Leashes were made for a reason people!!!

Bob the Builder · 13-10-2008 10:01PM

Back in February 2007, for a whole month, I brought pellet guns cycling with me. Taught the dogs a lesson.

Now, it's easy to tell which dogs i shot, and which dogs are only newer than Feb 2007 as I cycle the road.

Pyr0 · 13-10-2008 10:08PM

Darragh29 wrote: »

Hasn't ever happened me. I do my walking somewhere really remote so I don't have the PC brigade annoying me.

PC brigade annoy the hell out of me. There's this woman who walks in DCU park and insists on walking right through a group of dogs running around and playing, may I add that dogs are allowed off the lead during the last hour of the park being open. Anyway, she walks right through the group of dogs looking for an excuse to give a speech as to why all the dogs should be on leads and muzzled. She's so annoying and tends to mirror a lot of peoples reaction and opinon of my own dog, a Boxer.

Dyr · 13-10-2008 10:35PM

Are you sure dogs are allowed off leads in the last hour? Never saw anything in the park rules about that, it actually says they should be kept on leads at all times.

On another note I avoid walking my dog down that end of the park because all those off lead dogs usually go running over to him.

Pyr0 · 13-10-2008 11:02PM

Bambi wrote: »

Are you sure dogs are allowed off leads in the last hour? Never saw anything in the park rules about that, it actually says they should be kept on leads at all times.

On another note I avoid walking my dog down that end of the park because all those off lead dogs usually go running over to him.

Yeah its grand, does be a group of dogs playing around at the last hour, its an unwritten rule as such.

tony1kenobi · 13-10-2008 11:08PM

chin_grin wrote: »

Aw, I was hoping to read some duuuuuuuurty bondage story......Added to my list of misleading thread titles.......hmph!

What about Tigger? If I read that correctly he brings off his dog with a lead strap on......that's pretty dirty.

robinph · 14-10-2008 12:55AM

Whoever it was that mentioned PC initially didn't know what pollitical correctness is. People complaining about dogs being off their leads has zero to do with that type of thing, it's just people complaining. If your dog was to feel personally insulted by something I say to it then the "PC gone mad" people may have something to talk about, as it is though we are just critisising the owners for being inconsiderate of others.

Pyr0 wrote: »

Yeah its grand, does be a group of dogs playing around at the last hour, its an unwritten rule as such.

So it's not a rule at all then and you are just lucky to get away with it?

SimpleSam06 · 14-10-2008 08:01AM

I'm not sure if its the case in all areas, but in Galway at least all dogs are required to be kept leashed and curbed in public. And you have to clean it up if he leaves a jobby after him.

I'd go jogging in the wee hours of the morning, and you'd be amazed how many people were out with two or three dogs unleashed, of varying sizes - not that it matters, a small set of teeth will make a hole in your leg just as handy as a large set of teeth. I've even been threatened with violence by dog owners I took to task for having their animals come snapping at my heels.

In any case I've taken to reporting them at this stage, and I'm contemplating bringing along a camera to collect pictures of these people.

Toto Wolfcastle · 14-10-2008 08:12AM

Tigger wrote: »

i also hate this crap but in a different way

i have a rottweiller cross and when i brinbg him out i have him muzzeled and on a strap lead. but other people s stupid dogs that are off wandeing around then run up to him an snap makes it less than fun to walk him ijn public areas

couple of weeks ago i pull up to a public forest walk thingy and gett out of the car this idiot is there with a big shepherd this yoke runs over to me and starts sniffing my crotch o i sy " please call yer dog"

yer mans is all "he's fine "

i sez call yer dog away please

again "he's fine"

so i open the boot and let out my dog on his lead and then and only then yefr man calls his dog back

what if (as i believe he thought) i was scared of his dog how is that responsaible ownership

its very common and i believe its getting worse

As someone who is terrified of most dogs, this really annoys me. The 'he's fine' attitude is grand if you're in your own back garden, but why should I have to suffer because you say 'he's fine'.

I usually keep my head down and keep walking, but I remember one day a dog started jumping on me, playfully I suppose. The owner thought it was great fun, and couldn't understand why I was so scared. I would never be rude enough to put someone in a position like that.

Dyr · 14-10-2008 09:27AM

I'm terrified of cars, I cant believe that people drive their cars so close to me, they even have cars on the road when i go out at night, like omgz have they no consideration?

inforfun · 14-10-2008 09:43AM

Darragh29 wrote: »

You can't do anything now but there is a shagging law against it. In a few years time, you won't be able to being your kids out without having them on a lead.

Would that really be such a bad law?

Whispered · 14-10-2008 09:54AM

Darragh29 wrote: »

I have one of these dogs and I only let him off the lead when I'm up in the Dublin Mountains with him, I don't know what it is about him but people are terrified of him! Someone told me once that he is straight out of Hound of the Baskervilles! An absolute gentleman though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIWQs-ARzE4

Darragh, they are beautiful! Do you have any more pics?

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

not that it matters, a small set of teeth will make a hole in your leg just as handy as a large set of teeth.

This is very true, it bugs the hell out of me when people shout about keeping certain dogs on a lead and don't care about the smaller ones.

inforfun wrote: »

Would that really be such a bad law?

Kids on lead, great idea, little feckers here purposefully walk out in front of the cars as you are driving into the estate. Unfortunately, if you hit them, you will probably get into trouble.

Leeby · 14-10-2008 10:11AM

Milky Moo wrote: »

I am not talking about small fluffy ones,I am talking about german sheperds and rotweillers among other huge monsters.

Why do you've a problem with the big dogs and not the small ones? Bit unfair I'd say.

My parents have a boxer who (I presume through bad breeding) has a very short nose and has a lot of difficulty breathing (she'll be going for an operation to help her soon). Anyway, she's a little bigger/more built than you're average boxer, and due to her breathing difficulties she tends to snort very loudly and constantly on walks. And despite the fact that she's very rarely off the lead people make such horrible comments about her. We had her up Joust Wood over the weekend and we were walking along with her on the lead and people would stop, and walk off the path to get around us and give out saying "that thing should be muzzled!" And yet there were little yappy dogs running around, chasing at peoples feet and noone said a thing!

Nehaxak · 14-10-2008 10:51AM

Bring a box of matches with you, if a dog is coming toward you or already at you, take them out and shake the box. Dog's natural reaction is to back off/run away.

Dyr · 14-10-2008 11:17AM

Nehaxak wrote: »

Bring a box of matches with you, if a dog is coming toward you or already at you, take them out and shake the box. Dog's natural reaction is to back off/run away.

lol, who told you that then?

We had her up Joust Wood over the weekend and we were walking along with her on the lead and people would stop, and walk off the path to get around us and give out saying "that thing should be muzzled!" And yet there were little yappy dogs running around, chasing at peoples feet and noone said a thing!

boxers arent on the restricted breeds list so you can cheerfully tell them to fcuk off and mind their own business, I know I would :pac:

SheRa · 14-10-2008 11:52AM

Im quite nervous of dogs and I hate when a dog comes up to me off a lead, no matter how lovely and friendly he is according to the owner.

Darragh29 wrote: »

On your OP though , I feel people have gone far too PC now.

What now? Its nothing to do with PC. Its about being able to walk down the street without being frozen to the spot because some thoughtless person decides that, ah sure my dog is grand off the lead.

Darragh29 wrote: »

People out walking dogs with them off a lead, once they are obedient, are not doing anyone any harm

Mmmm. Well I've seen dog owners with very different understandings of what obedience is, who gets to decide?

Pyr0 wrote: »

Yeah its grand, does be a group of dogs playing around at the last hour, its an unwritten rule as such.

You let a group of dogs run free because you've decided that it is an unwritten rule and yet for some reason you are surprised when people in the park give out about it?

inforfun · 14-10-2008 12:19PM

helena.ryan wrote: »

This is very true, it bugs the hell out of me when people shout about keeping certain dogs on a lead and don't care about the smaller ones.

Because it is easier to score a penalty kick with one of those little feckers than with a dog like in Darraghs link. (great looking dog btw)

The yorkshire terriers and the likes ... i just want to stamp them to pulp whenever they come yapping at my ankles.

Sainttoff · 14-10-2008 12:24PM

I have to laugh, people go on about cleaning up after dogs, but when you mention they should clean up after their cats did something in your flower bed, its a big no no!

Roaming Cats are alot worst than dogs!

Tigger · 14-10-2008 12:34PM

9.—(1) The owner or any other person in charge of a dog shall not permit the dog to be in any place other than—

[GA] ( a ) the premises of the owner, or

[GA] ( b ) the premises of such other person in charge of the dog, or

[GA] ( c ) the premises of any other person, with the consent of that person,

[GA] unless such owner or such other person in charge of the dog accompanies it and keeps it under effectual control

effectual control is not in place if the dog is scaring people

robinph · 14-10-2008 12:37PM

Sainttoff wrote: »

Roaming Cats are alot worst than dogs!

Cats don't chase people and bark at them for no reason.

I hate cats as well, but they are more scared of me so will run away first unlike dogs which will come after you.

Dudess · 14-10-2008 12:42PM

Darragh29 wrote: »

On your OP though , I feel people have gone far too PC now. You can't do anything now but there is a law against it. People out walking dogs with them off a lead, once they are obedient, are not doing anyone any harm. Granted, dogs on the dangerous dogs list need to be muzzled and on a lead but I hate the way this place has gone so PC, you have to constantly watch your back in case you are offending someone now and I don't like living like that...

People seriously need to learn what "political correctness"/"PC" means...
It's become like a buzz phrase which people use to look clever.

I let the dog (she is a lurcher - greyhound/whippet type combination) off the leash in any of the parks I take her to, so she can go for a run. She wouldn't harm a fly though.

Dyr · 14-10-2008 12:48PM

Tigger wrote: »

effectual control is not in place if the dog is scaring people

nope, given that there posters in this thread who've shown how many people have an irrational fear of dogs thats no measure. If the owner is able to control the dog then its under control. If some sap is terrified that a dog is off the lead in the same park its not the owners problem unless the dog gives em reasonable grounds to be afraid.

Malari · 14-10-2008 12:50PM

Dudess wrote: »

I let the dog (she is a lurcher - greyhound/whippet type combination) off the leash in any of the parks I take her to, so she can go for a run. She wouldn't harm a fly though.

OK she may not harm anyone, but I am very nervous of strange dogs and why should my walk in the park be tainted because you don't keep your dog on a lead? The rule is there.

My friend always lets her dog run free. This dog wouldn't hurt anyone either, and I know the dog well so am not scared of her. But she is so friendly she goes right up to people and the reaction in some people is terror. No amount of saying "he won't hurt you" makes sense, because people are still intimidated.

I mean, I can pick up spiders and wave it in your face and say "it won't harm you" but people still don't like it!

Dyr · 14-10-2008 12:50PM

Dudess wrote: »

People seriously need to learn what "political correctness"/"PC" means...
It's become like a buzz phrase which people use to look clever.

I let the dog (she is a lurcher - greyhound/whippet type combination) off the leash in any of the parks I take her to, so she can go for a run. She wouldn't harm a fly though.

believe it or not some parks (like the phoenix) have a specific ban on "whippets" being off lead as its considered training a racing dog :eek:

gar_29 · 14-10-2008 01:44PM

Malari wrote: »

My friend always lets her dog run free. This dog wouldn't hurt anyone either, and I know the dog well so am not scared of her. But she is so friendly she goes right up to people and the reaction in some people is terror. No amount of saying "he won't hurt you" makes sense, because people are still intimidated.

i go running up the dublin mountains, and there's loads of the "ah sure he'll never hurt you" brigade leaving their dogs run around. if any of them come near me, i kick the dog. hard. i don't go out of my way to get into that situation, but i'll be damned if i'm gonna let some mutt disrupt me.

course, it's different for ladies, as i hear that they can attract bears, so never go running with wimmen, i say.

Darragh29 · 14-10-2008 01:52PM

Dudess wrote: »

I let the dog (she is a lurcher - greyhound/whippet type combination) off the leash in any of the parks I take her to, so she can go for a run. She wouldn't harm a fly though.

So do I, my dog is similar to yours and needs to actually run to get exercise. Apparently though that's now illegal from reading the PC brigade on this thread.

gar_29 wrote: »

If any of them come near me, i kick the dog. hard.

I doubt very much that you do, I know what most people's response would be.

SimpleSam06 · 14-10-2008 01:52PM

Bambi wrote: »

If some sap is terrified that a dog is off the lead in the same park its not the owners problem unless the dog gives em reasonable grounds to be afraid.

Its the owners problem if I catch them doing it when I'm out jogging.

gaz wac · 14-10-2008 01:54PM

Im with Gar ^^^

Ive kicked a number of dogs when I have been out running!! I hate dogs and if its not on a lead..it will be kicked !! Of course ive have arguments with the owners but rules are rules and if its chasing me and barking....bang!!

Dyr · 14-10-2008 02:01PM

Actually, theres no law against having most dogs off lead, they merely have to be under effective control, effective control doesnt mean enforcing a 20 foot exculsion around some arsehole.

Anyone ever tried to kick one of mine for being off lead and their running days would be truly over :pac:

Malari · 14-10-2008 02:01PM

Darragh29 wrote: »

So do I, my dog is similar to yours and needs to actually run to get exercise. Apparently though that's now illegal from reading the PC brigade on this thread.

But there should be places where dogs CAN run free and be happy. If there are parks where people are walking and having picnics and playing with kids, it's not the right place for dogs to run around like mad, no matter how harmless they are.

There must be places you can take them that don't have restrictions on leads use? It's nothing to do with "PC brigade" as you say, I don't hate dogs, I don't think it's politically correct to say that dogs should be kept on leads - that's inane, but it's a fact that those are the rules in a lot of parks.

gaz wac · 14-10-2008 02:05PM

Malari wrote: »

But there should be places where dogs CAN run free and be happy. .

There is, its called your back garden or your own private land !!

Leashes were made for a reason people!!!

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