They're leaving :/

I wonder if the Nigerians will leave?

Alexandria Broad Rawhide wrote: »

Are you suggesting that people on the dole are unskilled and uneducated? I hope not. There are many people on social welfare that are skilled and educated.

Czesc !!


So I went through all 20few pages of this thread and I'm shocked
It is going to be quite long post so don't read it if u get bored to quickly.

First of all thanks to all of you who wants us to stay here in your country.

I can't understand why some of you have so short memory. Just look at number of Irish people who emigrated to US few decades ago - would it be nice for you to hear that u make no contribution to country while u work very hard ? would it be nice for you to hear, that u live 10 people in one apartment ? I'm pretty sure -not. Did you already forget that your economy was so strong for last few years mostly becouse of US and Uk companies who decided to have here in Ireland their headquaters for all Europe? Headquaters as well for Polish branches of these companies.

What is Ireland producing, manufacturing apart of pork, Guiness and Jameson?

as far as I remember u don't have many irish owned international companies - there are only few like Ryanair.
I don't remember any threads where u were complaining about American immigrants - is it becouse they give u jobs , houses and cars ?

So if u agree with that what I wrote above why you are complaining that we took yer jobs if a lot of companies we work in are not Irish ?

I'll base this post on my own life. - When I arrived to Dublin 4,5 years ago I had 350 euro in my pocket. no job, no place to stay. just week earlier I gor my bachelor degree in IT related discipline. My language was poor, however it was communicative. It took me one day to get job in timber factory. I didn't have money to rent a house or even room for myself. So for the first 2 months I was living in 3 bed house with 8 other people
It wasn't good experience for me, but I survived.

I don't have rich parents like many of you and 350e I got from them was like a small fortune for me and for them. So I can't understand your jokes about 10 people in one place. after 1st year I bought old car (middle 90's ) as at this stage I was earnig about 18-19k per year)during time I spent in timber factory I improved my English, finished fe courses, passed Networking certificate Cisco ccna that costed me 1,5k) and started looking for a first job in IT. I got it in September 2005. with no previous work experience) - in last 3 years, I rented house - I live there only with my wife , changed job 7 times(including second weekend job - 7 days per week) , passed many IT courses ( I spent on courses and exams and book nearly 10k up to date ) and contribute to Irish goverment nearly 1k euros per month + my wife pay about 450 euros of tax every single month.

Why I'm telling all these ? Cos I don't agree with voices that we are useless for Irish Economy.
Thanks to us Irish people started opening new businesses, were promoted to managers positions, started earning more money. We go for holidays with irish companies ( I prefer uk actually as Irish are rip.off.ie ),buy 2nd hand cars - so u Irish can get new ones, go to the cinema, we are learning english and pay a lot of money for courses, etc etc, etc.
If employee gets minimal wage it doesn't mean that he or she doesn't contribute any money to tax office. - it means that boss of this employee had to be promoted and now he or she is paying more money. Also company if it is Irish company leave more money for themselves and it is spent In Ireland.

If so many of you think that without immigrants Economy could grow and grow - why employers are hiring immigrants ?
becouse we are cheap ? - no it is a bullsh**t - Dunnes Tesco employees get the same money doesn't matter if u are Polish or Irish.

We can't speak your language well but we get jobs - strange isn't it ?

Some time ago I applied for a weekend position in Currys- there were 3 positions - there were about 15 people - 3 Polish and 12 Irish - we all 3 were wearing suits (interview) all Irish were dressed in Adidas from feet to head.
you can guess who got job...

We took yer jobs. I hear it very often mostly from people who are on Social welfare and never worked before. ...

Alexandria Broad Rawhide - think why u can't get job ? maybe u are too lazy to get job ? Did u finish any courses? can u speak second language? Did u ever offer to employer - give me job for one day I'll proof u what I'm worth - and if u won't be happy u won't pay me ? - I did it once and I got job.

Some of you wrote that we don't give to Ireland any cultural things or any other.
I personally did - Informed few people from timber factory that Poland is not in Asia and we don't have cyrilic alphabet.....


Another interesting fact for me is that complainers are only people who don't have any educational background, who preferred to go to work to get 00 honda civic rather then finish college.
I met a lot of good Irish specialists thanks to whom I'm on 60k+ salary now, I learnt from them a lot. All my work colleagues were never dissapointed of fact that so many Polish people is living in Ireland.


Am I right saying that only Irish scumbags see problem with immigrants ?
I think that everyone who is jus a little smarter than a scumbag should not have any problem with job if we immigrant still can get it.


Time is changing, life is changing, world is changing as well - you won't get job just becouse u exists. If we can - you my Irish friends can do the same.


I would not be happy if somebody would tell straight to me - go home u are useless for us. I live here, have Irish and Polish friends here, getting mortgage in Ireland, got married in Ireland - I need Ireland and Ireland needs me as well. Thats what I feel.

Please forgive my my English. I'm only an immigrant

teetotaller wrote: »

Czesc !!


So I went through all 20few pages of this thread..............

Fair play to you, you saved me time, as I actually wanted to write a similar post

PS: Our stories are quite similar, however I hope you realise that a lot of Poles never "grow up" and no matter how many years they're here, they won't move any further than "8 in the room and polish vodka at the gaf over the weekend". I think they're the ones mentioned in a few posts above.

Terry wrote: »

So you know what a tracker mortgage is?

Nice one.

why u ask me about this ?
I don't want to choose fixed rates or variable rates of bank that doesn't follow ECB %

Come on guys we can all get along, after all we are only humans after all. I hope you will not judge me on where I come from (kerry) HEHEHE