Mary Harney is about to attack the head shops.

Wagon · 20-10-2008 01:46PM

geuro wrote: »

I know i'm letting myself in for it here, but all of you idiots calling Harney a 'bitch' or a 'geebag' and making lame jokes about her weight should cop on to yourselves. You're pathetic.

If you feel the need to stand up for the head shops, try to come up with something more convincing than this juvenile rubbish.

Personally i couldn't care less about whether or not the shops are open, i wouldn't be interested in them anyway. In my experience. most of their products tend to result in either a *****ty high or a *****y come down. The staff and customers tend to consist of a load of spaced out losers who spend the day sniggering like morons as they tell each other boring stories about how fuc*ked they got last week. But that's just my opinion.

Point taken and laughed at. If you want to be taken seriously in AH, you have to go with the crowd.

Tourist.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-10-2008 01:48PM

Jumpy wrote: »

Seriously. Can we ban tinfoil hat boy from starting threads?
Let him post in them yes, but all his threads now are just wasteful paranoid noise.

Get a life :rolleyes:

Nick_oliveri · 20-10-2008 01:49PM

Dragan wrote: »

Don't believe everything you hear. No real come up ( okay, a nice warm fuzzy feeling but that is NOT a come up ), jitters, that kind of annoying anxious feeling and a lot of trouble sleeping the night after use.

The second last time i took real ones "before my seizure party" i felt like that only without the warm feeling, jaysus i was the heart and soul of the party that night.

Used to love that warm feeling. Bah

Wagon · 20-10-2008 01:51PM

Dragan wrote: »

Don't believe everything you hear. No real come up ( okay, a nice warm fuzzy feeling but that is NOT a come up ), jitters, that kind of annoying anxious feeling and a lot of trouble sleeping the night after use.

I have tried several of the various types of "party pills" and the above were common for all of them.

When i compare to decent MDMA it's more expensive, worse sides and nothing available ( that i am aware of ) to negate them.

Also, if you hear someone talking about a "skag" as a regular part of their life then that person is a moron and shouldn't be allowed near drugs.

A bit of 5HTP will cure the comedown with no problems.

Of course, this amino acid is illegal for purchase in Ireland. We couldn't have any money gone out of the pockets of the pharma's, especially as 5HTP helps deal with Seasonal Depression and various sleep related problems that you can go into pharmacy and pay good money to have dealt with less effectively.

Did you ever consider that the whole Party Pills thing was a bit of a joke? That people will choose MDMA over the "safe bet" because the safe bet is a bloody nightmare the next day?

Dyr · 20-10-2008 01:51PM

geuro wrote: »

I know i'm letting myself in for it here, but all of you idiots calling Harney a 'bitch' or a 'geebag' and making lame jokes about her weight should cop on to yourselves. You're pathetic.

That sounds like harney talk to me...

AARRRGH · 20-10-2008 01:53PM

Considering one of the famous head shops also sells illegal drugs (e.g. hash) I am not surprised to see this coming.

They took the piss, and now they're in trouble.

Prof.Badass · 20-10-2008 01:53PM

hah! i like the way that suddenly out of nowhere all the druggies descend on ah for a posting frenzy, the threads rack up the posts at tremendous speed and then suddenly they're gone for another few weeks.

where's jc-whatever his name is guy?

projectmayhem · 20-10-2008 01:53PM

Dragan wrote: »

Pretty much.

Also, BZP is largely ****. The pills that contain it are largely ****. In fact, out of everyone i know who does drugs, the worst nights they had, for the most part, involved BZP.

Agree'd. "Real" stuff is much nicer, and allows you to sleep afterwards. BZP is much too intense, gives you a hangover in the middle of the night and stops any chances of you sleeping.

I wouldn't miss the crap at all, but out of principle I think Harney's being an idiot. No one's died from them that I'm aware of. Stick a tax on Belgian chocs and give tax credits to members of gyms...

Jumpy · 20-10-2008 01:56PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Get a life :rolleyes:

Oh come on, you were trying to get the poor innocent Animals and Pets people to believe that foxes were eating their cats because of wheelie bin lids last week.
Its funny occasionally but every forum I go into now you have some sort of scare story posted. It will work better if you keep it to a minimum. People just expect it now.

Dragan · 20-10-2008 02:01PM

Wagon wrote: »

Did you ever consider that the whole Party Pills thing was a bit of a joke? That people will choose MDMA over the "safe bet" because the safe bet is a bloody nightmare the next day?

After my experiments ( simply because i won't dismiss anything without trying it, within reason ) i am absolutely certain that "Party Pills" are a complete joke.

Someone discovered a mild similarity to MDMA and marketed it accordingly. Because it was a legal compound there was nothing that could be done about it.

There are far, far better legal alternatives to MDMA for those who would go looking for them. Ones that won't leave you in tatters the way BZP does.

Personally i don't really like talking to people when they are on BZP any....all the worst stereotypes that i normally associate with speed come out. Twitchy, needing distraction, endless frantic energy but lacking the ability to maintain a solid train of thought to do anything with it.

Annoying, basically.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-10-2008 02:08PM

Jumpy wrote: »

Oh come on, you were trying to get the poor innocent Animals and Pets people to believe that foxes were eating their cats because of wheelie bin lids last week.
Its funny occasionally but every forum I go into now you have some sort of scare story posted. It will work better if you keep it to a minimum. People just expect it now.

I forgot to mention, crows and magpies are also starved over the wheelybin lid issue, Don't leave your child unattended in the back garden, the hungry crows and magpies could peck his eyes out :pac::pac::pac:

Can you tell me what s scary about banning BZP?. I mentioned in my original post that there is a plus and against argument over the issue.

Jumpy · 20-10-2008 02:14PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Can you tell me what s scary about banning BZP?. I mentioned in my original post that there is a plus and against argument over the issue.

Because BZP is the only thing that is preventing the Zombie outbreak. Its a miracle drug that keeps the virus from spreading.
The moment Harney bans it, its going to be an all out brains fest. Or grains for the vegetarian zombies.

anonymous_joe · 20-10-2008 02:19PM

I know Harney's not exactly been great but the Health Service was a disaster long long before she had any involvement.

As for banning legal drugs, it's inevitable. Most countries have a policy of banning all drugs other than alcohol, anything legal's usually a loophole, something they forgot about or often enough never even heard of.

Stabshauptmann · 20-10-2008 02:23PM

vinylmesh wrote: »

is she just baning bzp or is she trying to shut down head shops totally.

there are some good products; kratom, salvia, cactii ect.

"smoke" is nasty ****, someone should find out what's in it.

They're illegal in the States, and tbh for good reason

Dragan · 20-10-2008 02:25PM

anonymous_joe wrote: »

As for banning legal drugs, it's inevitable. Most countries have a policy of banning all drugs other than alcohol, anything legal's usually a loophole, something they forgot about or often enough never even heard of.

Not really, it's just that most countries are more up to date on what is and what isn't a drug. Lots of things can be taken as drugs that were originally intended for other purposes.

Also, you need to ban something based on it's chemical structure. Small alterations can be made that can turn illegal substance A into unclassified, and therefore not illegal, substance B.

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 20-10-2008 02:28PM

Dragan wrote: »

Not really, it's just that most countries are more up to date on what is and what isn't a drug. Lots of things can be taken as drugs that were originally intended for other purposes.

Also, you need to ban something based on it's chemical structure. Small alterations can be made that can turn illegal substance A into unclassified, and therefore not illegal, substance B.

The states have introduced analogue laws to deal with this AFAIK. Basically if it acts like a drug then it is illegal. I'd hate to see things go that way here.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-10-2008 02:29PM

Jumpy wrote: »

Because BZP is the only thing that is preventing the Zombie outbreak. Its a miracle drug that keeps the virus from spreading.
The moment Harney bans it, its going to be an all out brains fest. Or grains for the vegetarian zombies.

As soon as they are banned it will push the drug scene further underground, the demand for Extacy will go up. The illegal trade will gain from the sale of Ecstasy. I am against these drugs but at the same time I could see an opportunity for some regulation rather than a total ban in order to suppress the underground movement and also on a health and safety issue.

If the Government had strict guidelines on party pills, the ingredients etc, people would know exactly what they are buying. The sale could also draw much needed revenue instead of filling the arse pockets of drug dealers around the country.

Either way, all these recreational drugs will soon be banned by the EU, Mary Harney is just trying to beat them to it.

Dragan · 20-10-2008 02:30PM

Sean_K wrote: »

The states have introduced analogue laws to deal with this AFAIK. Basically if it acts like a drug then it is illegal. I'd hate to see things go that way here.

Me'h, the States have a decent history of introducing laws that contradict other laws, breach Constitution or override it as they see fit.

Not something i have seen that much of in Ireland.

smellslikeshoes · 20-10-2008 02:51PM

I hope I wasn't the only one to imagine Harney attacking the head shops with a sword or some other harneyesque weapon.

Borneo Fnctn · 20-10-2008 02:54PM

Dragan wrote: »

Also, if you hear someone talking about a "skag" as a regular part of their life then that person is a moron and shouldn't be allowed near drugs.

Yeah. If only there were laws to keep people off drugs.:rolleyes:

Dragan · 20-10-2008 03:02PM

jackpalance wrote: »

Yeah. If only there were laws to keep people off drugs.:rolleyes:

No, you're right. Better to assume that everyone follows the law, ignore the possibility of people NOT following the law and then make sure to keep any information that might help those people out of the loop.

Such as the fact that skags can be very much avoided, people do drugs and know people who drugs and often choose to assume the person knows what they are doing.

Having someone constantly banging on about skags is a good sign that they don't and mind need a bit of a chat or an ass kicking, depending.

Now then, where is that smiley face gone.......oh yeah.........:rolleyes:

20-10-2008 03:05PM

big deal about nothing I reckon.

The pills are ***** but are fairly harmless unless one overdoes it.

Business for dealers in Ireland should pick up !

AnonoBoy · 20-10-2008 03:05PM

I won't be moaning about BZP being banned anyway.

It's a sh*tty drug.

I think Iggy said it best:

"No fun. No fun. No fun."

Dinter · 20-10-2008 03:12PM

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

I hope I wasn't the only one to imagine Harney attacking the head shops with a sword or some other harneyesque weapon.

Nah swords would take far too much effort.

The only weapons Harney'd be sending against the head shops are Boba Fet and a gang of Gamorreans.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-10-2008 03:13PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I won't be moaning about BZP being banned anyway.

It's a sh*tty drug.

I think Iggy said it best:

"No fun. No fun. No fun."

Its a shi^^y drug and would be considered the ars*e end of the scale as recreational drugs go but at least one dose not have to risk their lives sourcing it.

AnonoBoy · 20-10-2008 03:19PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its a shi^^y drug and would be considered the ars*e end of the scale as recreational drugs go but at least one dose not have to risk their lives sourcing it.

I've never risked my life sourcing anything.

AlmightyCushion · 20-10-2008 03:22PM

"Mary Harney" and "head" in the same sentence.

*shudders*

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-10-2008 03:27PM

phasers wrote: »

image courtesy of RTÉ

Hey! It's Princess Fiona again!!

FOGOFUNK · 20-10-2008 03:30PM

Ban the **** out of BZP.

Ugh God the memories.

Dragan · 20-10-2008 03:30PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its a shi^^y drug and would be considered the ars*e end of the scale as recreational drugs go but at least one dose not have to risk their lives sourcing it.

LoL, and you claim not be a scare mongerer!

Mary Harney is about to attack the head shops.

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