They're leaving :/

Gran Hermano · 09-12-2008 11:59PM

Nooooooo - dey're takin our poles....

Is this like a national version of an exit poll?

Acacia · 10-12-2008 12:11AM

I think it's sad that they're leaving. I've met some really nice Polish people in the last few years. It was great to see Dublin become a bit more cosmopolitan than it used to be. I'm sure there's a few Poles and other immigrants that will settle here though.

anonymous_joe · 10-12-2008 12:17AM

strongr wrote: »

Sorry? what skills do they have to work in a shop? Loads cant even speak English that good.

Im fairly sure at 17 im capable of working in a shop the same as them and even do it better when it comes to consumer/communication skills.

Nor can you.

A lot of Polish people have come here with skills our country needed. Added to that, they've a tendency to be more hardworking than an Irish kid looking for a parttime job.

PeterLT · 10-12-2008 12:26AM

I can say I definitely stay. That's true, most of non nationals came here just for obvious cause - money. Like the minimun wage i Lithuania is €230 a month, same I reckon is in Poland. Rent, food other stuff is much the same like here (exept smokes and alcohol €2 for Marlboro and €1.5 for a pint of finest beer), so everybody earns four times less than in Eire.

Personaly I luv this country especially irish people. I gona start my course in DIT next september and I'm not considering going back to Lithuania ever. I will try to help to put the economy back on track here. Go raibh maith agut

zonEEE · 10-12-2008 12:32AM

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Nor can you.

A lot of Polish people have come here with skills our country needed. Added to that, they've a tendency to be more hardworking than an Irish kid looking for a parttime job.

Look i really cant be arsed arguing with you anymore, the fact that i have held a job for the last 4 years must mean im a lazy worker?

Leave you with a little vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSMBDQ5XwU

anonymous_joe · 10-12-2008 12:41AM

strongr wrote: »

Look i really cant be arsed arguing with you anymore, the fact that i have held a job for the last 4 years must mean im a lazy worker?

Leave you with a little vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSMBDQ5XwU

One video doesn't prove anything about an entire nationality. I've seen plenty of dodgy Irish plumbers. ^^

You've had a job for 4 years, great for you. Delighted. But I know plenty of people who are lazy. I wouldn't have said it otherwise.

PeterLT · 10-12-2008 12:43AM

Leave you with a little vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSMBDQ5XwU[/quote]

It reminds me when I was in the pub and heard how two men were talking about the bad roads that were freshly build. One of them started to bame poles that they were not skilled enough. Second replied - and who was supervising them? Irish? So it was...

Maybe thats not the case (with plumbing), but you can't show one example and refer it to all

anonymous_joe · 10-12-2008 12:46AM

PeterLT wrote: »

Leave you with a little vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSMBDQ5XwU

It reminds me when I was in the pub and heard how two men were talking about the bad roads that were freshly build. One of them started to bame poles that they were not skilled enough. Second replied - and who was supervising them? Irish? So it was...

Maybe thats not the case (with plumbing), but you can't show one example and refer it to all[/QUOTE]

Our roads have been shít long before anyone other than the Irish were working on them. ^^

People just like to blame those that are different to them. It;s quite tedious really.

PeterLT · 10-12-2008 12:49AM

I'll disagree, maybe roads aren't so good somewhere in west side of Ireland, but in my opinion they are great. Believe me I have seen worse

anonymous_joe · 10-12-2008 12:57AM

PeterLT wrote: »

I'll disagree, maybe roads aren't so good somewhere in west side of Ireland, but in my opinion they are great. Believe me I have seen worse

So have I. ^^

They've improved a lot in the last 10 years or so.

10-12-2008 01:21AM

This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSMBDQ5XwU
has nothing to do with nationality, it's to do with crap plumbing done by a group of chancers!

yer man in the video is blaming Polish "plumbers", chances are they were polish labourers (unskilled) chancing their arm.

Where do you think the phrase "cowboys" came from - it came form people who tried their hands at skills they had no training and knowledge in and made a right royal fuck up of!

10-12-2008 02:22AM

I have this mad vision of a ship full of Poles leaving a dock and then, just as they get out of vision, Cowen cracks open a bottle of bubbly, releases loads of balloons from a net in the sky, ties his tie around his forehead and scream "Shoulda pretended there was a recession 5 years ago!!"

Kintarō Hattori · 10-12-2008 02:23AM

strongr wrote: »

Well for teenagers like myself looking for summer jobs and the like it will be good, it was near impossible to get a summer job last year. Nearly all them type of jobs were taken by the poles.

Hmnn employ a narky teenager or a potentially highly skilled pole.

strongr wrote: »

Sorry? what skills do they have to work in a shop? Loads cant even speak English that good.

Lots of poles and other immigrants (africans in particular) are highly educated but those diplomas/degrees are not recognised here.

ChocolateSauce · 10-12-2008 02:26AM

Poll? Pole?

...Oh god. You deserve serious punishment.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 10-12-2008 03:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

10 per house? do they really shack up that many in a house!

YES

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Hmnn employ a narky teenager or a potentially highly skilled pole.

Lots of poles and other immigrants (africans in particular) are highly educated but those diplomas/degrees are not recognised here.

Who said the teenager was narky? That is a generalisation, a steriotype... PFFT!!! Don't know the facts so don't comment. It is true that the amount of uneducated fuktards that came over here with their educated boyfriends/girlfriends and somehow secured a job in some minimum waged hole. Tescos is a prime example. Go there and find a large workforce of illiterate twats. The basic form of communication is non existant, they are there only to pack shelves, but that is no help to the customer now is it? I will not begrudge anyone a job but in the service industry? Get outta here, will ya? Do not hire someone that cannot deal with a customer because of a language barrier. I worked with a lot of poles and chinese in pizzahut. What a clusterfcuk. The amount of wrong orders and fustrated customers because of the lack of English these people had.

If the qualifications they have are not recognised here, then they are not worth a sh!te... tough.

SAVE_ME.222 · 10-12-2008 05:40AM

F**k them all, good riddance I say.

hussey · 10-12-2008 05:44AM

Deleted User wrote: »

130 landlords without any income!

10 per house? do they really shack up that many in a house!

Sounds like Boston after a J1 summer

flyton5 · 10-12-2008 06:25AM

i hope the polish girl in work doesn't go home....she makes my low paid job(oh the shame) that little bit more bearable....xmas party tonight....time for major charm offensive:

me: "so ur from poland??"
her: "yes"
me: "right so" *sips drink*
her: *looks awkward....downs vodka*

Dudess · 10-12-2008 09:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSMBDQ5XwU
has nothing to do with nationality, it's to do with crap plumbing done by a group of chancers!

No dolanbaker, don't you see? It means ALL Polish people are dodgy!

SAVE_ME.222 wrote:

F**k them all, good riddance I say.

Yeah, "good riddance" to those bastards for not being Irish...

mountainyman · 10-12-2008 09:30AM

flyton5 wrote: »

i hope the polish girl in work doesn't go home....she makes my low paid job(oh the shame) that little bit more bearable....xmas party tonight....time for major charm offensive:

me: "so ur from poland??"
her: "yes"
me: "right so" *sips drink*
her: *looks awkward....downs vodka*

PM Kintaro Hattori for polish chat up lines.

Pighead · 10-12-2008 09:32AM

The Poles are good friends of Ireland now and therefore should be encouraged to stay. We should embrace our Polish brothers and sisters and we should feed, cloth and keep them warm. Then we should feed them some more and a bit more and then some more again.

Then we should put a bit electric fence around them which they will not notice as they are too busy feeding. Then we should humanely exterminate them and thank them one last time before we tuck into them with spuds and mushy peas. Just until this whole pork fiasco blows over anyway.

dr.bollocko · 10-12-2008 10:18AM

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

F**k them all, good riddance I say.

I dont want any more of this ****e. If someone has a reason for hating an entire race of people, at least elaborate FFS!

My mod view is all new and shiny and I still havent pressed a lot of the buttons, so please dont tempt me further until I get the hang of the place.

Kintarō Hattori · 10-12-2008 10:45AM

Alexandria Broad Rawhide wrote: »

Who said the teenager was narky? That is a generalisation, a steriotype... PFFT!!!

And we haven't seen plenty of that on the thread already?

Dudess · 10-12-2008 10:48AM

Well yeah, I think that was his point.

thejuggler · 10-12-2008 11:10AM

I don't think its just the Polish who will be leaving our shores. The Lithuanians,Latvians and people from the other accession countries who came here in search of work and a better life will presumeably move on if there is no work to be had here.

Our building boom is over and spending is falling in these recessionary times. This is going to lead to widespread redundancies in the retail and hospitality sectors in early 2009. Construction, retail and hospitality provided employment for the majority of migrant workers so if these sectors contract then I think its fair to assume that there will be an impact.

My own experiences of migrant workers (don't want to single out the Polish in particular) is that they are hard working and mostly keep to themselves (perhaps due to the language barrier) Most don't plan to settle here forever - it is a long way from home and now that they are free to work in all EU member states they will choose to find work in countries closer to home.

How many will stay? Who knows - it depends on the employment situation here and elsewhere.

10-12-2008 11:25AM

The EE are likely to return home, as conditions in their homelands improve, but non europeans will stay as their homelands will always be desperate!

niceirishfella · 10-12-2008 11:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The EE are likely to return home, as conditions in their homelands improve, but non europeans will stay as their homelands will always be desperate!

+1

and Home, is Home for us all regardless of where we come from.:)

I wish them well and a safe journey back, and to any polish (or anyone else staying) continued success to you and thank you for your previous and ongoing contribution to our industries.

Executive Steve · 10-12-2008 12:02PM

Alexandria Broad Rawhide wrote: »

Personally I am pretty happy that some or most of them are going home... There may be more of a chance for us Irish to get a job. I have no problem with any nationality but I really need a job, and the more non nationals here in Ireland, the less chance I have of getting one. I made a good few friends too, but I got bills to pay and a life to live. I wounder would the Polish and Chinese be as nice to us?

Surely you're not trying to tell me you can't get a job?

There's loads of stuff out there - there's christmas work advertised on every single shop up and down the country; there's ads in every paper from recruitment agents and what not...

I put it to you that you could get a job tomorrow if you didn't sit around in pyjamas all day drinking tae and moaning about people who had the initiative to get up off their backsides and go and make something of themselves even if they had to travel to do it.

Kintarō Hattori · 10-12-2008 12:02PM

niceirishfella wrote: »

+1

and Home, is Home for us all regardless of where we come from.:)

I wish them well and a safe journey back, and to any polish (or anyone else staying) continued success to you and thank you for your previous and ongoing contribution to our industries.

Jesus your username is apt.

Executive Steve · 10-12-2008 12:07PM

Pighead wrote: »

The Poles are good friends of Ireland now and therefore should be encouraged to stay. We should embrace our Polish brothers and sisters and we should feed, cloth and keep them warm. Then we should feed them some more and a bit more and then some more again.

Then we should put a bit electric fence around them which they will not notice as they are too busy feeding. Then we should humanely exterminate them and thank them one last time before we tuck into them with spuds and mushy peas. Just until this whole pork fiasco blows over anyway.

You may have an excellent point! Sure i was reading that the word for "human meat" that the headhunting peoples of Borneo use literally translates as "long pig"...

They're leaving :/

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