The gripe thread

maglite · 05-10-2008 05:49PM

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

Far better than intelligent people doing intelligent things:D

LOL karl honestly when was the last time you saw an intelligent person being intelligent

Eru · 05-10-2008 06:17PM

maglite wrote: »

LOL karl honestly when was the last time you saw an intelligent person being intelligent

This morning, about 11am in the mirror. I was telling myself how damn intelligent I am

TheNog · 05-10-2008 10:16PM

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

This morning, about 11am in the mirror. I was telling myself how damn intelligent I am

You sure the missus wasnt standing behind you? :pac:

yayamark · 06-10-2008 01:12AM

similar to the disabled bay one

Lad pulls into a disabled bay in front of me at around 7pm.

I go "you cant park there it a disabled bay"

Genius says "I thought i could park there after 6pm"

I go "Do you think disabled people put away their wheelchairs and walk around after 6pm?"

Cue my partner bent over laughing and genius scratching his head and uterrs "Eh No" and turns around to go back to his car.

opti76 · 06-10-2008 05:22AM

while taking a car off a complete scumbag

garda why arent you out catching the real criminals..

me: i tried that but to be honest i was **** at it .. pretty good at seizing cars though

Eru · 06-10-2008 11:27AM

"Your only doing this because Im black"

Responces:

"Why would you say that? Is it because Im white you racist?"

"No, thats only ONE of the reasons"

Disclaimer, I only say this when pointing out how playing the race card is a waste of time. My actions are not based on race or colour before someone goes nuts.

TheNog · 06-10-2008 04:11PM

I had one Nigerian try to pull that one on me when I was S.O. Cheeky bastard said it in front of 2-3 people in the public office. This is how it went:

Him: Tell me where my wife is? (she was in the womans shelter)

Me: No

Him: Why are you treating like this? Is it because I am black and you are a racist? Why won;t you tell me where my wife and children are? (Everyones faces show shock)

Me: No its cos you are a wife beater. (Man leaves the station in shame while people start to laugh)

deadwood · 06-10-2008 04:17PM

TheNog wrote: »

Me: No its cos you are a wife beater. (Man leaves the station in shame while people start to laugh)

....and then after thinking about it for a second "..allegedly, sir.":D

metman · 06-10-2008 08:31PM

Speaking of smart replies, colleague of mine, old sweat area car driver and I put in a stop on a car one morning. The stop went like this:

Simon (Area car driver): Ello Sir, are you in a particular hurry?
Driver: Yes officer, I'm running late for work. I'm a company director.
Simon: Ah I see. Not an excuse to drive like you were driving. Can I see your license?
Driver: This is typical. Have you no murderers or robbers to catch?
Simon (not batting an eyelid, gets on his radio): Control from *callsign*
Control room: *Callsign* go ahead.
Simon: Have we any murders or robberies that need our immediate attention?
Control room: Ummmm that's a negative, over?!
Simon: Yeah, all received ta. Sir as you heard, no we don't have any murderers or robbers to deal with at the minute so I'll deal with you and your driving. Ok?
Driver: ............

Priceless. You just can't teach it.

deadwood · 06-10-2008 10:10PM

"Wouldn't be better off going after real criminals besides doing me for no seat belt/speeding/pissing/after-hours etc.?"

Deadwood reply#4.
"Well if [EMAIL="F@?kwits/gentlemen/ladies"]F@?kwits/gentlemen/ladies[/EMAIL] like you would just wear the seatbelt designed for saving YOUR life. I could spend more time after real criminals.

(This is especially useful for raiding pubs, minor public order offences etc.)

CO19 · 06-10-2008 10:39PM

deadwood wrote: »

" designed for saving YOUR life. I

Why is it forced on people to wear seatbelts ? I mean everyone knows they can save you life and not wearing one is stupid but it should be up to the person to decide whether or not they'll wear it or not as it's their life that's going to be affected in the end,well that's just what I think anyway.

SV · 06-10-2008 10:47PM

CO19 wrote: »

Why is it forced on people to wear seatbelts ? I mean everyone knows they can save you life and not wearing one is stupid but it should be up to the person to decide whether or not they'll wear it or not as it's their life that's going to be affected in the end,well that's just what I think anyway.

If they are on their own in the car then maybe.

But isn't suicide illegal?

deadwood · 06-10-2008 10:57PM

CO19 wrote: »

Why is it forced on people to wear seatbelts ? I mean everyone knows they can save you life and not wearing one is stupid but it should be up to the person to decide whether or not they'll wear it or not as it's their life that's going to be affected in the end,well that's just what I think anyway.

If you have an accident, you are a liability on the state (i.e.taxpayer). No matter how much medical insurance you or your company/medical card pays, it is still provided by the state (that's us again!) to a large degree because you are using up valuable resources. e.g. Gardai, ambulance, fire services, insurance assessors, county council engineers ...and so on and on.

A single vehicle RTA with, e.g., driver only casualty may require physio/hospital treatment for weeks/months/years. Post trauma therapy,
Family may have to give up work - the list goes on.

County Council/HSE may have to provide adaptive housing/transport/care.

The list goes on....and on.....and even on

Yeah., don't bother with a seat belt/speed limit or drink driving enforcement- it's your own own funeral. (At the risk of sounding insensetive, a funeral would be cheaper, I guess.)

CO19 · 06-10-2008 11:02PM

deadwood wrote: »

If you have an accident, you are a liability on the state (i.e.taxpayer). No matter how much medical insurance you or your company/medical card pays, it is still provided by te state (us again) to a large degree because you are using up valuable resources. e.g. Gardai, ambulance, fire services, insurance assessors, county council engineers ...and so on.

A single vehicle RTA ith driver only casualty may require physio/hospital treatment for weeks/months/years.
Family ay have to give up work.
County Council/HSE may have to provide adaptive housing/transport/care.

The list goes on....and on.

Should be up to the person, eh?

Ah now I see thanks

I just couldn't see why but can now

.
Same could be kinda said about smokers though couldn't it ? cause they'll be turning to the state for treatment if they get cancer.

deadwood · 06-10-2008 11:08PM

CO19 wrote: »

Ah now I see thanks I just couldn't see why but can now .
Same could be kinda said about smokers though couldn't it ? cause they'll be turning to the state for treatment if they get cancer.

Now you get it!
It all comes down to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

CO19 · 06-10-2008 11:09PM

deadwood wrote: »

Now you get it!
It all comes down to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

Yea very true

and here was me thinking that the govt actually cared bout us

.......

deadwood · 06-10-2008 11:10PM

CO19 wrote: »

Yea very true and here was me thinking that the govt actually cared bout us .......

So young.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

metman · 06-10-2008 11:11PM

As an aside, CO19, what's behind the choice of username?

CO19 · 06-10-2008 11:11PM

deadwood wrote: »

So young.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yes I am

CO19 · 06-10-2008 11:12PM

metman wrote: »

As an aside, CO19, what's behind the choice of username?

Click my user profile and you'll see

metman · 06-10-2008 11:15PM

Ah the Bill, another gripe of mine.......:D

CO19 · 06-10-2008 11:19PM

metman wrote: »

Ah the Bill, another gripe of mine.......:D

really ? aw no way man it's brilliant been watchin it since I was 5

metman · 06-10-2008 11:30PM

I met Smithy (Sgt Dale Smith) in real life when he was filling up his Porsche at a garage, while I was filling up my response car. Nice guy, but it struck me that pretending to be a policeman pays better than being one and is clearly much sexier.....<trying not to encourage walters here>

Eru · 07-10-2008 12:09AM

ClioV6 wrote: »

If they are on their own in the car then maybe.

But isn't suicide illegal?

I dont care if they kill themselves and no, its not a crime. Was abolished in the 90s.

CO19 wrote: »

Ah now I see thanks I just couldn't see why but can now .
Same could be kinda said about smokers though couldn't it ? cause they'll be turning to the state for treatment if they get cancer.

Hmmmm, well seeing as I pay normal everyday PRSI and also private medical cover I would consider myself entitled to treatment should I get a disease that effects thousands of non-smokers every year (its actually heart disease that gets most smokers BTW)

Then you factor in the 4 euro per pack thats tax multipled by every packet smoked in a lifetime and multiple that by every single smoker over a lifetime. Then divide that large amount of claimed tax by the cost of treating the minority (and yes, it is a minority that actually get cancer or heart disease) and Im thinking the state and tax man is still left with a nice profit from us horrible diseased smokers.

BTW, can I, as a non drinker, bitch about liver disease and the cost of treating alcoholics and heavy drinkers?

Geri Boyle · 07-10-2008 12:29AM

No because a drinker does not cause passive liver disease! As for the seatbelt thing, "they say the one without the seatbelt did the damage". Like passive smoking, your choice should not be detrimental to those around you. Its common sense.

Eru · 07-10-2008 08:59AM

Blue Belle wrote: »

No because a drinker does not cause passive liver disease! As for the seatbelt thing, "they say the one without the seatbelt did the damage". Like passive smoking, your choice should not be detrimental to those around you. Its common sense.

Alcohol does not effect those around the alcoholic? Alcohol doesnt contribute to innocent individuals and society? It has a far greater effect than smoking which is already banned in many many public places (including pubs, the health havens they are)

CO19 · 07-10-2008 09:31AM

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

I dont care if they kill themselves and no, its not a crime. Was abolished in the 90s.

Hmmmm, well seeing as I pay normal everyday PRSI and also private medical cover I would consider myself entitled to treatment should I get a disease that effects thousands of non-smokers every year (its actually heart disease that gets most smokers BTW)

Then you factor in the 4 euro per pack thats tax multipled by every packet smoked in a lifetime and multiple that by every single smoker over a lifetime. Then divide that large amount of claimed tax by the cost of treating the minority (and yes, it is a minority that actually get cancer or heart disease) and Im thinking the state and tax man is still left with a nice profit from us horrible diseased smokers.

BTW, can I, as a non drinker, bitch about liver disease and the cost of treating alcoholics and heavy drinkers?

Very good point

Geri Boyle · 07-10-2008 12:53PM

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

Alcohol does not effect those around the alcoholic? Alcohol doesnt contribute to innocent individuals and society? It has a far greater effect than smoking which is already banned in many many public places (including pubs, the health havens they are)

No, I never said that. The point is, a smoker in a public place has no control over the detrimental effects of second hand smoke, where it goes or who it effects.
I am not a Garda, so I am open to correction but aren't there various laws against a person's alcohol consumption having detrimental effects on other people? For example, drink driving offences, drunk and disorderly offences, consumption of alcohol in a public place, in fact I believe it is actually now illegal to be intoxicated in public. Again open to correction on these. But it doesn't, by default have a direct effect on anyone else. Only if the drinker is an absolute tool.

This is way off topic though, so back to the seatbelt thing. That ad, where the guy is flung around the car smashing into other people's heads? That's why you have to wear a seatbelt. The other ad, with the little blonde girl on the bed where they say she would be turned into a human cannonball in a car accident? That is why you have to belt children in your car.

As a side note, even if you are in the car alone, and somebody hit you when you weren't wearing your seatbelt- that person could be done for manslaughter for an error of judgement, rather than dangerous driving. That's a big difference imo. So back to my original point. Your choices should not have a detrimental effect on anyone else.

pink star · 07-10-2008 12:56PM

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

Alcohol does not effect those around the alcoholic? Alcohol doesnt contribute to innocent individuals and society? It has a far greater effect than smoking which is already banned in many many public places (including pubs, the health havens they are)

I think alcohol does play a huge role in peoples lives. Not only does it affect the person drinking but it affects the people around them as alcoholics are probably the best liers out there, therefore leading to Rehab(which the VHI/Bupa now pay for because it's a recognised disease) councilling etc. Any bad habits...drinking, smoking, drugs, not wearing seatbelts etc always affect someone, somewhere! Is it a topic worth debating over? Everyone has so many different views, we all have bad habits and we are all guilty of something, even if its the smallest thing like going out drinking at the weekend etc!!

Eru · 07-10-2008 04:36PM

pink star wrote: »

I think alcohol does play a huge role in peoples lives. Not only does it affect the person drinking but it affects the people around them as alcoholics are probably the best liers out there, therefore leading to Rehab(which the VHI/Bupa now pay for because it's a recognised disease) councilling etc. Any bad habits...drinking, smoking, drugs, not wearing seatbelts etc always affect someone, somewhere! Is it a topic worth debating over? Everyone has so many different views, we all have bad habits and we are all guilty of something, even if its the smallest thing like going out drinking at the weekend etc!!

Agreed, I just dont believe a person that pays PRSI, tax on the product and private healthcare should be considered less worthy or a lower class patient than someone who is unemployed with no health insurance who doesnt smoke.

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