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For those who think prostitution in Ireland is A-OK...

  • 03-10-2008 07:34PM
    #1
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    or think that there's no human trafficking in Ireland. Sick f*ckers:

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhidaucwojau/rss2/
    A Lithuanian woman was gang-raped, drugged and told she would be sold into prostitution during an ordeal, a court heard today.

    The victim was abducted from a pub in the North and attacked by at least five men during her 24-hour imprisonment.

    Three fellow Lithuanian nationals were sentenced to between eight and 14 years behind bars.

    Mr Justice Ben Stephens told a Crown Court in Belfast: “This was a horrific experience of complete sexual, mental and physical violation.

    “A total degradation of her body and mind, brutal, sordid perversion.”

    The victim, sexually naive, with few connections in a foreign country, had been left vulnerable by an earlier rape when she was persuaded to meet one of her attackers in a bar.

    She was subsequently taken by car to a remote mountainous area, stripped and raped.

    Her captors tried to feed her ecstasy and later took her to a house where more serial attacks happened.

    Cousins Saulius Petraitis (aged 24) Vitalijus Petraitis, and Audrius Sliogeris (aged 23) were all in the dock facing charges including rape, kidnap and unlawful imprisonment.

    Saulius Petraitis and Sliogeris were given 14 years imprisonment and told they would be deported following their release. Vitalijus Petraitis was given eight years and also recommended for deportation.

    All three signed the sex offenders register.

    The judge said an uncharged man, Julius, planned to "induct'' the victim, referred to in court as "TR", into prostitution.

    He added the financial objective of the plan from the point of view of Julius was that once she was inducted she would be sold for €15,000.

    “In essence the aim was to cut her off from her friends, her home and family and the person that she was and to utterly change her life.

    “The purpose of multiple rapes as far as Julius was concerned being to force TR to experience intercourse in one day with a number of men and familiarise TR with the working life of a prostitute,” he said.

    The victim was raped on one occasion after being lured to a “party” but then pursued by her attackers.

    She was later persuaded to meet Julius in a bar, then taken away in his car.

    Once in the vehicle, which Sliogeris and Saulius later got into, the helpless victim was locked inside and rapidly became distraught and hysterical.

    Mr Justice Stephens said the assailants demanded her passport.

    “The inquiry about her passport was particularly sinister. The cumulative effect was that TR (the victim) would despair and fear for her life.”

    He added: “She started to scream, to kick out and to fight, in an attempt to leave the car the windscreen window of the car was cracked by TR, such was the force she was using to kick out.”

    He said she was taken to a deserted mountain track and raped by Julius while Sliogeris and Vitalijus sat on the bonnet of the car awaiting their turn.

    The victim was also forced to perform oral sex, degraded and humiliated, despite weeping and pleading with her attackers to accept a ransom for her release.


    Although the judge said all three men were dangerous, Vitalijus did not participate in the kidnap and the false imprisonment charge did not proceed.


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Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I like sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    hah! that was yore ma!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Who the **** thinks prostitution is "A-OK?"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    How exactly was she 'persuaded' to meet her attacker in a bar?

    She's not the brightest star in the sky is she?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Who the **** thinks prostitution is "A-OK?"

    If legal and regulated strictly i don't see a problem with it.

    Personally i'd like to be able to charge women to have sex with me!:D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    prostitution is fine, slavery is not. There is a difference.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Phlann


    You probably shouldn't have bothered posting this in here. It'll just be treated as another excuse for socially inept virgins to make rape jokes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Didn't happen in my country, OP refers to Belfast.
    Are we to start a thread every time there's a case like this in a foreign country?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Who the **** thinks prostitution is "A-OK?"

    The people of the Netherlands, and the tourists who go to Amsterdam's Red Light District, to name a few.

    There was a debate about this in UCC Monday night, and the Philosoph (the philosophical/debating society) voted that prostitution should be decriminalised.
    I myself voted in favour of it - if it was properly regulated and the women were adequately protected, I'd have no problem with it.
    It would certainly be safer for prostitutes who are victims of violence - they can report crimes without fear of being arrested themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Mordeth wrote: »
    prostitution is fine, slavery is not. There is a difference.

    QFT. The thread title is misleading at best. Actually it's sensationalist bullsh!t.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Didn't happen in my country, OP refers to Belfast.
    Are we to start a thread every time there's a case like this in a foreign country?


    Not only that, but we post about it a few more times over the coming year to make it look like it happens all the time even though it's the same incidence.

    (actually this doesn't happen in AH, but the papers do it all the time).


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Mordeth wrote: »
    prostitution is fine, slavery is not. There is a difference.

    How exactly do you tell the difference when you're looking at a foreign girl who speaks broken English in a hotel room?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭SmileyPaul


    this sorta **** is properly messed up
    I dont see a point to this and i feel it even sicker to pay to have sex with a girl who is clearly in horrible distress
    there just as much monsters as the people who attempted to abduct her in the first place...


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wreck wrote: »
    QFT. The thread title is misleading at best. Actually it's sensationalist bullsh!t.

    have to say I completely agree, the op is dillusional at best.
    I don't believe everything I read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    taconnol wrote: »
    How exactly do you tell the difference when you're looking at a foreign girl who speaks broken English in a hotel room?

    How do you know the foreign girl who speaks broken English changing the sheets in your hotel room isn't a slave? Prostitution and slavery are two different things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    If prostitution was legalised it could be regulated and hopefully people would visit legal licensed brothels with women who want to sell sex instead of visiting brothels with women who have been forced to work in the sex trade.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Phlann wrote: »
    You probably shouldn't have bothered posting this in here. It'll just be treated as another excuse for socially inept virgins to make rape jokes.
    boo hiss boo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭anti-venom


    Wreck wrote: »
    QFT. The thread title is misleading at best. Actually it's sensationalist bullsh!t.

    Couldn't agree more. A well regulated, professionally operated and health conscious prostitution business should have nothing in common with what these lowlife bottom-feeding scumbags do. The op can't seem to differentiate between the two, preferring to paint the lot with the same seedy brush. If consenting adults freely decide to engage in prostitutiton then the only say that society should have, via the state, is that it is well regulated and safe for all concerned, not to make subjective and broad moral judgements on the rights and wrongs of the trade.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    For the record, I am for the legalisation of prostitution. I am not "delusional" and I am not making any moral judgements on the theory of prostitution.

    I am merely highlighting the reality of Ireland's unregulated, illegal prostitution trade.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    taconnol wrote: »
    For the record, I am for the legalisation of prostitution. I am not "delusional" and I am not making any moral judgements on the theory of prostitution.

    I am merely highlighting the reality of Ireland's unregulated, illegal prostitution trade.
    This isn't prostitution, they didn't even pay her. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    taconnol wrote: »
    For the record, I am for the legalisation of prostitution. I am not "delusional" and I am not making any moral judgements on the theory of prostitution.
    Your choice of thread title suggests otherwise.

    I am merely highlighting the reality of Ireland's unregulated, illegal prostitution trade.

    By taking an example from Northern Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    Jay D wrote: »
    have to say I completely agree, the op is dillusional at best.
    I don't believe everything I read.

    how is the op delusional? are you implying that you don't believe this story? if so, why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    Wreck wrote: »
    How do you know the foreign girl who speaks broken English changing the sheets in your hotel room isn't a slave? Prostitution and slavery are two different things.

    don't be ridiculous. that's an appalling analogy if ever i've seen one. sex slavery in western europe is a reality, wake up to that fact.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Your choice of thread title suggests otherwise.

    I intentionally left it ambiguous.
    By taking an example from Northern Ireland?
    Similar incidents have taken place in the Republic and given the effective lack of border between NI and Eire, who's to know she wouldn't have ended up working here?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    taconnol wrote: »
    I intentionally left it ambiguous.

    Similar incidents have taken place in the Republic and given the effective lack of border between NI and Eire, who's to know she wouldn't have ended up working here?
    Because we're currently going through an economic downturn and not many people can afford the nookie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭uglyjohn


    comin over here, taking our jobs..the cheek of her!

    irish prostitutes no1!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    Because we're currently going through an economic downturn and not many people can afford the nookie?

    the sad people who are so desperate as to have to pay for sexual intercourse won't let an economic downturn stop them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    taconnol wrote: »
    or think that there's no human trafficking in Ireland.
    Mr Justice Ben Stephens told a Crown Court in Belfast

    The Mexicans won't like that. :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    hopalong85 wrote: »
    the sad people who are so desperate as to have to pay for sexual intercourse won't let an economic downturn stop them.
    Judgmental much?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    hopalong85 wrote: »
    the sad people who are so desperate as to have to pay for sexual intercourse won't let an economic downturn stop them.

    I wonder if the prozzies demand that they leave a deposit.


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