor will I ever be. I know the health dangers of smoking, I know the price of cigarettes and based on those 2 points I will never become a full-time smoker. You can't come out with blanket statements like "eventually you will have troubles stopping" because it's simply not true.

Edit - been doing this 6 years now.

wylo · 27-12-2008 05:50PM

The very fact that someone can say "I enjoy them" and then claim they are not addicted just goes to show how little they understand about cravings. Social smokers that fully stop are people that never really enjoyed them in the first place and basically got out before it was too late.

wylo · 27-12-2008 05:52PM

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

You're talking absolute bollox mate. I've smoked 8 cigarettes between may 2007 and christmas eve this year. I am not addicted, nor will I ever be. I know the health dangers of smoking, I know the price of cigarettes and based on those 2 points I will never become a full-time smoker. You can't come out with blanket statements like "eventually you will have troubles stopping" because it's simply not true.

Edit - been doing this 6 years now.

stop so!

I never once said someone will become a full time smoker from it.

Sangre · 27-12-2008 05:53PM

monet wrote: »

always buy my own i hate those bummers too with a vengance

Homophobe.

TPD · 27-12-2008 05:54PM

orestes wrote: »

spend every night out bumming smokes off you, bastards the lot of them

We call them butt-sluts.

Edit: Wylo, have you ever smoked a cigarette? Having one while drinking gives a great relaxing feeling. I've probably had a few this year, and will probably have a few next year. I enjoy smoking one the odd time, it is a nice feeling. I won't become addicted though.

wylo · 27-12-2008 06:10PM

TPD wrote: »

We call them butt-sluts.

Edit: Wylo, have you ever smoked a cigarette? Having one while drinking gives a great relaxing feeling. I've probably had a few this year, and will probably have a few next year. I enjoy smoking one the odd time, it is a nice feeling. I won't become addicted though.

yes, for 7 or 8 years Ive been having a few cigarettes while drinking, which is once every week or 2, often even less , maybe once a month. I neither smoke nor think about them outside these times.
The only difference between me and other people arguing with me here is that I can admit that I would find it hard to fully stop forever and ever!!! Whereas the people that just "enjoy" them seem to think that its grand they can just "enjoy" them for the rest of their lives and not think theyre any way addicted.

Darkbloom · 27-12-2008 06:27PM

Nothing more irritating than a self-righteous ex-smoker. Regardless of whether you smoke or not.

I just got back from 16 days in Ukraine and Russia. Funny to see how different the attitude towards cigarettes is. Ads everywhere, you're allowed to smoke everywhere, and pretty much everyone does. Though at €1 for 20 (the most expensive in St Petersburg, much cheaper in Ukraine), it's hardly surprising.

Wertz · 27-12-2008 06:40PM

wylo wrote: »

The only difference between me and other people arguing with me here is that I can admit that I would find it hard to fully stop forever and ever!!!

No, the only difference is that you have a personal perspective on your own habits and are merely transposing those experiences onto everyone else. In other words you're merely generalising and stating subjective opinion as a broad fact. You're not going to win any arguments like that.

There were points in my smoking career when I was addicted, no doubt about it, but addiction is a personal thing and has as much to do with character, genetics, your environment and other diverse factors as it does about the substance you're "addicted" to...personally I had no real problem quitting the smokes; the cravings, what little there were, went away after a few days.
However like others in this thread, I still enjoy a few when I drink, not because I have nothing to do with my hands, not because I enjoy standing out in the cold, not because of any secret cravings but because I LIKE to smoke when I've been drinking, especially spirits.
If all of us part timers were so secretly addicted then why wouldn't we at least have a craving the next morning? I get nothing, no urge for "just the one", no compulsion at all. I'll usually have the remains of a box in my pocket and it'll stay there untouched until the next time I'm having a few...
If that's your definition of addiction then you have a lot to learn...

Davidius · 27-12-2008 07:18PM

Smokers are jokers.

Part-time smokers........

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