Irritating Accents

juuge

Does anyone else agree that the current batch of regional corresponents on RTE have the most irritating accents known to man.
Plastic sheeting for one is particularly weird in Cork not to mention streerin' Mc Gooley in the midlands.

Dudess

No the most irritating has got to be John Kilraine.

Nightwish

Moicheal McMollon on Today FM is quite possibly the most annoying the most annoying voice on radio. Where oh where did he get that accent from? He's followed closely by Jurry O Sullivan on Newstalk who talks like he's got a mouthful of slurry in his gob.

DMC

I can see a whole Culchie/Jackeen divide on accents here....

But, on the whole, if the report is a good one, the accents don't matter.

grumpytrousers

naw - that twat who does the sports news on 2fm at the weekends has the worst of the lot...waterfOHrd, longfOHrd...

the_syco

Try listening to some of the Dubs. Most, no problem. Some, with a very thick Dub accent are worse than a culchie from Wicklow

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Johnny Lyons for the lose.

The 98fm sports guy.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I find his voice more annoying than that interminable Don Wycherly.

Dudess

DesF wrote: »

I find his voice more annoying than that interminable Don Wycherly.

Oh don't do that to me - the mere thought fills me with more horror than I can take!!

grumpytrousers wrote:

naw - that twat who does the sports news on 2fm at the weekends has the worst of the lot...waterfOHrd, longfOHrd...

But I'd say he's from Louth - that's the way people with Louth accents pronounce those things. Doesn't bother me if the accent isn't put on.

mike65

The RTE man-in-the-midlands-peat-bog chappie is, erm distinct.

Mike.

RadioCity

Treassan McCambridge (?) Today FM traffic and Alison Curtis,

juuge

The guy on newstalk, I think he's the business editor, cannot pronounce 'th's' so 333 is - tree hundred and turty tree - it's really annoying and amazing how many financial stories include the number 3.

mike65

He is appalling, the number trees and turds is shockin! I know its how he's been bought up but some attempt at RP would be nice.

Mike.

eamon234

That boll1x that does the deep voice voiceovers on 2FM - y'know the one :

On digital, online and on 90-92 eeff emm he does all the presenter stings as well excruciatingly annoying I wish someone would give him a Strepsil and tell him to shag off.

FlutterinBantam

Look,accents ,per se, are not too important,but as a serious radio person myself,I find I get extremely irritated by the constant heavily accented stuff and the mispronunciations which have crept into radio.

Standards have slipped and slipped big.

Small things get to you..like Des Cahill constantly refering to Donegal as "Dunnygawl" and saying "fair enuff" instead of fair enough.

That guy Barry O'Neill with his WaterFORD and WexFORD crap also gives me the skitthers as do ALL the "Off the Ball" crowd with their "Fuhball"

There are two geezers on RTE1 with the most revolting Dublin accent I've heard in a coons age Harry bradshaw is one and the other is Mc Hugh or something.

I go apoplectic when I hear them,and have to be held back from tossing the tranny over the wall into the sea.

Firetrap

I don't mind the regional accents, though that Galway guy Kieran Murphy on Off the Ball annoys the hell out of me because of his lisp. That's a speech impediment though, rather than a regional accent.

It's the godawful dort accents that are like nails on a blackboard to me, the worst offenders being Michael McMullin and the woman who does the business news on Radio 1's drivetime. Needless to say, there are some horrors on the AA Roadwatch.

Dudess

RadioCity wrote: »

Treassan McCambridge (?) Today FM traffic and Alison Curtis,

Tressan McCambridge works for AA Roadwatch, whose traffic updates are aired on Today FM via ISDN link-up. Yes, her accent is indeed unbearable. So is Amy Hill's (also of AA Roadwatch and on Today FM).
Alison Curtis is Canadian - it's fair enough if the accent isn't put on.

dubtom

mike65 wrote: »

He is appalling, the number trees and turds is shockin! I know its how he's been bought up but some attempt at RP would be nice.

Mike.

For some very strange reason,unknown to me, english woman have asked me several times to say 33 1/3. They either find it very funny or a turn on,I haven't figured out which yet.
Have to disagree about the buisness news reader on drive time, she sounds like sex on legs to me,perfect suction..I mean diction.

Slicklink

Its not just the accent its the intonation that goes with it. And Michael McMullen on Today Fm is a prime example of over the top accents. Very annoying. Something that makes some people turn off the radio. Not that I have a problem with regional accents, I dont, Paschal Sheehy is a fine broadcaster. And yes Johnny Lyons voice is just too forced & false.

Beth Ann Kilfoyle's accent ? You either love it or hate it ?

No one I know would be allowed near a station in Dublin if they had a Dublin accent (yes I know Ray shah is on q102, but I dont agree with that z celeb thing either)

bmaxi

For years the BBC wouldn't allow broadcasters with regional accents on air because they believed the listeners would consider them less intelligent and poorly educated. Hence the proliferation of clipped tones and public school accents. I think that this perception still holds today, even though the opposite is obvious. Joe Duffy ( love him or hate him ) is an incisive interviewer whereas the likes of Bryan Dobson, without a script, is a plank.

juuge

What really pisses me off is people pronouncing place name usually in Irish e.g. michael murphy, the sometimes newsreader on RTE says 'goon lira' for
Dn Laoghaire I mean who calls it that?

soundbyte

That guy that does the AIB promo on the (I think) sports news on 2fm, sounds like he's liquidising a lump of snot in his mouth.

Who is he, I've heard him do quite a few ads ... sounds like he was in Fair City!

Dudess

Yeah, he kinda sticks his chin out while speaking - infuriating.

Firetrap wrote:

the woman who does the business news on Radio 1's drivetime.

Oh yes, dreadfully snooty accent.

Slicklink wrote:

Beth Ann Kilfoyle's accent ? You either love it or hate it ?

But she's English or Welsh.

FlutterinBantam

Woman who does the RTE business news..is it Emma McNamara.??

She is an excellent speaker enunciates her words well and is always clear and concise.I would much rather listen to her than some "Doob" slurring her words and not pronouncing each vowell,or hs,or ts,or rs...list is endless.

Beth Ann Kilfoyle sounds like a Brummie to me... detest that accent.

DMC

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Beth Ann Kilfoyle sounds like a Brummie to me... detest that accent.

You could imagine her singing Funky Moped, can't you?

Dudess

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Woman who does the RTE business news..is it Emma McNamara.??

She is an excellent speaker enunciates her words well and is always clear and concise.I would much rather listen to her than some "Doob" slurring her words and not pronouncing each vowell,or hs,or ts,or rs...list is endless.

You can be an excellent speaker without putting on a ridiculously snooty accent.

FlutterinBantam

Dudess wrote: »

You can be an excellent speaker without putting on a ridiculously snooty accent.

Ridiculously to whom???

Doesn't sound ridiculous to me.

You see all this stuff eventually worms its way back to perceptions, and predjudices

Brian Kerr was an excellent speaker,but would you say he was putting on a "ridiculously skanger "accent??
I doubt it.

Yet you seem to have no problem in saying Emma is putting on a ridiculous accent?

I have some difficulty in understanding your mindset madam.

dubtom

indeed, leave our emma alone

Liam Byrne

Firetrap wrote: »

I don't mind the regional accents

What's a "regional accent" ???? Is Dublin not in a region - i.e. east ?

Joe Duffy has to be one of the worst "real" accents on national radio, while Tony Fenton has to be one of the worst "fake" ones.

Moikel MakMullen has improved, thankfully.

Let me say, too, that I normally don't like judging presenters by accents or whatever.....someone with an iffy accent but with proper diction, pronunciation, intonation and timing is a LOT better than a "DJ voice" without the above.

But yeah, national stations need to be more careful because even they need listeners to be able to identify with the station.

RadioCity

juuge wrote: »

What really pisses me off is people pronouncing place name usually in Irish e.g. michael murphy, the sometimes newsreader on RTE says 'goon lira' for
Dn Laoghaire I mean who calls it that?

That had me in hysterics!!!
Doesn't Anne Doyle pronounce it a bit like that?

Dudess

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Ridiculously to whom???

Doesn't sound ridiculous to me.

You see all this stuff eventually worms its way back to perceptions, and predjudices

Brian Kerr was an excellent speaker,but would you say he was putting on a "ridiculously skanger "accent??
I doubt it.

Yet you seem to have no problem in saying Emma is putting on a ridiculous accent?

I have some difficulty in understanding your mindset madam.

But Brian Kerr's accent is genuine. Emma's is clearly put on. If not, what region of Ireland is her accent from?

FlutterinBantam

D4 without a doubt.

And its not put on..all the little dumplings from that neck of the woods have that accent ..so there!!

cas91

To be honest I don't think anyone is justified in getting irritated by accents... apart from those who choose to adapt an accentthat they couldn't possible have.. eg. a Dublin person havnig a Kilkenny.. vice versa etc:rolleyes:

Dudess

cas91 wrote:

To be honest I don't think anyone is justified in getting irritated by accents... apart from those who choose to adapt an accentthat they couldn't possible have.. eg. a Dublin person havnig a Kilkenny.. vice versa etc

Exactly - an accent that's put on.

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

D4 without a doubt.

And its not put on..all the little dumplings from that neck of the woods have that accent ..so there!!

I actually don't think it sounds D4 - that wouldn't bother me, since, painful as the D4 accent may be, it generally isn't put on.
It's more "British-y" with its clipped tones and rounded vowels.

Lizzykins

Emma McNamara is the worst followed in no particular order by Fergal Bowers who can't say his "th"s and Moichal McMullen.

FlutterinBantam

Emma mcNamara is not the worst.

Just because the girl speaks properly and enunciates her words clearly, the great unwashed,those who speak in the gutteral tones of the underclasses take umbrage.

I would much prefer to listen to her than some goon with an accent you could cut with a knife, mispronouncing words/driving a coach and four through grammar rules/using that lazy tongued drawl beloved of Dubliners where every word is rolled into one long pipe of unintelligible gibberish.

Dudess

I'll have you know I have a neutral accent (with the odd hint of Corkage but people find that charming )
Emma McNamara - too snooty;

some goon with an accent you could cut with a knife, mispronouncing words/driving a coach and four through grammar rules/using that lazy tongued drawl beloved of Dubliners where every word is rolled into one long pipe of unintelligible gibberish.

- not good either; a neutral accent - juuuust right.

Firetrap

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What's a "regional accent" ???? Is Dublin not in a region - i.e. east ?

Joe Duffy has to be one of the worst "real" accents on national radio, while Tony Fenton has to be one of the worst "fake" ones.

Moikel MakMullen has improved, thankfully.

Let me say, too, that I normally don't like judging presenters by accents or whatever.....someone with an iffy accent but with proper diction, pronunciation, intonation and timing is a LOT better than a "DJ voice" without the above.

But yeah, national stations need to be more careful because even they need listeners to be able to identify with the station.

Regional accent might not be the right phrase but I'd classify Dublin accents as regional as well. I don't mind people having Dublin accents or Cork accents or whatever as long as they're good at their job and I can understand what they're saying. They're also accents that ordinary people have. Joe Duffy's not my personal cup of tea but it is good that someone with an accent like his got to be on radio.

The Emma McNamaras and Moikel Mockmullons of this world have makey uppy accents which serve no purpose other than to attempt to give themselves a social standing that's a notch above the plebs. The same thing applies to youngsters who go to college with Donegal accents and come back at Christmas sounding like they've been attending D4 school.

Wishbone Ash

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Keelan Shanley (spelling?) yet! A trueful awful accent.

....and those AA people who keep pronoucing Dorset Street as DorSETT instead of rhyming with 'corset'. :rolleyes:

Dudess

Yeah, Keelin Shanley, another snooty accent. Miriam O'Callaghan has a dreadfully posh accent too, but it doesn't always irritate me - although sometimes it does.

Scoobydoobydoo

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

D4 without a doubt.

And its not put on..all the little dumplings from that neck of the woods have that accent ..so there!!

I'm not sure I'm convinced of this, since I believe it is a 'new' accent, inspired by American tv. The people in their twenties who speak like this, I don't believe they got this accent from their parents, since I've never, ever heard anyone of an older generation speak with it.
It's awwwwful!

I hate the way Moykel McMullen says his own name!
I can't stand listening to Jerry O'Sullivan or George Hook, to me they both sound like their mouths are full of food.
Paul Collins on Today FM, his accent seems to change like the weather, what's that about?

I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin, but not extreme in any way.
Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

FlutterinBantam

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

I'm not sure I'm convinced of this, since I believe it is a 'new' accent, inspired by American tv. The people in their twenties who speak like this, I don't believe they got this accent from their parents, since I've never, ever heard anyone of an older generation speak with it.
It's awwwwful!



I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin, but not extreme in any way.
Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

You could have something there indeed.However Emma's accent isn't derived from that I would opine,probably more school inspired.

What you refer to would be ,I think this business of calling Cork "COREK"with much emphasis on the "R" whereas the old fashioned way would be "KORK"

The "R" sound is intrinsic to this accenct as in "Can we get the coarr loike".

Miriam O callaghan has in my opinion a real 6 6w ish accent ..dropping the "hs" at the end of words as is "geh" for "get" and falling into the trap most Dubliners fall into not using their tongue and lips properly to enunciate clearly.

Like its too much effort to say "pronounce" instead the "r" is dropped and its "ponounce"

Listen out for it if you don't believe me hint... An taoiseach

Scoobydoobydoo

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

You could have something there indeed.However Emma's accent isn't derived from that I would opine,probably more school inspired.

What you refer to would be ,I think this business of calling Cork "COREK"with much emphasis on the "R" whereas the old fashioned way would be "KORK"

The "R" sound is intrinsic to this accenct as in "Can we get the coarr loike".

Miriam O callaghan has in my opinion a real 6 6w ish accent ..dropping the "hs" at the end of words as is "geh" for "get" and falling into the trap most Dubliners fall into not using their tongue and lips properly to enunciate clearly.

Like its too much effort to say "pronounce" instead the "r" is dropped and its "ponounce"


Listen out for it if you don't believe me hint... An taoiseach

Interesting point, I'll be looking out for this.
Yes, I know what you mean about "Cork", the way people pronounce "Coirk" - what the hell is that??!!! If they think that is speaking well, then they have SO got it orseways!!
In fact, I lived in Cork for a while and came across this accent there also!
Also, I overheard a conversation on the Luas recently, between two girls from Donegal, who were basically D4 heads with a Donegal accent!!! Every second work was, LIKE and OHMYGODDD!! They were beside me and I felt like saying to them "Like, OHMYGOD, do you know how many times you've just like, said LIKE, in the last like, five minutes?!!!"
All I can say is, it's no wonder Ross O'Carroll Kelly is such a bestseller!

juuge

What about Bertie's gubberment!

FlutterinBantam

Conor Hunt the RTE guy who does reports around Dublin usually has ,in my opinion a typical D4 accent,both he and Phillip Boucher-Hayes fall into that category.

FlutterinBantam

juuge wrote: »

What about Bertie's gubberment!

heh heh spot on there.:D:D

You see Government takes a bit of an effort to pronounce properly so fook that,just lump out something near enough.

Shure don't the people understand me!!!

ibh

I'm actually a big fan of Michael McMullan and i don't mind his accent at all.. It's very definitive and unique. My g/f isn't into sport and doesn't really listen to the radio much but loves his voice!! Fcuking weird couple i suppose..

Dudess

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

I can't stand listening to Jerry O'Sullivan or George Hook, to me they both sound like their mouths are full of food.

I don't know Jerry O'Sullivan but I CAN'T listen to Hook. Never have I heard such mumbling and slurring of speech by a presenter - it sounds like he's had a few pints or his false teeth are falling out.

Paul Collins on Today FM, his accent seems to change like the weather, what's that about?

Ah yeah, that's been the subject of discussion for many moons now. You see, Paul is a radio presenter so he's got a real mid-Atlantic radio voice, but he's also a big fan of "de hurlin" and he's from Tipp so whenever he's interviewing anyone from the GAA, out comes the Tipp/West Waterford accent. Unlistenable.

I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin, but not extreme in any way.
Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

Agreed. Note: Matt Cooper is from Cork.

bmaxi

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

....and those AA people who keep pronoucing Dorset Street as DorSETT instead of rhyming with 'corset'. :rolleyes:

When I was growing up in the area it was always pronounced Dorset St, the Dorset St. pronunciation is fairly new. Just one of the vagaries of local language, like Greystones and Greystones.

Liam Byrne

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin......Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

Matt's a Corkman!

The "Dorset St" vs "Dorset St" one is an interesting one; most people pronounce "committee" as "commitee", whereas Cork people pronounce it "commitee"......guess it does vary.....

But the poster who complained about the intrusion of the word "like" in every sentence of late teens/early twenties is spot on......there are few things as irritating in speech! "I was like sooo drunk like last night" :rolleyes: So what exactly were you and when ? If you were "like" drunk, that means you weren't actually drunk and if it was "like" last night, then it wasn't last night..... :mad:

Can these idiots not learn to, like, speak ?

Scoobydoobydoo

Dudess wrote: »

Note: Matt Cooper is from Cork.

I know, that's why I mentioned him.

Scoobydoobydoo

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Matt's a Corkman!

The "Dorset St" vs "Dorset St" one is an interesting one; most people pronounce "committee" as "commitee", whereas Cork people pronounce it "commitee"......guess it does vary.....

But the poster who complained about the intrusion of the word "like" in every sentence of late teens/early twenties is spot on......there are few things as irritating in speech! "I was like sooo drunk like last night" :rolleyes: So what exactly were you and when ? If you were "like" drunk, that means you weren't actually drunk and if it was "like" last night, then it wasn't last night..... :mad:

Can these idiots not learn to, like, speak ?

I know Matt Cooper's from Cork, that's why I mentioned him!

I think it was, like, me, who, like mentioned the word like, because like where I live, like the young folk say it, like twice in every sentence!! Drives me nuts.

I'm fearing for my son at the moment, because he's surrounded by it in school! He often starts telling me a story with...."So, there was this guy right? and like he came to the school? and he was like really tall?" (That's meant to be a sentence)
- To which I say "and was he ACTUALLY really tall or was he LIKE really tall?" and he gets the message.