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Irritating Accents

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭auerillo


    JayeL wrote: »
    It's hardly snobbery to ask that places be pronounced as locals pronounce it: inferring that the locals are wrong is more like snobbery.

    Does that mean you try to remember to pronounce "paris" as "par..eee"?

    I'm not sure its always correct to say that the locals have a monopoly on the correct way to pronounce anything. In any case, different locals will often pronounce names in different ways. If one thinks of Dublin, different sets of locals will pronounce it in a number of different ways, so which set of locals is a foreigner to decide to follow? The lady in Moore street? The lady from Drumcondra? The ORE-TV newsreader?

    In Ireland, we used to all call the french cars "Ren-all-t" Now many say "Ren-au" which is more akin to the French way, although still many say "Ren-all-t". Similarly, we used to say "pew-gete" which many have modified in recent years to "pew-joe", although the french put less emphasis on the "pew" and say more "pa-joe" as if the first syllable is an exhalation of breath. Are we wrong? Are they?

    I think the answer probably lies in the realisation that there is no one correct single way to pronounce a name, and there are many possible ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Singer73


    There can only be one winner(loser) in this debate. i have decided it is Johnnnnyyyy Lyyyyonnnsss-ah. To him, the most important part of his 'report' is the weight of the intonation he can put on his name. Game Over. Johnny Wins. GET OFF THE RADIO!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Irritating Accent = Tom Dunne


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    auerillo wrote: »
    In Ireland, we used to all call the french cars "Ren-all-t" Now many say "Ren-au" which is more akin to the French way, although still many say "Ren-all-t". Similarly, we used to say "pew-gete" which many have modified in recent years to "pew-joe", although the french put less emphasis on the "pew" and say more "pa-joe" as if the first syllable is an exhalation of breath. Are we wrong? Are they?

    The French certainly aren't wrong, as they're French companies!

    Peugeot is pronounced more like "puhh-joe" (hard to type a pronunciation but if you know French, you'll know what I mean by puhh, as in "peu", the french word for "skin").

    I think the answer probably lies in the realisation that there is no one correct single way to pronounce a name, and there are many possible ways.

    Well, my name is Niall. It used to drive me mad (but nowadays it just slightly irks me) when people pronounce it "Neil". It's Niall - as in "Nile". That's the way MY name is pronounced and that's it... it's MY name, so it's up to me, essentially, what the right way to pronounce it is... just as it's up to Peugeot and Renault (who are French) what the correct way of pronouncing it is. I know Niall's that pronounce their own name "Neil", so in their case that's the only correct way of saying THEIR name, despite it being spelt the same way. Sure there are many possible ways of pronouncing it, but all but one of them are wrong, essentially.

    Then again, that doesn't mean we have to say "Pah-ree" and not "Pa-riss" for Paris.

    Damn, now I'm confusing myself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Tony Fenton freaks me out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Never mind 'Pew-Joe' & 'Ren-alt' what about 'Thigh-land' :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    Tony Fenton freaks me out.

    i love tony fenton on my radio


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭auerillo


    Camelot wrote: »
    Never mind 'Pew-Joe' & 'Ren-alt' what about 'Thigh-land' :D

    I know, that one always makes me smile. Presumably the people who say "thigh-land" don't have a "neck-thigh" and are able to say "neck-tie", so why the mis-pronunciation?

    I've always loved that some people complain, in summer, about the midgets in Dublin, when they mean midges. Language is a wonderful thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Stylo


    The French certainly aren't wrong, as they're French companies!

    Peugeot is pronounced more like "puhh-joe" (hard to type a pronunciation but if you know French, you'll know what I mean by puhh, as in "peu", the french word for "skin").


    Bard - 'Peau' is the French for skin and 'Peu' is French for little, as in 'un peu'

    Otherwise you're spot on !!

    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    ah I had a feeling I spelled it wrong! - thanks Stylo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    irish_bob wrote: »
    i love tony fenton on my radio

    Really? for some reason he makes my skin crawl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    Really? for some reason he makes my skin crawl.

    i have that problem with rick o shea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,301 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Does anybody else not stand Today FM's Moichael McMoullen. The Premiership show and also the daily sports updates. It really sounds like a well rehearsed performance. What ever happened to a normal soft neutral accent? Too square for radio?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Only mentioned on every frikken post concerning radio accents.

    You done been too long out on that there road boy, get inside for awhile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,301 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Only mentioned on every frikken post concerning radio accents.

    You done been too long out on that there road boy, get inside for awhile.

    Nice one :)

    Should have read this thread all the way through. Got it on page 7. It is awful isn't it? He must practice that in front of the mirror. Don't go near Today FM if I have control over the radio. Would probably start to smoke and burn up if the dial approached or in between the following 100-102. Can't stand that station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Just caught Tom Dunne previewing his show (on the breakfast show) this morning. He was going to be doing a feature on ........irritating accents!

    Should start with his own


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Don't know where he from,but it's the epitome of the middle class, university "educated " Dublin accent.

    Could get on my wick on certain days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Just caught Tom Dunne previewing his show (on the breakfast show) this morning. He was going to be doing a feature on ........irritating accents!

    Should start with his own


    He said D4 was the worst due to people all around the country now catching the Mycull MocMollen virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Bock the Robber


    auerillo wrote: »
    Part of the joy in life is to listen to different forms of pronouncing words, and think how dull life would be is we all spoke in the same way.

    How true. Wouldn't it be terrible if we all spoke the same way, as they do in RTÉ? They all have the same accent, which seems to have been invented about twelve years ago. Did someone buy a warehouse full of unwanted British and American accents, breed them and sell them to RTÉ?

    Emma McNamara's voice hurts my head. How does somebody from Carlow develop an accent like that? Or, maybe more revealingly, why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    How true. Wouldn't it be terrible if we all spoke the same way, as they do in RTÉ? They all have the same accent, which seems to have been invented about twelve years ago. Did someone buy a warehouse full of unwanted British and American accents, breed them and sell them to RTÉ?

    Emma McNamara's voice hurts my head. How does somebody from Carlow develop an accent like that? Or, maybe more revealingly, why?

    i suspect she didnt develop it , she trained it , an accent like that isnt natural , it requires considerable upkeep and maintainence , never heard an accent with such a haughty tone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Bock the Robber


    I wonder would Emma have the same accent if you stood on her foot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Or slipped a big purple bell up the back:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭barneyeile


    Don't know where he from,but it's the epitome of the middle class, university "educated " Dublin accent.

    Could get on my wick on certain days.
    What's wrong with a educated accent on radio? Would you rather have a Joe Duffy type of exaggerated Dublin accent? I know which one I would rather listen to. There is a lot of inverse snobbery with certain people in that if you speak well you are some sort of fake and not a true blue Dub.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I haven't read any of this thread, just saw the title :o

    Newstalk: Orla Barry.
    I've no idea if she works there anymore but she certainly wrecked my head

    Today FM: Miiiichaael MaaacMulllllen
    Does the football program on Saturday afternoons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭barneyeile


    micmclo wrote: »
    I haven't read any of this thread, just saw the title :o

    Newstalk: Orla Barry.
    I've no idea if she works there anymore but she certainly wrecked my head

    Today FM: Miiiichaael MaaacMulllllen
    Does the football program on Saturday afternoons
    They have shifted her to the weekend, where as he seems to be in love with his own name!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    barneyeile wrote: »
    What's wrong with a educated accent on radio? Would you rather have a Joe Duffy type of exaggerated Dublin accent? I know which one I would rather listen to. There is a lot of inverse snobbery with certain people in that if you speak well you are some sort of fake and not a true blue Dub.


    jaysus I never said there was anything wrong with it!!

    Just said it could get on my wick at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Bock the Robber


    I don't notice much education among the Roadwatch Clones.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Or slipped a big purple bell up the back:eek:

    Well lubed an the cheeks would part no problem..keep her quiet fer a while..........:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    I don't notice much education among the Roadwatch Clones.
    You could get transition year students to do this ffs, why the people doing it think they are all that makes my brain hurt :(

    AA Roadwatch have a lot ot answer for, they are responsible for polluting the airwaves with that clown Louise Heraghty on 98, theres a starter for ten. AWFUL.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    I've always had a suspicion that whoever hires these AA Roadwatch presenters talks like that too. Jeebus, whatever happened to neutral accents?


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